Definitely not.

I did't like it much in beta but my friends did. So I preordered when it was posted for 35 bucks, in hopes of finding it better while playing with friends. I didn't last 2 weeks...

Originally posted by BullseyeArc1

Originally posted by Charas

I will subscribe if/when they fix chat and the gear manager. TSW is one of the best themeparks ever made imo but these glaring, game breaking bugs are unacceptable.

Great game but for now my sub is cancelled.

Ill sub this winter, I never play much in the summer, but I never saw much bugged questes like people keep saying thier are.   Maybe Im lucky.   

You and me must be lucky then, I stumbled on a total amount of 3 bugged missions since launch, but was easily fixed when I got an invite from someone from a different server, other than that I only got 1 disconnect and that was on the 2nd day of release.

Some players are just having issues with certain missions that can't figure out and don't want to figure out and accuse it of being bugged.

My three bugged missions were: Men in Black Vans, The Black House and Something Wicked. Everything to me went fine.

Originally posted by P4YB4CK

Originally posted by BullseyeArc1

Originally posted by Charas

I will subscribe if/when they fix chat and the gear manager. TSW is one of the best themeparks ever made imo but these glaring, game breaking bugs are unacceptable.

Great game but for now my sub is cancelled.

Ill sub this winter, I never play much in the summer, but I never saw much bugged questes like people keep saying thier are.   Maybe Im lucky.   

You and me must be lucky then, I stumbled on a total amount of 3 bugged missions since launch, but was easily fixed when I got an invite from someone from a different server, other than that I only got 1 disconnect and that was on the 2nd day of release.

Some players are just having issues with certain missions that can't figure out and don't want to figure out and accuse it of being bugged.

My three bugged missions were: Men in Black Vans, The Black House and Something Wicked. Everything to me went fine.

Those were the same for me, but that's 3 too many. I played several releases now where I didn't have even 1 bugged quest the entire game. That's the standard I'm used to. 3 sounds like a small number, but you spend many hours on those 3 quest total only to find you can't complete them. Two of those were fixed in a patch, but The Black House I had to petition and 2-3 hours later they just advanced me to the next tier, so I missed the puzzle part. Another quest, now that I remember, had a bugged spawn I had to report. It was a side mission in Savage Coast. But it's not just the bugged quests, it's those combined with the bugged gear manager, and getting stuck in terrain a lot.

I understand that these problems are insignificant to some, but to me they're irksome. Someone might say, "then don't play a game at release," but to that I say, I've played somewhere around 5 releases now that didn't have any bugged quest or otherwise game breaking bugs.

Originally posted by P4YB4CK

Originally posted by BullseyeArc1

Ill sub this winter, I never play much in the summer, but I never saw much bugged questes like people keep saying thier are.   Maybe Im lucky.   

You and me must be lucky then, I stumbled on a total amount of 3 bugged missions since launch, but was easily fixed when I got an invite from someone from a different server, other than that I only got 1 disconnect and that was on the 2nd day of release.

Some players are just having issues with certain missions that can't figure out and don't want to figure out and accuse it of being bugged.

My three bugged missions were: Men in Black Vans, The Black House and Something Wicked. Everything to me went fine.

Not to say all these are still currently bugged, but just to give you an idea of the my TSW experience:

Kingsmouth

Madame Roget - The Raven: ravens did not appear after the first one, led to repeated failing back to tier 1 while using trial and error to find the trigger points for the next raven flock

Danny Dufrense - Men in Black Vans: the Occult Attractor did not respond correctly when using the appropriate shutdown sequence, fixed in an early patch so I finished it when I came back to Kingsmouth as part of the main story mission

Norma Creed - They Never Stop Coming: the Slow and Dry zombies were not updating the mission when killed, bug was present in beta and made it through to release, fixed in an early patch

Savage Coast

John Wolf - Taking the Purple: killing the ambushers did not update the mission, sometimes the ambushers would not appear, bug was present in beta and carried over into release, waitied 3 hours for GM assistance to complete

The Black House: sometimes carrie's ashes would not appear halting progress on the mission, bug was widely known in beta and made it through to release client, had GM help to complete

Sam Kreig - Life Immitating Art: the Resident Horror golem did not spawn upon entering the junkyard, logging back into the game with this mission still active led to complete color loss and visual distortion of the UI until accepting a new mission, fixed in a patch

Blue Mountain

Joe Madahando - Off the Menu: cutting yourself during tier 3 would not cause Bloodfangs to emerge, mission progress halted, fixed in a later patch

Sasquatch Chief - War of the Totems: trail leading from the spirit tree into Ak'ab territory would not appear, was able to advance because I had prior knowledge of the destination from previously completeing the mission

Scavengers: tier 5 after using the drum the Infected Sasquatch would not summon, fixed in a later patch

Old Joeseph - The Darkness Wars(revisited): mission would sometimes reset after killing final boss for some party members denying completion experience (happened to me once out of four runs)

City of the Sun God

Nefertari the younger - The Halls of Lost Records: during tier 6 one of the defense parts was at ground-level instead of floating above head-level, mission was uncompleteable, fixed in a later patch

The Besieged Farmlands

Cucuvea - Deathless: mission left my character graphically bugged which persisted at the character selection screen for days before changing back to normal, not yet fixed or mentioned in known issues

Shadowy Forest

Milosh - The Draculesti: tier 4 the explosives were not resetting halting mission progress, addressed in a recent patch on testlive

Carpathian Fangs

Rada Nastase - The Castle: repeatable mission but disappears from the NPCafter completing it once, addressed in a recent patch to testlive

Originally posted by Zooce

Originally posted by P4YB4CK

Originally posted by BullseyeArc1

Ill sub this winter, I never play much in the summer, but I never saw much bugged questes like people keep saying thier are.   Maybe Im lucky.   

You and me must be lucky then, I stumbled on a total amount of 3 bugged missions since launch, but was easily fixed when I got an invite from someone from a different server, other than that I only got 1 disconnect and that was on the 2nd day of release.

Some players are just having issues with certain missions that can't figure out and don't want to figure out and accuse it of being bugged.

My three bugged missions were: Men in Black Vans, The Black House and Something Wicked. Everything to me went fine.

Not to say all these are still currently bugged, but just to give you an idea of the my TSW experience:

Kingsmouth

Madame Roget - The Raven: ravens did not appear after the first one, led to repeated failing back to tier 1 while using trial and error to find the trigger points for the next raven flock

Danny Dufrense - Men in Black Vans: the Occult Attractor did not respond correctly when using the appropriate shutdown sequence, fixed in an early patch so I finished it when I came back to Kingsmouth as part of the main story mission

Norma Creed - They Never Stop Coming: the Slow and Dry zombies were not updating the mission when killed, bug was present in beta and made it through to release, fixed in an early patch

Savage Coast

John Wolf - Taking the Purple: killing the ambushers did not update the mission, sometimes the ambushers would not appear, bug was present in beta and carried over into release, waitied 3 hours for GM assistance to complete

The Black House: sometimes carrie's ashes would not appear halting progress on the mission, bug was widely known in beta and made it through to release client, had GM help to complete

Sam Kreig - Life Immitating Art: the Resident Horror golem did not spawn upon entering the junkyard, logging back into the game with this mission still active led to complete color loss and visual distortion of the UI until accepting a new mission, fixed in a patch

Blue Mountain

Joe Madahando - Off the Menu: cutting yourself during tier 3 would not cause Bloodfangs to emerge, mission progress halted, fixed in a later patch

Sasquatch Chief - War of the Totems: trail leading from the spirit tree into Ak'ab territory would not appear, was able to advance because I had prior knowledge of the destination from previously completeing the mission

Scavengers: tier 5 after using the drum the Infected Sasquatch would not summon, fixed in a later patch

Old Joeseph - The Darkness Wars(revisited): mission would sometimes reset after killing final boss for some party members denying completion experience (happened to me once out of four runs)

City of the Sun God

Nefertari the younger - The Halls of Lost Records: during tier 6 one of the defense parts was at ground-level instead of floating above head-level, mission was uncompleteable, fixed in a later patch

The Besieged Farmlands

Cucuvea - Deathless: mission left my character graphically bugged which persisted at the character selection screen for days before changing back to normal, not yet fixed or mentioned in known issues

 

Shadowy Forest

Milosh - The Draculesti: tier 4 the explosives were not resetting halting mission progress, addressed in a recent patch on testlive

Carpathian Fangs

Rada Nastase - The Castle: repeatable mission but disappears from the NPCafter completing it once, addressed in a recent patch to testlive

Not that I'm discounting your issues but can't say I ran into most of your problems. City of the Sun God was by far the worst zone for bugged quests. Others had their issues but most have been fixed. I'm actually surprised CoSG isn't your main focal point.

Only prevalent issue I am aware of there is still an issue with the respawn on the ashes for Black House

Besides the still occurring inexcusable fuckups being the chat channel issues and gear management

Here for the long haul.I'll play some GW2 when it come's out but pretty casually as this is where I'll mainly be.I see many people using GW2 as a reason to not sub to different game's.Once that game hit's I imagine many will resub to other games within a month.Happen's every time a new overhyped game come's out.A month in and reality sit's in.

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Originally posted by Zooce

Originally posted by P4YB4CK

Originally posted by BullseyeArc1

Ill sub this winter, I never play much in the summer, but I never saw much bugged questes like people keep saying thier are.   Maybe Im lucky.   

You and me must be lucky then, I stumbled on a total amount of 3 bugged missions since launch, but was easily fixed when I got an invite from someone from a different server, other than that I only got 1 disconnect and that was on the 2nd day of release.

Some players are just having issues with certain missions that can't figure out and don't want to figure out and accuse it of being bugged.

My three bugged missions were: Men in Black Vans, The Black House and Something Wicked. Everything to me went fine.

Not to say all these are still currently bugged, but just to give you an idea of the my TSW experience:

Kingsmouth

Madame Roget - The Raven: ravens did not appear after the first one, led to repeated failing back to tier 1 while using trial and error to find the trigger points for the next raven flock

Danny Dufrense - Men in Black Vans: the Occult Attractor did not respond correctly when using the appropriate shutdown sequence, fixed in an early patch so I finished it when I came back to Kingsmouth as part of the main story mission

Norma Creed - They Never Stop Coming: the Slow and Dry zombies were not updating the mission when killed, bug was present in beta and made it through to release, fixed in an early patch

Savage Coast

John Wolf - Taking the Purple: killing the ambushers did not update the mission, sometimes the ambushers would not appear, bug was present in beta and carried over into release, waitied 3 hours for GM assistance to complete

The Black House: sometimes carrie's ashes would not appear halting progress on the mission, bug was widely known in beta and made it through to release client, had GM help to complete

Sam Kreig - Life Immitating Art: the Resident Horror golem did not spawn upon entering the junkyard, logging back into the game with this mission still active led to complete color loss and visual distortion of the UI until accepting a new mission, fixed in a patch

Blue Mountain

Joe Madahando - Off the Menu: cutting yourself during tier 3 would not cause Bloodfangs to emerge, mission progress halted, fixed in a later patch

Sasquatch Chief - War of the Totems: trail leading from the spirit tree into Ak'ab territory would not appear, was able to advance because I had prior knowledge of the destination from previously completeing the mission

Scavengers: tier 5 after using the drum the Infected Sasquatch would not summon, fixed in a later patch

Old Joeseph - The Darkness Wars(revisited): mission would sometimes reset after killing final boss for some party members denying completion experience (happened to me once out of four runs)

City of the Sun God

Nefertari the younger - The Halls of Lost Records: during tier 6 one of the defense parts was at ground-level instead of floating above head-level, mission was uncompleteable, fixed in a later patch

The Besieged Farmlands

Cucuvea - Deathless: mission left my character graphically bugged which persisted at the character selection screen for days before changing back to normal, not yet fixed or mentioned in known issues

 

Shadowy Forest

Milosh - The Draculesti: tier 4 the explosives were not resetting halting mission progress, addressed in a recent patch on testlive

Carpathian Fangs

Rada Nastase - The Castle: repeatable mission but disappears from the NPCafter completing it once, addressed in a recent patch to testlive

Not that I'm discounting your issues but can't say I ran into most of your problems. City of the Sun God was by far the worst zone for bugged quests. Others had their issues but most have been fixed. I'm actually surprised CoSG isn't your main focal point.

Only prevalent issue I am aware of there is still an issue with the respawn on the ashes for Black House

Besides the still occurring inexcusable fuckups being the chat channel issues and gear management

 

 

They aren't his problems.. they are funcom's... and they are listed in patch notes, which means they aren't isolated to him.  Add Exit Strategy not being able to be finished prior to last patch and the final part of Legion in Egypt 1 being unable to be completed.

Of course I will. Im more concerned whether or not to buy GW2 for PvP

Two weeks ago I would of said yes.

As of this week, aint no way in hell.  I will stay subbed untill the 28th of August but after that, this game goes the way of the Tortanic.  In a word its got the same exact endgame as any other WoW/Rift/SWTOR clone.  Horizontal Progression is jsut an absured way to do endgame, it creates elitist pricks, fosters cliques, creates have's and have not's and is jsut plain idiotic.

Originally posted by Zylaxx

In a word its got the same exact endgame as any other WoW/Rift/SWTOR clone. 

Dont forget GW2 too

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Originally posted by Zylaxx

In a word its got the same exact endgame as any other WoW/Rift/SWTOR clone. 

Dont forget GW2 too

GW2 does not.  It is a horizontal Progression endgame and to top it off, hundreds or thousands of hours of fun can be attained in a non-group style.  Farming DE's, doing WvW, and completing world boss kills can all be accomplished without ever having to wait around.

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Originally posted by Zylaxx

In a word its got the same exact endgame as any other WoW/Rift/SWTOR clone. 

Dont forget GW2 too

GW2 does not.  It is a horizontal Progression endgame and to top it off, hundreds or thousands of hours of fun can be attained in a non-group style.  Farming DE's, doing WvW, and completing world boss kills can all be accomplished without ever having to wait around.

Wait.. GW2 has a horizontal progression endgame?  When did they add that?

Last time I looked you hit 80 and have all your Weapon Skills, Slot Skills, Trait points, Elite abilities, etc.  Where is the horizontal progression?

Not waiting around for DEs?  I'm confused.. so you're going to just wander around to DEs (that you've already done because you can't get enough XP in one area to advance to the next without grinding them the first time) and then not have to wait for a DE you haven't done before?

DEs aren't random.  They're scripted events that happen in a specific order.  I've tested it and you can predict 100% the next dynamic event that's going to happen in a town.. at least the first 30 levels I saw of the game.  Unless you fail.. then you have to wait 5-10 mins for the entire scenario to reset back to the beginning.

No waiting in WvWvW?  When I tried to test it last weekend I was waiting for over 30 minutes in the queue before I logged out.

The story dungeons people mention are group content so I don't see solo-style there...?

Are you saying that grinding out cosmetic Legendary gear at level 80 is horizontal progression that is going to keep people interested... compared to the horizontal progression in TSW?

Originally posted by Dakirn

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Originally posted by Zylaxx

In a word its got the same exact endgame as any other WoW/Rift/SWTOR clone. 

Dont forget GW2 too

GW2 does not.  It is a horizontal Progression endgame and to top it off, hundreds or thousands of hours of fun can be attained in a non-group style.  Farming DE's, doing WvW, and completing world boss kills can all be accomplished without ever having to wait around.

Wait.. GW2 has a horizontal progression endgame?  When did they add that?

 

Last time I looked you hit 80 and have all your Weapon Skills, Slot Skills, Trait points, Elite abilities, etc.  Where is the horizontal progression?

 

Not waiting around for DEs?  I'm confused.. so you're going to just wander around to DEs (that you've already done because you can't get enough XP in one area to advance to the next without grinding them the first time) and then not have to wait for a DE you haven't done before?

 

DEs aren't random.  They're scripted events that happen in a specific order.  I've tested it and you can predict 100% the next dynamic event that's going to happen in a town.. at least the first 30 levels I saw of the game.  Unless you fail.. then you have to wait 5-10 mins for the entire scenario to reset back to the beginning.

 

No waiting in WvWvW?  When I tried to test it last weekend I was waiting for over 30 minutes in the queue before I logged out.

 

The story dungeons people mention are group content so I don't see solo-style there...?

 

Are you saying that grinding out cosmetic Legendary gear at level 80 is horizontal progression that is going to keep people interested... compared to the horizontal progression in TSW?

Sorry to burst your bubble but GW2 is a Horizontal Progression game.

http://taugrim.com/2012/04/19/why-games-should-scale-horizontally-instead-of-vertically/

TSW is Vertical Progression. [mod edit]

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Two weeks ago I would of said yes.

 

As of this week, aint no way in hell.  I will stay subbed untill the 28th of August but after that, this game goes the way of the Tortanic.  In a word its got the same exact endgame as any other WoW/Rift/SWTOR clone.  Horizontal Progression is jsut an absured way to do endgame, it creates elitist pricks, fosters cliques, creates have's and have not's and is jsut plain idiotic.

 

 

LFMAO that was fast.

What happened? 

2 weeks ago you where defending this game like if it was the holy grail of the genre, now it's crap? The honeymoooooooooooon phase strikes again!

Let's hope GW2 lasts you a bit longer, it would be sad to see you bash the game in 2 months when you get bored of doing the same dungeons over an over again for a different dye color, lol.

I would've subscribed to it.

But I had a $120 cell phone bill and that was all the extra cash I had this month.

Originally posted by Whyhate

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Two weeks ago I would of said yes.

 

As of this week, aint no way in hell.  I will stay subbed untill the 28th of August but after that, this game goes the way of the Tortanic.  In a word its got the same exact endgame as any other WoW/Rift/SWTOR clone.  Horizontal Progression is jsut an absured way to do endgame, it creates elitist pricks, fosters cliques, creates have's and have not's and is jsut plain idiotic.

 

 

LFMAO that was fast.

What happened? 

2 weeks ago you where defending this game like if it was the holy grail of the genre, now it's crap? The honeymoooooooooooon phase strikes again!

Let's hope GW2 lasts you a bit longer, it would be sad to see you bash the game in 2 months when you get bored of doing the same dungeons over an over again for a different dye color, lol.

Don't worry, I expect the GW2 bashing will reach epic proportions after about 4-6 weeks. There's waaay too many people that are depending on that game to be "everything they ever wanted in an MMO". These people are all dreaming happy dreams of how the game WILL be. How the game actually is never matches that fantasy.

Yep bought a lifetime sub last week so going to jump between gw2 and tsw.

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Originally posted by mindw0rk

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Originally posted by Zylaxx In a word its got the same exact endgame as any other WoW/Rift/SWTOR clone. 

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Dont forget GW2 too

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But that would not be accurate, only inflammatory.

Will be staying at least one more month, wait and see what they do with the content update. Still really enjoying the game so might as well stick around for a while.

Probably stick around until PS2 launches, then i'll have to see how much time i have to play TSW which will pretty much decide if i keep my sub going.

GW2 can come and go for all i care, a handy syphon for all the internet asshats.

I bought lifetime 4 days ago. :) I find this game definately worth it, I spent nearly 3 years in Aion paying for game which didn't compell me like TSW did - and I knew Aion wasn't my game in Nov 2009. Why the hell TSW would be worse than Aion? :D