Originally posted by Svarcanum
I never got far enough in tera to completely avoid all dmg. My warrior's dodge CD was way to long to avoid all melee swings. But I'm open to the fact that things change later on, of course

The CD doesn't change.

Originally posted by Svarcanum
I never got far enough in tera to completely avoid all dmg. My warrior's dodge CD was way to long to avoid all melee swings. But I'm open to the fact that things change later on, of course

You cant avoid all attacks on normal mob's no, in a way BAMs are easy cause theyre slow and once you got their attacks memorized you never get hit, but if you are solo'ing its hard because you need to watch closely for quite awhile without losing ur attention span while fighting cause that one screw up where you blinked and opened ur eyes to a body slam could kill you.

Edit: basically the cd is short enough for BAMs but not normal monsters.

After using GW2s combat system in 3 BWEs and closed testing it ruined me from playing any game in which i am rooted when casting or striking an opponent in either PvE or PvP..

Swapping weapons in combat is a big part of this system and can make it hard for the other guy to know exactly what you are going to throw at him..

I love it..

Originally posted by Odinthedark1

it was better than ur average mmo

is this pure fanboyism

Am i missing something?

Ye you are missing some common sense and logic.

Originally posted by Requiamer

Originally posted by Odinthedark1

it was better than ur average mmo

is this pure fanboyism

Am i missing something?

Ye you are missing some common sense and logic.

From someone who cant even type "yes" way to gut the paragraph to make people see it the way you want them (or even yourself) to see it.

Originally posted by Betaguy

Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

Originally posted by Betaguy

What level did you get to? Were you max level with all the skills? You probably used every skill at lvl 5 or 10 or even 20... considering you might have had 5-10 lol...

Level 30 you unlock your elite and that is the last one.

On the other hand, you can go sPvP and you have all of them unlicked.

Yeah still kind of low level....

So your point is that GW2 sucks because it has few skills at low levels...

I see, i don't remember having that many skills in WoW at lol levels, but maybe your wow toon starts with 5 action bars full with skills...

Originally posted by Odinthedark1

Originally posted by Requiamer

Originally posted by Odinthedark1

it was better than ur average mmo

is this pure fanboyism

Am i missing something?

Ye you are missing some common sense and logic.

From someone who cant even type "yes" way to gut the paragraph to make people see it the way you want them (or even yourself) to see it.

You ask a question, i awsered it my own way. It is not fanboyism, people just like their new mmo to have better combat than the last they played which was rarely the case in mmo history, i hope it's clearer to you now. And no i don't know how to ype perfectly i'm not a machine, neither you are it seam...

some people complain about few skills in GW2 but i want to know ,people who are happy with 40-60 skills , do you use them all in a fight that last less than 1 min ? ( pve fight)

even in pvp i doubt all your 40-60 skills/spells  are useful

Originally posted by gurunade

Originally posted by grapevine

It actually quite a basic combat system, but that's not a bad thing.   It means it doesn't distract from actually playing the game, which allows for more movement, which leads to a sence of more control over one's character.

 

Agreed.

And what little skills you have on your bar you should always be using. it's not cluttered up with 30 skills with 20 of them being situational.

keep in mind that i have tried some mega builds with a 33 skill Necro build and a 39 Skill elementalist build or my 32 skills Guardian build.  Having only 10 buttons doesn´t mean that there are only 10 active skills.

Originally posted by Tonin109

some people complain about few skills in GW2 but i want to know ,people who are happy with 40-60 skills , do you use them all in a fight that last less than 1 min ? ( pve fight)

even in pvp i doubt all your 40-60 skills/spells  are useful

you might actually lose that bet, first off the numbers are way exaggerated...secondly it would depend on the Class, Player, and the build but it is very possible....i remember how crazy my destruction / demonology warlock used to be lol...you have to use all skills or your dps would be crap. Even in tera or rift when i played them.

Edit: As it goes, if you're not using them all you're doing it wrong!

Originally posted by Odinthedark1

Originally posted by Tonin109

some people complain about few skills in GW2 but i want to know ,people who are happy with 40-60 skills , do you use them all in a fight that last less than 1 min ? ( pve fight)

even in pvp i doubt all your 40-60 skills/spells  are useful

you might actually lose that bet, first off the numbers are way exaggerated...secondly it would depend on the Class, Player, and the build but it is very possible....i remember how crazy my destruction / demonology warlock used to be lol...you have to use all skills or your dps would be crap. Even in tera or rift when i played them.

Edit: As it goes, if you're not using them all you're doing it wrong!

I am so glad that good gameplay in GW2 has nothing to do with having the highest DPS

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

I am so glad that good gameplay in GW2 has nothing to do with having the highest DPS

There's no real way to measure it anyway since UI addons are neither supported nor authorized.

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

I am so glad that good gameplay in GW2 has nothing to do with having the highest DPS

There's no real way to measure it anyway since UI addons are neither supported nor authorized.

Thats not the point, the game is all about using the right skills with the right timing. And not rotating them to get better DPS. 

Rooted attacks I dislike because it's easy to be kitted, no lie lol.

It's actually easier for melee to avoid being kitted in GW 2, that's just the way it is.

This is only one thing I'm getting at. One more thing I'll throw in there is the simple fact all classes can do both range and melee it actually adds to the combat, just that simple thing right tthere.

I could give pplenty of reasons but I'll just give two.

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Originally posted by Odinthedark1

Originally posted by Tonin109

some people complain about few skills in GW2 but i want to know ,people who are happy with 40-60 skills , do you use them all in a fight that last less than 1 min ? ( pve fight)

even in pvp i doubt all your 40-60 skills/spells  are useful

you might actually lose that bet, first off the numbers are way exaggerated...secondly it would depend on the Class, Player, and the build but it is very possible....i remember how crazy my destruction / demonology warlock used to be lol...you have to use all skills or your dps would be crap. Even in tera or rift when i played them.

Edit: As it goes, if you're not using them all you're doing it wrong!

I am so glad that good gameplay in GW2 has nothing to do with having the highest DPS

Lol not that anyone else can tell but it is possible to "Roughly" measure where your dps stands by testing rotations on mobs till you find the one that kills them fastest and hits the hardest. but like another person said theres no real way to measure it, but i still like to aim to be the best i can be in any game :)

That's the thing people don't seem to get.

Yes, you "only" get 10 skills on your bar (though you also get 1-4 class specific abilities) but they are NOT just spam and forget or rotation-based DPS etc. etc.

Each and every single skill has a purpose and a greater strategy and synergy with other skills and talents.

Even the "auto-attacks" (1) have 3 phases and depending on the weapon have different effects like Heals, Illusion generation, bleeds, etc. etc.

It may be very simple on the surface - 10 skills.. but the layers of complexity between skills and builds and traits and gear and all the synergies and relationships and combos and strategies...

So much depth.

#askaGW1player

Originally posted by BadSpock

That's the thing people don't seem to get.

Yes, you "only" get 10 skills on your bar (though you also get 1-4 class specific abilities) but they are NOT just spam and forget or rotation-based DPS etc. etc.

Each and every single skill has a purpose and a greater strategy and synergy with other skills and talents.

Even the "auto-attacks" (1) have 3 phases and depending on the weapon have different effects like Heals, Illusion generation, bleeds, etc. etc.

It may be very simple on the surface - 10 skills.. but the layers of complexity between skills and builds and traits and gear and all the synergies and relationships and combos and strategies...

So much depth.

#askaGW1player

 

you seem to be forgetting tho that rotations are based around dps abilities, and when ur not dodging or CC'ing what are you doing :P you can very well still find a suitable rotation even if its between 2-3 skills during a burst phase where ur clear to dps

Edit: also being tho "No-root" system everyone seems to enjoy you can avoid attacks WHILE using a rotation its just in general a way of keeping track of your dps abilities 

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Originally posted by Odinthedark1

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Originally posted by lilHeala OP, why is it so hard to accept that people like and are very positive about something you don't like?

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I never said i hated it? re-read the OP i didnt say that it was bad i just said that it seemed over rated from the short amount of time i got to play it hence the question in my first post. Edit: nvm actually i shouldnt feed the trolls am trying to keep this a serious thread.

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Plain and simple, why do people think this combat is so great you get 5 skills per weapon and then ur healing skill and utilities which are consistent and changable

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is this pure fanboyism as to why its so hyped or are people just clinging to hope as all other mmo's that have come out recently have been mediocre at best?

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