I feel it's more a 7.5 or soft 8 but the review seems fair. We all know swtor got a better score than it deserved but that doesn't mean we should lower the bar for other games. It is good to see game sites giving more subjective reviews.

Originally posted by DaezAster

I feel it's more a 7.5 or soft 8 but the review seems fair. We all know swtor got a better score than it deserved but that doesn't mean we should lower the bar for other games. It is good to see game sites giving more subjective reviews.

Game sites should be giving objective reviews, not subjective.

When I'm looking at any game I want an unbiased opinion, I don't want to read their gushing/flaming of a game... that's subjective.

I want an objective overview of the pros/cons to see if it's worth further investigating.  If I want a subjective view on a game I can go to a forum and read from people giving subjective reviews.  When I read (rarely) a "professional" review I want it objective and not flavored by their personal tastes.

A review flavored by personal tastes is subjective or a Blog.

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Originally posted by BadSpock
For some reason I thought this was a TOR thread...

Oh IGN, you are so silly!

They gave TOR a 9/10, so TSW must be terrible!

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lol

I once thought the same way until I saw they pick review scores based on 2 methods. How much said company has comped them, and where the number the dart landed on the board.

Originally posted by Dakirn

Originally posted by DaezAster

I feel it's more a 7.5 or soft 8 but the review seems fair. We all know swtor got a better score than it deserved but that doesn't mean we should lower the bar for other games. It is good to see game sites giving more subjective reviews.

Game sites should be giving objective reviews, not subjective.

 

When I'm looking at any game I want an unbiased opinion, I don't want to read their gushing/flaming of a game... that's subjective.

 

I want an objective overview of the pros/cons to see if it's worth further investigating.  If I want a subjective view on a game I can go to a forum and read from people giving subjective reviews.  When I read (rarely) a "professional" review I want it objective and not flavored by their personal tastes.

 

A review flavored by personal tastes is subjective or a Blog.

I agree, used the wrong wording but that is what I was trying to say. 

having only played the BWE and watching videos, reading news and other info I'd give it a 7.5. I do think 7 for graphics and sound should be closer to 8. But thats Gamespot they don't want the overall score to be 8. Honestly don't care what anyone rates it. My opinion > all for me.

Lifetimer here.  Loving and enjoying the game as well.

Agree with the overall review.  I think bugs are really hurting the overall "scores" we are seeing from some reviews.  It makes all the other "cracks" seem that much more bigger.  As more things go wrong, the more critical you're probably going to be of everything else.

I can't remember the last time I've run into this many bugs in a product that wasn't in beta.  I'm sure I experienced bugs in games like SWtOR and Rift... but they must've been so minor that I never consciously realized I hit a bug.  In TSW, bugs and wonkiness are almost expected :)  So yes, there is a distinct lack of polish that is dragging down the overall experience down.  Even I've logged out in frustration.

There has been one particular mission that has been "fixed" each patch... and yet it still gets into a bugged state.  It does make you question when you see "Fixed for real this time" in the patch notes.... and yet players are still running into issues :P

I will say, that I feel like many TSW reviews have been more on point/honest/realistic than other MMO reviews we've seen in the past.

Originally posted by mmoguy43

having only played the BWE and watching videos, reading news and other info I'd give it a 7.5. I do think 7 for graphics and sound should be closer to 8. But thats Gamespot they don't want the overall score to be 8. Honestly don't care what anyone rates it. My opinion > all for me.

It's too bad that you rate it on BWEs since the game was already quite a bit different at release.

Sometimes I wish MMOs wouldn't give such early views of the game because it confuses people sometimes between what the "beta" of the game is and what is there at release.

I don't know what people compare the game to in order to give graphics a 5-7 though.. that must be some MMO that I'm not playing (and nobody else is either for that matter).

As a single player game I would have given TSW a 8-9 but a 7 seems about right for a MMO.  All the games social/multiplayer aspects seem tacked on at best with no really effort put into them.

Originally posted by rwyan

Lifetimer here.  Loving and enjoying the game as well.

Agree with the overall review.  I think bugs are really hurting the overall "scores" we are seeing from some reviews.  It makes all the other "cracks" seem that much more bigger.  As more things go wrong, the more critical you're probably going to be of everything else.

I can't remember the last time I've run into this many bugs in a product that wasn't in beta.  I'm sure I experienced bugs in games like SWtOR and Rift... but they must've been so minor that I never consciously realized I hit a bug.  In TSW, bugs and wonkiness are almost expected :)  So yes, there is a distinct lack of polish that is dragging down the overall experience down.  Even I've logged out in frustration.

There has been one particular mission that has been "fixed" each patch... and yet it still gets into a bugged state.  It does make you question when you see "Fixed for real this time" in the patch notes.... and yet players are still running into issues :P

I will say, that I feel like many TSW reviews have been more on point/honest/realistic than other MMO reviews we've seen in the past.

 

What bugs are you running into? I am probably more than half way through Egypt and I have encountered exactly three bugged missions (That all seem to work now though). Other than that the game plays perfectly to me.  I am guessing the mission you are talking about above is the Black House which I have heard is still buggy for some.

I do disagree with the rating for graphics in the review. I think, on Ultra settings the game looks awesome. I also realize that you will either really enjoy the game or absolutely hate it. I have not spend a ton of time in PVP either as I am enjoying the PVE content and trying to build different skill decks.

For me, this game is almost as good as GW2 and far better than many other games that got MUCH higher scores from IGN.

Originally posted by Wakygreek

Originally posted by JosephJR

 compared IGN's another mmorpg rewiews I dissagree

they score  sound 7/10...it should be 10/10

they score graphic 7/10 shoul be 10/10

they score gameplay 7/10 should be 8/10,personal 9/10

they score presentation 8/10 should be 9/10

they score lasting appeal  6/10...should be 8/10....personal 9/10

 

 

i dislike in TSW  ; cut scenes & voice acting(  devs should stop with that crap in MMORPG's) , PvP(tryed & still trying  find some fun but it is  bad

 My response is of course purely opinion. However I cannot help but think that your grading system is more along the lines of heavily biased unless of course you can give us a really good reason why you give TSW almost all high ratings. IGN's score is fair if not a little too kind.

I ll told you...same as IGN's author  review, it is personal opinion nothing else,I love game it is why 

I enjoiying in gameplay,great comunity....finaly  playing mmorpg in my favorite setting ,

IGN gave SW:TOR a 9 out of 10.

That says it all right there.

Their reviews are horseshit.

they score  sound 7/10.....imho.it should be 8-9/10

they score graphic 7/10 ....imho should be 9/10

they score gameplay 7/10....imho it should be 9/10

they score presentation 8/10 .....imho  it should be 9/10

they score lasting appeal  6/10...i sadly agree, but we shall see..

In general I think it's fair.  A 7 is good.  We've just been so biased by the inflated scores that are normally given out.  I haven't played all that far yet but so far I'm enjoying the hell out of it.  We'll see if it sticks.

Originally posted by dougmysticey

Originally posted by rwyan

Lifetimer here.  Loving and enjoying the game as well.

Agree with the overall review.  I think bugs are really hurting the overall "scores" we are seeing from some reviews.  It makes all the other "cracks" seem that much more bigger.  As more things go wrong, the more critical you're probably going to be of everything else.

I can't remember the last time I've run into this many bugs in a product that wasn't in beta.  I'm sure I experienced bugs in games like SWtOR and Rift... but they must've been so minor that I never consciously realized I hit a bug.  In TSW, bugs and wonkiness are almost expected :)  So yes, there is a distinct lack of polish that is dragging down the overall experience down.  Even I've logged out in frustration.

There has been one particular mission that has been "fixed" each patch... and yet it still gets into a bugged state.  It does make you question when you see "Fixed for real this time" in the patch notes.... and yet players are still running into issues :P

I will say, that I feel like many TSW reviews have been more on point/honest/realistic than other MMO reviews we've seen in the past.

 

What bugs are you running into? I am probably more than half way through Egypt and I have encountered exactly three bugged missions (That all seem to work now though). Other than that the game plays perfectly to me.  I am guessing the mission you are talking about above is the Black House which I have heard is still buggy for some.

I do disagree with the rating for graphics in the review. I think, on Ultra settings the game looks awesome. I also realize that you will either really enjoy the game or absolutely hate it. I have not spend a ton of time in PVP either as I am enjoying the PVE content and trying to build different skill decks.

For me, this game is almost as good as GW2 and far better than many other games that got MUCH higher scores from IGN.

I agree with your assesment of the graphics: I'm running full DX11 Ultra and it's gorgeous (getting about 75 fps+ too.) I wouldn't give it a 10 though since the character models need a bit of work... it's made me wonder if Norwegians are a plain people  I'd go 9 there.

My major disagreement with their review is  sound though. This is the best sound in any MMO I have evr played. Absolutely top-notch. 9.5... just because I never give out 10s.

I have run into many more bugs than you in quests though. It's not so much broken quests as it is breakable quests: you get 2 or 3 people interacting with the quest items at the same time and not only does it screw it up for everyone there but sometimes it breaks it. Otoh, I've never run into a bugged quest that couldn't be completed by just getting an invite to another shard where it isn't broken.

I agree with their other scores except I think they're being overly harsh guessing about lasting appeal. I'd go no lower than 7 there. So... 9, 9.5. 7, 8, 7... looks like about an 8.1 to me.

Hmm, they must've not been paid enough. 

I do not understand how they can justify a 7 for sound and graphic - there is not better looking mmo out, a few that have the same high level of graphic and the sounds usually fit the mood of the game very well.

So i disagree with that.

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

Let me add this.

If you "Only played in the beta weekends" no matter how many of them?

Your opinion on the game's score is utterly and completely worthless.

Don't even share your opinion on what the game "should be rated in your opinion". Because your opinion doesn't matter.  You didn't play the live game? Then scram, get out of here. You played some hand-out-weekend for an incomplete game and you want to share your opinion on its completed level of quality?

Get lost.

No matter how it is formed, it is still an opinion. :) Like this one. Your opinion here.

I give TSW a 9.

I only do so because its original and very entertaining.  There are some bugs and the PvP is rather bad but I can live with alot of TSW's faults because it actually trys to be different from the WoW clones.

My score...my opinion after 3 week

Gameplay : 7.5 /10

sound: 9/10

music:7/10

Graphic :8/10

pvp:6.5/10

pve and storyline:9/10

longivity:7/10

so i give 7.5/10 for TWS ..but i like funcom..

Sounds exactly right.