Trending Games | Pirate101 | Warhammer 40K: Eternal Crusade | Shroud of the Avatar | EverQuest

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,900,282 Users Online:0
Games:751  Posts:6,269,400
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

General Discussion

General Discussion 

The Pub at MMORPG.COM  » Top-5 List - Things Driving Burnout in MMORPGs

2 Pages 1 2 » Search
27 posts found
  ZombieKen

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/30/10
Posts: 4410

Zombie - Dead but still moving.

 
OP  7/21/12 7:04:43 PM#1

Burnouts, let's hear your list.

 

Top-5 things driving burnout in MMORPGs:

1. Tedius questing.  Every quest hub is the same, just reskinned.  Quests feel meaningless.

2. No variety in combat.  Attack every mob the same way over and over.

3. Useless crafting.  Spend time and earnings leveling crafting only to find out later that it achieved nothing.

4. Ultra low drop rate quest items.  Kill 15 boars get 1 boar meat.

5. Slow respawns.  Quest is to kill 10 snargletooths, there are only 8 and there's a 10 minute respawn.

MSOTSG with PPE : Massively Single-player Online Task-driven Storyline Game with Purchasable Performance Enhancements *grin*

  laokoko

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/14/09
Posts: 1931

7/21/12 7:18:03 PM#2

1.  getting older, start to realize video game is for kid

2.  find out about real life

3.  realize every video game created now is the same as every game you used to enjoy, and stopped enjoying

4.  realized your a losser in real life from playing too much video game

5.  find out video game really isn't that fun

 

 

  User Deleted
7/21/12 7:20:45 PM#3

1. heavy heavy story driven mmos (developer made stories)
2. 90% combat focused with afterthought crafting and shallow "mini games" to convince people its an mmorpg
3. games made tedious so you can buy convenience in a cash shop
4. esport and the never ending quest for class balance
5. getting rewarded for the slightest fart of an accomplishment

  User Deleted
7/21/12 8:42:25 PM#4

1. Listening to jaded forum users, whose bitter jaded opinions plant seeds of doubt in everyone's minds and perpetuate negative feelings about every game that people might otherwise enjoy

 

2. Too short of a leveling curve and everyone reaching max level in several weeks only to find there's nothing to do other than to repeat the max level content over and over again

 

3. Items #1 and #2 driving the in-game community to quit, leaving those that still enjoy the game with much fewer people to play with

 

4. Not enough meaningful non-combat things to do while leveling and at max level. Crafting, exploration, housing are either poorly done or left out complately

 

5. Technology limitations that make the diveristy of MMORGS to be pretty limited. There's only so much you can do with a mouse and keyboard. And example of what I mean would be: New game "Pong"...oooh...new game "hockey"...oh...new game..."soccer"...all using the same pong interface

  Prankster

Novice Member

Joined: 2/26/04
Posts: 165

People Suck Avoid Them Whenever Possible

7/21/12 8:52:22 PM#5

Can't believe no one said "Google".  The ability to solve any quest by typing a few words into a search engine really takes a bite out of the game and leads to burnout.

Forums come a close second. I'm glad everyone gets a chance to express themselves but you can get stuck in the forum madness and suddenly find fault with everything.

Shoddy design, when you see the same NPC in every city. If you hear the same dialogue every time you pass a certain area. When you walk into an invisible wall all these things contribute ot burnout.

Constant class balancing. If you have to balance more then half of the classes then you did something wrong. Absolutely nothing worse then getting into a character only to have its powers gutted and leads to burnout.

 

 

 

Refugee from UO,EQ,AC,AC2,AO,DAOC,L2,SB,HZ,CoH,PT,EQ2,WoW,VG,SWG,EVE,WAR,DF,MO,AI,GA,LOTRO, SWTOR... Gw2 on Deck

  kb4blu

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/10/03
Posts: 673

7/22/12 8:15:12 AM#6

1. EA

2. People that require that you play the game the way they do. 

3. Gear Score

4. In game shops

5. Solo centric MMOs

 

  Kyleran

Bitter Vet™

Joined: 9/13/06
Posts: 19238

Fools find no pleasure in understanding, but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

7/22/12 9:30:08 AM#7
Originally posted by kb4blu

1. EA

2. People that require that you play the game the way they do. 

3. Gear Score

4. In game shops

5. Solo centric MMOs

 

Wait, aren't items 2 and 4 somewhat a contradiction?  If a game was more group centric, then you'd be forcing someone to play in a manner they don't want to.

Sometimes it's good to be forced to do things we don't like as we don't always know what's best for us.

Anyways, here's my list

1) Participating in beta testing.  So many people spend months in beta testing and by time the game launches they've either already consumed most of the content, or are able to just burn through it at launch (perhaps experiencing it for the umpteenth time) and again, finding the overall title to be unsatisfactory. 

I avoid them these days however another consequence is that when I want to take my time and enjoy the content for the 1st time, these former beta testers have seen it all before and want to just rush, rush, rush through everything and become impatient with me. (if it was a FFA PVP environment I'd probably gank them when their back was turned)

2)  End games without some aspect of PVP  territory control/resource denial.  DAOC proved theme parks can have a solid PVP endgame, more sandbox like titles such as EVE have a built in system for the most part.  It doesn't have to be mandatory, but it should be available, and it should be fairly massive, and not some small battleground like affair.

3)  Progression that comes to an end.  Most people play MMO's because they enjoy progressing a character from lower levels to higher.  Once they start to think progression has come to an end it frequently results in players want to quit and move on.  There are multiple ways to accomplish this, and picking only one form (i.e. gear grinding) probably hastens burn out and should be avoided.

4) As others have mentioned, overly short leveling curves is probably not a good thing, but is also one of the hardest to get right.  For the hardcore players, they can tolerate Lineage 2 style leveling, while to this day there are players who find WOW's leveling to be a bit too slow for their liking.  Finding the sweet spot is probably one of the most difficult challenges out there. Of course, you can always do away with levels and solve part of this problem, but it opens up a few more as well.

5)  Over focus on combat as part of the game's design. Seems like many players don't like to always "fight, fight, fight" so having fun, creative activities besides killing stuff will go a long way to increasing a game's longevity

 

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, "Meany", you speak as if these are bad things?
Kyleran - Bitter Vet ™ since 2006
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon

  Draron

Novice Member

Joined: 5/07/11
Posts: 1009

7/22/12 10:06:32 AM#8

1 - The amount of new games that seem to follow the WoW formula of going from quest hub to quest hub to reach max level.

2 - Crafting and gathering (and other non-combat systems) being almost an afterthought, and provides no real meaning at endgame.

3 - The term endgame. Even moreso when people associate tiered raids and PVP battlegrounds with it.

4 - No player variety, set classes. A max level x class will be just like the other maxed leveled characters of that class.

5 - Getting old, like post #2 said.

  StonesDK

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/06/11
Posts: 1839

7/22/12 10:12:02 AM#9

There's only one thing that causes MMO burnout. That's playing too much. MMO gamers are not known for playing in moderation. Repeating that ad nauseam over x amount of years jumping into every new MMO with the same mindset.

  just1opinion

Smart-Alek

Joined: 8/14/07
Posts: 4933

7/22/12 10:15:09 AM#10
Originally posted by Psychow

1. Listening to jaded forum users, whose bitter jaded opinions plant seeds of doubt in everyone's minds and perpetuate negative feelings about every game that people might otherwise enjoy

 

2. Too short of a leveling curve and everyone reaching max level in several weeks only to find there's nothing to do other than to repeat the max level content over and over again

 

3. Items #1 and #2 driving the in-game community to quit, leaving those that still enjoy the game with much fewer people to play with

 

4. Not enough meaningful non-combat things to do while leveling and at max level. Crafting, exploration, housing are either poorly done or left out complately

 

5. Technology limitations that make the diveristy of MMORGS to be pretty limited. There's only so much you can do with a mouse and keyboard. And example of what I mean would be: New game "Pong"...oooh...new game "hockey"...oh...new game..."soccer"...all using the same pong interface

 

All of these are good.  Number 1 is superb.  Seriously, every day I spend on here makes me hate gaming a little more.  That poisonous negativity that is all over this site is contagious and deadly.  I think it's spirit crushing to a gamer.  I do so much better when I spend less time around here.  I'm just in a better mood and also more apt to be actively enjoying a game.

President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club

  Draron

Novice Member

Joined: 5/07/11
Posts: 1009

7/22/12 10:16:45 AM#11
Originally posted by Starpower

There's only one thing that causes MMO burnout. That's playing too much. MMO gamers are not known for playing in moderation. Repeating that ad nauseam over x amount of years jumping into every new MMO with the same mindset.

True. I'm taking this thread as "5 things your tired of seeing in MMO's". You can't have burnout from a game that has new mechanics, but only for those you've played already.

 

Originally posted by just1opinion
Originally posted by Psychow

1. Listening to jaded forum users, whose bitter jaded opinions plant seeds of doubt in everyone's minds and perpetuate negative feelings about every game that people might otherwise enjoy

 

2. Too short of a leveling curve and everyone reaching max level in several weeks only to find there's nothing to do other than to repeat the max level content over and over again

 

3. Items #1 and #2 driving the in-game community to quit, leaving those that still enjoy the game with much fewer people to play with

 

4. Not enough meaningful non-combat things to do while leveling and at max level. Crafting, exploration, housing are either poorly done or left out complately

 

5. Technology limitations that make the diveristy of MMORGS to be pretty limited. There's only so much you can do with a mouse and keyboard. And example of what I mean would be: New game "Pong"...oooh...new game "hockey"...oh...new game..."soccer"...all using the same pong interface

All of these are good.  Number 1 is superb.  Seriously, every day I spend on here makes me hate gaming a little more.  That poisonous negativity that is all over this site is contagious and deadly.  I think it's spirit crushing to a gamer.  I do so much better when I spend less time around here.  I'm just in a better mood and also more apt to be actively enjoying a game.

 

 

Agree with this completely.

  fenistil

Novice Member

Joined: 9/22/11
Posts: 3016

7/22/12 6:40:07 PM#12

1. Quest gps, mini-maps tags, highlighted things and game spitting objectives and arrows in my face. Hand-holding.

2. Cash Shops and RMAH ideas and existence in game I play.

3. Combat, combat and combat only with everything else totally neglected.

4. Automatic systems and tools creating matchmaking lobby experience. AH, cross-server LFG and so on.

5. 95% of end-game in instances of some kind. Be it instanced dungeon, instanced arena or battleground or instances raids. They are nice, but too much focus on them.

  User Deleted
7/22/12 8:02:58 PM#13
Originally posted by fenistil

1. Quest gps, mini-maps tags, highlighted things and game spitting objectives and arrows in my face. Hand-holding.

2. Cash Shops and RMAH ideas and existence in game I play.

3. Combat, combat and combat only with everything else totally neglected.

4. Automatic systems and tools creating matchmaking lobby experience. AH, cross-server LFG and so on.

5. 95% of end-game in instances of some kind. Be it instanced dungeon, instanced arena or battleground or instances raids. They are nice, but too much focus on them.

 

So basically WoW / D3 / Blizzard. 

  fenistil

Novice Member

Joined: 9/22/11
Posts: 3016

7/22/12 8:48:10 PM#14
Originally posted by Psychow
Originally posted by fenistil

1. Quest gps, mini-maps tags, highlighted things and game spitting objectives and arrows in my face. Hand-holding.

2. Cash Shops and RMAH ideas and existence in game I play.

3. Combat, combat and combat only with everything else totally neglected.

4. Automatic systems and tools creating matchmaking lobby experience. AH, cross-server LFG and so on.

5. 95% of end-game in instances of some kind. Be it instanced dungeon, instanced arena or battleground or instances raids. They are nice, but too much focus on them.

 

So basically WoW / D3 / Blizzard. 

Yeah.

 

I still enjoy occasional Warcraft 3 game on battle.net after all those years, but that is lobby rts game not a mmorpg and actually my only rts game I play.

 

Aside of that - preety much yes. 

WoW Vanilla was fun for a fw months cause of it quality and few news things, but it quickly start to felt very limited in non-combat department (previous mmorpg was UO)+ by the time of BC it was kinda obvious where game was going so I left and I don't regret it.

Overally yes - Blizzard just does not make games I like anymore, I don't like automation&hand holding systems developed or embraced by it and impact it has on mmorpg genre.

  Avarix

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/22/12
Posts: 297

7/22/12 9:04:00 PM#15

1. Voice acting. Not just voice acting, anything like it that I view as frivolous. Only recently has this become an issue for me since I see it as a plague that is using up valuable resources that can be better spent elsewhere. I never had any problem actually reading things and my imagination will always do a better job of it.

2. Combat. I can still play turn-based games without an issue. Fast paced, devote all your attention to, combat is nice in theory but not for MMOs since you can't be social and have all your attention on combat at the same time. I want something more tactical, not twitchier.

3. Solo content. Everything being solo friendly. I would say upwards of 70% of content that is released in MMOs now is for solo play. It takes the need for the first part of (MMO)RPG out of the genre.

4. Grinding or lack of. Lack of content was always an issue but at least before this was lessened by making you play for much longer periods of time to achieve the same result. When you can reach cap and are done with your character in a week, why are you trying to charge a monthly fee? There may be a set of graphs and charts out there showing that all you need is box sales to support an MMORPG since that is all they seem to be accomplishing lately.

5. Dev team. A balls to the wall development team post launch. Trion is one of the few that seems to get this. They actually work for the money you are giving them. All the others so far just seem to be charging us for bug fixes.

  crack_fox

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/09/04
Posts: 402

7/22/12 11:11:29 PM#16

Great Expectations – allowing yourself to get swept along on the hype wave of the latest game, becoming disappointed and disillusioned when the reality fails to match your inflated expectations and frothing with the rest of the indignant quitters on the inevitable backwash.

The Road To Damascus Experience – having a belated epiphany as it finally hits you that the sum of your virtual heroics is of next to no worth in the real world and that you’re still on noob island in the Game of Life. Often accompanied by some life-changing, real-world occurrence such as the birth of a child, the death of a relative or the end of a relationship.

Familiarity Breeds Contempt – same sh*t, different world. You’ve been around the block too many times to ever hope to recapture that sense of wonder and novelty that first hooked you all those years ago. But you keep hoping, even though you know it’s as futile as trying to recapture the magic of Christmas long after you’ve found out that Santa isn’t real.

The Mr Creosote Playstyle – consuming content without savour in a headlong rush to an unsatisfying end game. And then vomiting the remnants of your half-digested game experience all over the forums before exploding with impotent nerd rage.

Conspiracy Theory – believing that EA/Marketing/’Suits’ or other manifestations of the Man are out to suck the goodness out of gaming just to make a quick buck. 

  dave6660

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/26/08
Posts: 2350

"Next time I see you, remind me not to talk to you."

7/23/12 11:14:27 AM#17
Originally posted by Psychow

1. Listening to jaded forum users, whose bitter jaded opinions plant seeds of doubt in everyone's minds and perpetuate negative feelings about every game that people might otherwise enjoy

 

2. Too short of a leveling curve and everyone reaching max level in several weeks only to find there's nothing to do other than to repeat the max level content over and over again

 

3. Items #1 and #2 driving the in-game community to quit, leaving those that still enjoy the game with much fewer people to play with

 

4. Not enough meaningful non-combat things to do while leveling and at max level. Crafting, exploration, housing are either poorly done or left out complately

 

5. Technology limitations that make the diveristy of MMORGS to be pretty limited. There's only so much you can do with a mouse and keyboard. And example of what I mean would be: New game "Pong"...oooh...new game "hockey"...oh...new game..."soccer"...all using the same pong interface

You give the "bitter jaded" players way too much credit.  Is your opinion that easily swayed by negative reviews on the internet?  Not to mention I doubt a large number of players read forum reviews.

Number 2 and 4 I strongly agree with you.

That last item I partly blame on the players themselves.  They want the same interface so it doesn't require anything new to learn.  I'm not sure if an mmorpg would work using a Wii controller or the XBox Kinect.  Maybe voice recognition could be interesting.

"Why so serious?"
-- The Joker

  User Deleted
7/23/12 11:41:01 AM#18
Originally posted by crack_fox

Great Expectations – allowing yourself to get swept along on the hype wave of the latest game, becoming disappointed and disillusioned when the reality fails to match your inflated expectations and frothing with the rest of the indignant quitters on the inevitable backwash.

The Road To Damascus Experience – having a belated epiphany as it finally hits you that the sum of your virtual heroics is of next to no worth in the real world and that you’re still on noob island in the Game of Life. Often accompanied by some life-changing, real-world occurrence such as the birth of a child, the death of a relative or the end of a relationship.

Familiarity Breeds Contempt – same sh*t, different world. You’ve been around the block too many times to ever hope to recapture that sense of wonder and novelty that first hooked you all those years ago. But you keep hoping, even though you know it’s as futile as trying to recapture the magic of Christmas long after you’ve found out that Santa isn’t real.

The Mr Creosote Playstyle – consuming content without savour in a headlong rush to an unsatisfying end game. And then vomiting the remnants of your half-digested game experience all over the forums before exploding with impotent nerd rage.

Conspiracy Theory – believing that EA/Marketing/’Suits’ or other manifestations of the Man are out to suck the goodness out of gaming just to make a quick buck. 

 

Good list. Especially "Conspiracy Theory" and "The Mr Creosote Playstyle" points.

  Yodi2007

Novice Member

Joined: 6/30/12
Posts: 167

7/25/12 2:03:53 AM#19

My Top Five of Things

1. Games that follow the WoW/Blizzard approach! (loved it then but too much a good thing leaves a bad taste in your mouth)

2. Watered down PvP. No real objectives other than doing it to get last season's PvP gear.

3. Lazy Devs and Corporate Suits! <--- Is pretty much self explainatory!

4. Gear grinds, Gear Scores, Best gear only obtained in instances and not crafted from hard working crafters, thus making most crafts useless other than alchemey and cooking! ( I hate crafting )

5. Wife aggro...........! LoL j/K, Mostly Hype of a game that does a #1 on my plate and above!  

Below is where we can disscuss and come up with new ideas for Sandparks!

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5164689#5164689

  JimmyYO

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/13/11
Posts: 541

7/25/12 2:15:27 AM#20

1. No Endgame

2. Obvious flaws fixable by a programming intern in alpha stage, e.g resolution changes screwing up interface changes, etc.

3. Overlooked mechanic fails, game launching with 2 sec ability delay on 15 ping

4. Forced Questing(98% of MMO's)

5. Kiddy nonsense thrown in serious environment, think Bleach anime

2 Pages 1 2 » Search