Originally posted by Cromica

Go play the explorable dungeons and tell me the pve is not difficult.

the dungeons were diffinately difficult and the difficulty of Dungeons can be scaled down/up sepperate from wolrd pve. Dungeons is a seppearate issue to be discussed in another post.

While I played alot, to lvl 24. i did not try any dungeons in BWE3, I did get smashed to a pulp repeatedly in BWE2 dungeon though.

Originally posted by Cromica

Go play the explorable dungeons and tell me the pve is not difficult.

LOL  yeah, I'd like to hear THAT argument, but whatever.  It seems to me just an epeen contest.  He who can fight the hardest battles has the biggest e-wieney.  I'm not sure when the PvE part of MMOs became a competitive sport, but I think that's best left for the PvE dungeons and PvP.  Just my singular opinion.

Originally posted by Garvon3

Originally posted by DaezAster

You can always go to higher level content if you are looking for more of a challenge.

Not when everything scales...

You still can, I was killing level 14 mobs when I was 9.

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Originally posted by c-tray

Dungeons should be a sepparate discussion I'm talking open world PVE content. If you played BWE2 and BWE3 than you should have been able to see there was a big difference in difficulty level.

 Eh...chances are it was probably changed from player feedback so doubt you're going to get anywhere with your petition.

If this is true and player feedback said it's too easy, then the difficulty may end up somewhere in between that in BWE2 and BWE3.

Originally posted by Garvon3

Originally posted by DaezAster

You can always go to higher level content if you are looking for more of a challenge.

Not when everything scales...

You can get sidekicked down your level....but not UP.

If you go to a higher level area...you´ll remain in your curren level so you´ll find it harder.

In all MMOs I've played, they were either easy mode from start to finish, or got a bit harder at times. I can't remember an MMO that was in any way hard, except for the instanced dungeons/raids of course. Sure I'd love a game with the difficulty of Guild Wars 1 but I'm certain the vast majority of players wouldn't. Orr should be very difficult though and I expect the difficulty to be extremely higher there

Originally posted by just1opinion

Originally posted by Cromica

Go play the explorable dungeons and tell me the pve is not difficult.

 

LOL  yeah, I'd like to hear THAT argument, but whatever.  It seems to me just an epeen contest.  He who can fight the hardest battles has the biggest e-wieney.  I'm not sure when the PvE part of MMOs became a competitive sport, but I think that's best left for the PvE dungeons and PvP.  Just my singular opinion.

Because every f'n developer releases games that offer no challenge, or more accurately offer challenging content and they dumb it down for the masses. I'm sorry but it's really boring to just walk around experiencing everything without the fear that hey, this might be tough I might want to be careful what i do here.

so while those who don't need a challenge get their way from the plethora of games already available, gamers that were happy to find  a challenge in GW2 at BWE2 have seem that once again dumbed down, again.

Originally posted by Garvon3

Originally posted by DaezAster

You can always go to higher level content if you are looking for more of a challenge.

Not when everything scales...

Mob levels do not scale down for you during an event. If you go to an event in a level 23 area as a level 15 the mobs are still level 23.

A little OT but anyone else get an intense feeling of anxiety doing some of the jumping puzzles or is it just me

Originally posted by Cromica

Originally posted by Garvon3

Originally posted by DaezAster

You can always go to higher level content if you are looking for more of a challenge.

Not when everything scales...

You still can, I was killing level 14 mobs when I was 9.

You just proved my point.  Not to mention you'll be surrounded by higher level players who would pick up any slack. There's still never much danger of failure.

Originally posted by Garvon3

Originally posted by Cromica

Originally posted by Garvon3

Originally posted by DaezAster

You can always go to higher level content if you are looking for more of a challenge.

Not when everything scales...

You still can, I was killing level 14 mobs when I was 9.

You just proved my point.  Not to mention you'll be surrounded by higher level players who would pick up any slack. There's still never much danger of failure.

There was nothing easy about it, if they hit me I was dead, and each fight took about 10 mins for 1 mob

If you want increased difficulty then roll a Thief.

But seriously, there are plenty of challenges to be found in this game.  It's what you make of it.  If you feel it's not difficult enough then you're not looking very hard. 

Originally posted by c-tray

For players who played Earlier BWE's and/or players that found GW2 to easy (PVE Content). please chime in here

 https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/suggestions/Please-reinstate-PvE-difficulty/page/1

I would really like if they would scale the difficulty back to what it was in BWE2.

Thanks.

Agreed and signed on the official forum.

Originally posted by Garvon3

Originally posted by Cromica

Originally posted by Garvon3

Originally posted by DaezAster

You can always go to higher level content if you are looking for more of a challenge.

Not when everything scales...

You still can, I was killing level 14 mobs when I was 9.

You just proved my point.  Not to mention you'll be surrounded by higher level players who would pick up any slack. There's still never much danger of failure.

And yet events are failing at higher levels where there is no super huge zerg. Events scale up to a point, they can't scale for 1000 people, once that initial zerg disappear even the "easier" events will become a lot harder

Originally posted by achesoma

If you want increased difficulty then roll a Thief.

But seriously, there are plenty of challenges to be found in this game.  It's what you make of it.  If you feel it's not difficult enough then you're not looking very hard. 

But the point was that the game WAS much harder in the last beta, and was significantly easier in THIS beta. Many, myself included, thought the last one had it balanced much better.

Originally posted by achesoma

If you want increased difficulty then roll a Thief.

But seriously, there are plenty of challenges to be found in this game.  It's what you make of it.  If you feel it's not difficult enough then you're not looking very hard. 

I did and it was a lot easier now than in BWE1 unless the Sylvari zone is made to be easier by purpose.

Really, making the game easier just before the release is a huge misstake. What made GW1 so big as it was is because it was difficult in at launch. No, it ain't anymore but we deserve a few years of challenges before dumbing the game down.

Originally posted by achesoma

If you want increased difficulty then roll a Thief.

But seriously, there are plenty of challenges to be found in this game.  It's what you make of it.  If you feel it's not difficult enough then you're not looking very hard. 

Did you play in BWE2? Did you find it too difficult?

Originally posted by Garvon3

Originally posted by DaezAster

You can always go to higher level content if you are looking for more of a challenge.

Not when everything scales...

It doesn't scale up..

the frozen mew in the norn area was a beast at any one time in that fight there be 10+ payers down and yes i know this is a meta event.

so what if a player can take on 1 or 2 mobs 5 level higher. you try and take on 5 or more at the same time your are going to be running away or killed. and i find that even at lvl fight 5 or more solo tat the same time is a little hard but it can be done.

If for someone FUN means only EASY, then he has an issue. If someone gets angry and can't have fun in game if they loose, well you'll grow up from this some day...

I pretty much stopped playing mmo's after they removed death penalties from most of them, and made it almost impossible to die if you are doing stuff on your level. If you can't loose it is not a game anymore, no fun or satisfaction for me. I'm waiting here for something difficult to show up. I will sign this if it helps.