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  Gaia_Hunter

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7/21/12 2:17:19 PM#41
Originally posted by rutaq
Originally posted by Aelious
Unlike any other game GW2 does not give you an advantages for being higher level so the xp mods are like cosmetic items. They are there for the people who want them, not need them.

 

I just played for about 8 hours and thankful 7 of those hours were in WVW.  

 

Just to clairify the rumors and misinformantion....Your character's level directly impacts your ability to use different weapons and skills.  As you level you unlock more abilities and powers.    Your Hitpoints and inital damage output is normalized in PvP but thats it,  the unlocks through levelling your character make you even tougher, higher damage, higher survivability, faster, more versitle, etc...

 

So levelling faster using the item shop  is an advantage that directly impacts PvP. 

 

 

Not PvP - WvW.

And what happens when everyone naturally reach lvl 80.

And what happens in that siege assault that involves 100+ people, using cannons, arrow carts and other siege engines that don't care about your real level?

WvW - is warfare. Warfare isn't balanced per Anet own design. But WvW isn't pay to win.

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  Vidir

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7/21/12 2:23:29 PM#42
Originally posted by lathaan

why would you care? if you arent interested and got lots of time - dont buy it. its not that anyone has an advantage when lvling faster than you ;)

 Since you can buy a crafting boost it will make crafting for people that dont pay meaningless.

One thing is xp bonus since most people dont care if other people are first to reach max level,but if you can buy a bonus for your crafting skill to get more magical stuff then that is scruwed imo.

  Searias

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7/21/12 2:24:57 PM#43
Originally posted by evemaster00

+50% xp for 1 hour, to buy 5 of these will cost you £8. £8 for 5 hours of +50% xp.

There's also one for crafting, for 50% more magic items, and a few other types of +xp ones, including one that gives you 100% more xp on your next kill within 30 seconds, reseting the timer on every kill.

These are the kind of items i expect to see in RF online cash shops, or perfect world game cash shops.

I do not expect to see these kind of items in a game charges £60 for the inital purchase. Ripoff.

GW2 is a F2P cash shop game that charges you a lot to buy inital game.

It is a F2P MMO but, the initial cost associated with developing an AAA MMO is quiet a lot and the you $60 is necessary to cover that. Most other F2P asian MMOs only cost a fraction of Guild War 2 to develop. Not talking about P2P games than went F2P.

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  cinos

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7/21/12 2:31:07 PM#44
Originally posted by Vidir
Originally posted by lathaan

why would you care? if you arent interested and got lots of time - dont buy it. its not that anyone has an advantage when lvling faster than you ;)

 Since you can buy a crafting boost it will make crafting for people that dont pay meaningless.

One thing is xp bonus since most people dont care if other people are first to reach max level,but if you can buy a bonus for your crafting skill to get more magical stuff then that is scruwed imo.

Do you even know what 'magical stuff' is?

There is a 'magic find' boost which increases the chances of rare drops by 50%.

There is a 'crafting exp' boost which increases the chances of getting bonus exp by 50% when crafting an item.

There is no bonus you can buy for your crafting skill to get more magical items. You have gotten the wrong end of the stick somewhere.

  Torvaldr

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7/21/12 2:31:38 PM#45
Originally posted by Searias
Originally posted by evemaster00

+50% xp for 1 hour, to buy 5 of these will cost you £8. £8 for 5 hours of +50% xp.

There's also one for crafting, for 50% more magic items, and a few other types of +xp ones, including one that gives you 100% more xp on your next kill within 30 seconds, reseting the timer on every kill.

These are the kind of items i expect to see in RF online cash shops, or perfect world game cash shops.

I do not expect to see these kind of items in a game charges £60 for the inital purchase. Ripoff.

GW2 is a F2P cash shop game that charges you a lot to buy inital game.

It is a F2P MMO but, the initial cost associated with developing an AAA MMO is quiet a lot and the you $60 is necessary to cover that. Most other F2P asian MMOs only cost a fraction of Guild War 2 to develop. Not talking about P2P games than went F2P.

I can see this perspective, but I think it might be a little overblown.  Some of the F2P games coming out now look and play great.  I can see an up front fee for Guild Wars, but $60 seems high.  If it was $10 - 20 or more but then came with game cash or a booster pack then it would make more sense to me.

I'm sure they're just going for the initial revenue boost and that it will eventually go on sale.  Guild Wars did and now you can get nearly the entire game for $20 or so.

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  rutaq

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7/21/12 2:34:59 PM#46
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by rutaq
Originally posted by Aelious
Unlike any other game GW2 does not give you an advantages for being higher level so the xp mods are like cosmetic items. They are there for the people who want them, not need them.

 

I just played for about 8 hours and thankful 7 of those hours were in WVW.  

 

Just to clairify the rumors and misinformantion....Your character's level directly impacts your ability to use different weapons and skills.  As you level you unlock more abilities and powers.    Your Hitpoints and inital damage output is normalized in PvP but thats it,  the unlocks through levelling your character make you even tougher, higher damage, higher survivability, faster, more versitle, etc...

 

So levelling faster using the item shop  is an advantage that directly impacts PvP. 

 

 

Not PvP - WvW.

And what happens when everyone naturally reach lvl 80.

And what happens in that siege assault that involves 100+ people, using cannons, arrow carts and other siege engines that don't care about your real level?

WvW - is warfare. Warfare isn't balanced per Anet own design. But WvW isn't pay to win.

 

So calling it Play to Win may have be a bit extreme but you are paying for something that has an impact to player versue player in WvW. 

As I experienced first hand...  a Higher level player in WvW is much tougher than a lower level character even with auto promotion to 80.

The Item shop lets you buy items to level faster thus you can buy in game power until everyone in the game hits max level.  

You may not care about buying an advantage but obviously many people do, thus the complaining on the forums.

  User Deleted
7/21/12 2:35:26 PM#47
Originally posted by Zezda

This might seem strange to you but those items are insignificant because bonus xp and bonus magic find etc hardly give you any benefit aside from making things go a little quicker. They don't help you clear content and they don't help you in PvP.

But then if you had spent more than 30 seconds playing the game and paying attention you would have noticed this.

This may be the best definition of "not pay2win" I've seen so far. 

  Searias

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7/21/12 2:39:33 PM#48
Originally posted by Torvaldr

I can see this perspective, but I think it might be a little overblown.  Some of the F2P games coming out now look and play great.  I can see an up front fee for Guild Wars, but $60 seems high.  If it was $10 - 20 or more but then came with game cash or a booster pack then it would make more sense to me.

I'm sure they're just going for the initial revenue boost and that it will eventually go on sale.  Guild Wars did and now you can get nearly the entire game for $20 or so.

$60 is high? You pay that same amount for console games which only last for about 10 to 20 hours :P. Are MMO gamers on Welfare or something? J/k lol.

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  thinktank001

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7/21/12 2:54:57 PM#49

GW1 was B2P.  You bought it and played.

 

GW2 is P2W.  You buy it and buy everything else from the cash shop.  Nothing wrong with it being this way.  It is just a different payment model.

 

 

  wormed

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7/21/12 3:00:58 PM#50

Definitely don't regret cancelling my prepurchase and getting my money back.

  Torvaldr

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7/21/12 3:02:17 PM#51
Originally posted by Searias
Originally posted by Torvaldr

I can see this perspective, but I think it might be a little overblown.  Some of the F2P games coming out now look and play great.  I can see an up front fee for Guild Wars, but $60 seems high.  If it was $10 - 20 or more but then came with game cash or a booster pack then it would make more sense to me.

I'm sure they're just going for the initial revenue boost and that it will eventually go on sale.  Guild Wars did and now you can get nearly the entire game for $20 or so.

$60 is high? You pay that same amount for console games which only last for about 10 to 20 hours :P. Are MMO gamers on Welfare or something? J/k lol.

Except this isn't a console game.  That platform isn't relevant.  There are problems with that platform as well, but it's not for this discussion.

As I said there are quality F2P games coming down the pipe now.  What reason does ANet have for justifying the $60 price tag for nothing.  I didn't say an up front fee isn't warranted at all, but that, at that price point, it should come with game cash and items, or it should be cheaper.

We will have to watch if other upcoming F2P offerings (RaiderZ, NWO, PS2, EQNext, etc) can provide that spark of competition and force a price reduction or not.  Also it will be interesting to see how NCSoft starts to publish its upcoming titles.  Will Wildstar be F2P, B2P, or P2P?  How about Blade and Soul.  The next year or so will prove interesting.

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  Vesavius

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7/21/12 3:06:48 PM#52
Originally posted by evemaster00

+50% xp for 1 hour, to buy 5 of these will cost you £8. £8 for 5 hours of +50% xp.

There's also one for crafting, for 50% more magic items, and a few other types of +xp ones, including one that gives you 100% more xp on your next kill within 30 seconds, reseting the timer on every kill.

These are the kind of items i expect to see in RF online cash shops, or perfect world game cash shops.

I do not expect to see these kind of items in a game charges £60 for the inital purchase. Ripoff.

GW2 is a F2P cash shop game that charges you a lot to buy inital game.

 

Yes it IS a cash shop game that charges you for the client. No one would (sensibly) argue that.

BUT, you know what makes it ok? Aside from it not also charging for a sub, like TSW or something does?

The game is designed to make those boosters not required

They will only be for the super ADHD. Levelling for the normal player is very balanced. I personally feel no need to race you to level in a PvE game, thus I will not be buying them.

Secondly, all in the cash shop can be bought with in game effort. It is play to achieve, not pay to achieve, if you choose it to be. That is a key word btw... CHOICE.

 

In fact, the very point that everything in the cash shop can be obtained through play makes it tolerable even for a cash shop hater like me.

I still would prefer to pay a sub, sure, but the model in place for this game does a pretty good job at keeping both camps happy I think.

  cinos

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7/21/12 3:10:48 PM#53
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Searias
Originally posted by Torvaldr

I can see this perspective, but I think it might be a little overblown.  Some of the F2P games coming out now look and play great.  I can see an up front fee for Guild Wars, but $60 seems high.  If it was $10 - 20 or more but then came with game cash or a booster pack then it would make more sense to me.

I'm sure they're just going for the initial revenue boost and that it will eventually go on sale.  Guild Wars did and now you can get nearly the entire game for $20 or so.

$60 is high? You pay that same amount for console games which only last for about 10 to 20 hours :P. Are MMO gamers on Welfare or something? J/k lol.

Except this isn't a console game.  That platform isn't relevant.  There are problems with that platform as well, but it's not for this discussion.

As I said there are quality F2P games coming down the pipe now.  What reason does ANet have for justifying the $60 price tag for nothing.  I didn't say an up front fee isn't warranted at all, but that, at that price point, it should come with game cash and items, or it should be cheaper.

We will have to watch if other upcoming F2P offerings (RaiderZ, NWO, PS2, EQNext, etc) can provide that spark of competition and force a price reduction or not.  Also it will be interesting to see how NCSoft starts to publish its upcoming titles.  Will Wildstar be F2P, B2P, or P2P?  How about Blade and Soul.  The next year or so will prove interesting.

What?

Sometimes this forum really astounds me.

You get a heck of a lot of game for $60. If you don't see value in that then there is little hope. To say you get nothing for $60 is just down right ridiculous.

  Amjoco

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7/21/12 3:22:57 PM#54
Originally posted by cinos
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Searias
Originally posted by Torvaldr

I can see this perspective, but I think it might be a little overblown.  Some of the F2P games coming out now look and play great.  I can see an up front fee for Guild Wars, but $60 seems high.  If it was $10 - 20 or more but then came with game cash or a booster pack then it would make more sense to me.

I'm sure they're just going for the initial revenue boost and that it will eventually go on sale.  Guild Wars did and now you can get nearly the entire game for $20 or so.

$60 is high? You pay that same amount for console games which only last for about 10 to 20 hours :P. Are MMO gamers on Welfare or something? J/k lol.

Except this isn't a console game.  That platform isn't relevant.  There are problems with that platform as well, but it's not for this discussion.

As I said there are quality F2P games coming down the pipe now.  What reason does ANet have for justifying the $60 price tag for nothing.  I didn't say an up front fee isn't warranted at all, but that, at that price point, it should come with game cash and items, or it should be cheaper.

We will have to watch if other upcoming F2P offerings (RaiderZ, NWO, PS2, EQNext, etc) can provide that spark of competition and force a price reduction or not.  Also it will be interesting to see how NCSoft starts to publish its upcoming titles.  Will Wildstar be F2P, B2P, or P2P?  How about Blade and Soul.  The next year or so will prove interesting.

What?

Sometimes this forum really astounds me.

You get a heck of a lot of game for $60. If you don't see value in that then there is little hope. To say you get nothing for $60 is just down right ridiculous.

The forum doesn't astound me, it's the ludicrous responses that people give that astounds me. I believe if most of the people in this forum were sitting around a huge conversational round table, 98% would be sitting with dunce caps on and facing the wrong direction. 

I agree with you, this game gives way more entertainment value than any other game out right now. Especially when you consider the quality of the game compared to other AAA games out already. 

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  cyraeth

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Joined: 7/20/12
Posts: 52

A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the crowd.

7/21/12 3:25:59 PM#55

Remember that unlike most MMORPGS  guild wars 2 developers made the game so you actually enjoy the road to max level..... rushing that journey seems stupid to me, in this game ive never felt the preasure of time pushing me to become max level as quick as i can, in GW2 the real game doesnt start at max level (like most) it start from the very beginning. the story is good (not the best, but i still wanna follow it) the events are great (dont wanna miss one) the exploration is superb and pvp is one of the best out there. due to this i dont see any reason why you would like to rush yourself to high level.... competitive pvp (all same gear)... WvW instant max level (not skill tho but you can unlock your favorites by lvl 25) ..... gear (not a big issue in this game)....

the only reason i see for getting these items is - rushing and burning yopurself to max level without enjoing the ride-

or maybe... to safe yourself time if your not a hardcore gamer.. let say you can only play a couple of hours a week, then this items would help you to keep a solid phase...

and lastly, with the implementation of level degrading and sidekick system.. buying these cash shops items just seem like a big stupidity unless your a workaholic.

  Atlan99

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Joined: 8/07/08
Posts: 1355

7/21/12 3:53:22 PM#56

The only one I can see being really useful is the Crafting Xp Bonus one. Just because if you gather all the right materials you can bang out a ton of stuff in not time flat.

Maybe the Magic Find at "end game" to make it easier to get certain items for crafting.

  User Deleted
7/21/12 6:07:48 PM#57

What I see most of all with these cash shop objections are people that want to keep up with the Jones' but are either unable or unwilling to do so.

There are going to be players that will spend too much money to level up as fast as they can with XP boosts. Some people will not buy them ever. Is it really an issue?

Some people can afford to buy sports cars and some people can't. This is life. The big difference with GW2 is that you can get every cash shop item in game if you want to. It might include some extra work to do so, but that is expected.

If these things are such large issues. Stay away from the game. I really do not want to play with unhappy people that try to project their displeasure onto me. I promise you I will not spend my time trying to convince you that your favorite games are terrible.

I might add my reasons for not enjoying a game now and then when discussion is warranted, but it will never be my mission to convert others.

  User Deleted
7/21/12 6:12:32 PM#58
Originally posted by Comae13
Originally posted by evemaster00

+50% xp for 1 hour, to buy 5 of these will cost you £8. £8 for 5 hours of +50% xp.

There's also one for crafting, for 50% more magic items, and a few other types of +xp ones, including one that gives you 100% more xp on your next kill within 30 seconds, reseting the timer on every kill.

These are the kind of items i expect to see in RF online cash shops, or perfect world game cash shops.

I do not expect to see these kind of items in a game charges £60 for the inital purchase. Ripoff.

GW2 is a F2P cash shop game that charges you a lot to buy inital game.

 

And you're right.

Thats another disgrace to the mmorpg, why dont make a sub and give the bonus when you make a quest ?

What a shame.

true . if it was not in gw1 .why it is in  gw2 ? companies are getting greedy .

  Rollcage8

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Joined: 3/29/12
Posts: 62

7/21/12 6:19:55 PM#59

If you bother to remember there "endgame" consists of an EXP bar that never ends that awards tokens towards vanity "legendary" items. Then add to the equation that there are EXP potions for sale.

 

I'm sorry arena net did a total back stab with that system, there "anti-grind" policy is basically balony now. 

You CANNOT sell EXP pots and claim your game isn't a grind, its hypocrisy. 

Most of the game is a well concealed grind, from dye potions to legendary items to "random DEs" that are basically attempting to cover up the idea of "endless killing of things". Centaurs burning the town down loses its luster when you realise your there to kill things over and over. 

I personally am attempting to get my refund after this final weekend.

  Gaia_Hunter

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Joined: 5/04/12
Posts: 2584

7/21/12 6:41:56 PM#60
Originally posted by Rollcage8

If you bother to remember there "endgame" consists of an EXP bar that never ends that awards tokens towards vanity "legendary" items. Then add to the equation that there are EXP potions for sale.

 

I'm sorry arena net did a total back stab with that system, there "anti-grind" policy is basically balony now. 

You CANNOT sell EXP pots and claim your game isn't a grind, its hypocrisy. 

Most of the game is a well concealed grind, from dye potions to legendary items to "random DEs" that are basically attempting to cover up the idea of "endless killing of things". Centaurs burning the town down loses its luster when you realise your there to kill things over and over. 

I personally am attempting to get my refund after this final weekend.

They never claimed isn't grindy.

They claimed you don't need to grind to reach the interesting bits.

They claimed that the grind doesn't make you more powerfull.

They claimed that grind is optional.

And GW2 is true to those statements.

The problem is you have been conditioned to see MMORPGs in a certain way so to you XP = power, rarer weapons=higher stats=power.

You not going to get any refund because you didn't buy GW2. That is why you don't know XP award skill points every time you level and once you are level 80 you get a skill point and no level when your XP bar fills. If you played GW2 you would know that kills XP (which are the pots ones) are laughable compared to events XP. You would know Guilds could research XP boosts that last for days affect event XP.

Currently playing: GW2
Cooperative (semi cooperative)board games you should check: Pandemic, Sentinels of the Multiverse, Eldritch Horror, Descent 2.0,Level 7 Omega Protocol, Last Night on Earth

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