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  Airtaee

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OP  7/17/12 11:02:38 PM#1

 

Have you noticed now when you log,  the game launcher says about available enviorenments? Well many people says its a bug  about Test Center and Normal servers... Here is my bet.

 

EA will create a multigame plataform for all their monthly fee games (read SWTOR, WAR, UO, DAOC  and  maybe TSW) and merge the time you can play any of them in a unique former pass time, pretty like the SONY  STATION PASS.

You will pay the 15$ and could play any of their games, so they can make up their shitty numbers, saying they have a player base of X (not revealing how many belongs to each game).

Also this move will bring new life to his dying games, as people will think his 15 $ now worth much more as can be wasted in multiple games.

 

This is my prediction, lets the time go and see. If not, stills a good idea and EA should make me their new CEO because I'm sure this will work pretty well.

  SaintPhilip

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7/17/12 11:08:55 PM#2

That is a prety interesting theory, one I had'nt thought about.

Honestly it would be a pretty good move and iit would NOT surprise me to see something like this bt Years end... Hell for $15-$20 month for their collection of games to play- It would actually be worth it.

Interesting to see how this plays out but it would help them "save face" by NOT having to go F2P. I am not being a "hater" either but TSW isnt going to do well with a sub- Not a bad game but nothing most people would sub to for more than a few months from what I have experienced.

  ktanner3

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7/17/12 11:23:17 PM#3

That's not a bad idea and it makes total sense.  If memory serves SOE charged a little more for the station  pass ($20-25 dollars) than the normal monthly fee.  I never did it because I was never interested in their other titles. 

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  Airtaee

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OP  7/17/12 11:32:58 PM#4

It reduces costs, all different time cards will be just one, time cards for games now forgotten like WAR will be at stores again.

They will not lost any money as I higly doubt anyone is paying different subs for their games. Can't imagine a single person in the world paying for WAR and SWTOR. I can barely think in a person really wanting to pay for SWTOR but there are...

lso will fight the MMO borefdom syndrome, as you can switch from game to game to refresh your mind (We must admit the main problem of EA games are the boredom it produces,( Im starting to get bored of TSW and is just 3 weeks since launch...)

 

Danm! is o good idea that I will come back and buy one of those passes just to see how my 2009 Ironbreaker dwarf is,( but only if it includes The Secret World, the game I'm actually playing).

  gervaise1

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7/18/12 4:46:03 AM#5

Can't see multi-game scenario; this was discussed post-WAR and never happened. Not saying it won't but.

What I could see would be dropping the monthly sub and replacing it by paid for DLC. This would bring SWTOR in line with several other EA titles.

Going to be hard though. EA said 500k to cover costs - and I always assumed - make an operating profit of 60% (not to be confused with making a profit). Now I assume that was based on keeping the team to ensure quarterly (or whatever) content drops, monthy tweaks and so forth. Even getting rid of the team though and taking a lower profit the number suggests that LA get something.

In fact the whole "new approach" thing was discussed after the launch of WAR.

  Bardus

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7/18/12 8:53:38 AM#6

If they do something like this, we'll never know what actual sub numbers are .

It does make sense to me and might actually be the 1st smart anything they've done.

  Veldekar

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7/18/12 8:57:18 AM#7
Originally posted by ktanner3

That's not a bad idea and it makes total sense.  If memory serves SOE charged a little more for the station  pass ($20-25 dollars) than the normal monthly fee.  I never did it because I was never interested in their other titles. 

Not sure what it is now, but a few years ago I was subscribed to station pass and it was 29.95(USD) per month.

  Bardus

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7/18/12 9:07:50 AM#8
Originally posted by Veldekar
Originally posted by ktanner3

That's not a bad idea and it makes total sense.  If memory serves SOE charged a little more for the station  pass ($20-25 dollars) than the normal monthly fee.  I never did it because I was never interested in their other titles. 

Not sure what it is now, but a few years ago I was subscribed to station pass and it was 29.95(USD) per month.

It's been $20/mo since announcing SWG closing. Kinda doubt they add Planetside2 to it anytime soon unless it major flops.

  Dreamo84

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7/18/12 1:36:56 PM#9

TSW is a Funcom game. So if anything it would become part of an AoC, AO, and TSW package.

  BeansnBread

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7/18/12 1:38:56 PM#10
Originally posted by Bardus
Originally posted by Veldekar
Originally posted by ktanner3

That's not a bad idea and it makes total sense.  If memory serves SOE charged a little more for the station  pass ($20-25 dollars) than the normal monthly fee.  I never did it because I was never interested in their other titles. 

Not sure what it is now, but a few years ago I was subscribed to station pass and it was 29.95(USD) per month.

It's been $20/mo since announcing SWG closing. Kinda doubt they add Planetside2 to it anytime soon unless it major flops.

Planetside 2 is F2P.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  MMOSavant

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7/18/12 1:39:08 PM#11
Originally posted by Airtaee

 

Have you noticed now when you log,  the game launcher says about available enviorenments? Well many people says its a bug  about Test Center and Normal servers... Here is my bet.

 

EA will create a multigame plataform for all their monthly fee games (read SWTOR, WAR, UO, DAOC  and  maybe TSW) and merge the time you can play any of them in a unique former pass time, pretty like the SONY  STATION PASS.

You will pay the 15$ and could play any of their games, so they can make up their shitty numbers, saying they have a player base of X (not revealing how many belongs to each game).

Also this move will bring new life to his dying games, as people will think his 15 $ now worth much more as can be wasted in multiple games.

 

This is my prediction, lets the time go and see. If not, stills a good idea and EA should make me their new CEO because I'm sure this will work pretty well.

 

I hope you're right because i've played all those games but apart from UO never stuck with any of them for long. I prefer dipping in and out of different mmos when I have time, so i'd rather not sub to more than at least one at a time. The SOE model (I used to play EQ EQII, Vanguard and SWG at the same time) suits me fine. 

  Effin_Rabbit

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This Rabbit stinks!

7/18/12 1:45:10 PM#12

Didnt one of the higher-ups at EA make a statement saying pretty much all their titles were going to be f2p with item shops for each of them? I wonder if that includes single player games... I cant find a link, maybe someone can help me.

  BeansnBread

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7/18/12 1:47:30 PM#13
Originally posted by Darth-Batman

Didnt one of the higher-ups at EA make a statement saying pretty much all their titles were going to be f2p with item shops for each of them? I wonder if that includes single player games... I cant find a link, maybe someone can help me.

Is this it?

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/21/eas-peter-moore-free-to-play-is-an-inevitability

 

Edit: Here is the original, full fledged article.

http://kotaku.com/5919847/the-strange-scary-fascinating-exciting-future-of-video-games-according-to-a-giant

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

7/18/12 9:34:09 PM#14

According to this latest arcticle John Riccitielo says they are exploring "different models", implying not F2P, although does not say it will not be F2P, but they may not be able to take it F2P due to LA, hence the avoidance of the subject

"Riccitiello also chimed in on the recent report that BioWare was considering adopting a free-to-play business model for The Old Republic. He confirmed that EA is exploring "different models to bring more users into the game," but stopped short of saying such a change was in fact in the cards.

 

  mklinic

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7/18/12 9:41:56 PM#15

Well, it would be ironic if the followed the SOE model. I mean, they had SWG and Station Pass. EA could have SWTOR and...Origin Pass (maybe?). Then, all EA needs to do is over haul the game, add a TCG, ???, profit! :D

Kidding aside, SOE has been embracing 'F2P' more as time has gone on. I'm sure they've been monitoring them and other publishers to gauge whether it makes sense. I mean, regardless of what anyone might think about their level of commitment to their portfolio of games, I think we can all agree their level of commitment to profits is pretty high ;)

-mklinic

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  Top_Quark

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7/18/12 9:58:15 PM#16

I doubt it.

If they charge 15 a month for all their MMOs (all 2 of them) then they would lose money.

If they charged 20+ a month for all their MMOs they would lose subscribers because all their other MMOs are dead

  rdrakken

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7/18/12 10:05:01 PM#17
Originally posted by Airtaee

 You will pay the 15$ and could play any of their games

 I still wouldnt pay it.

Maybe if it was $5...maybe...for a while...perhaps...if you didnt have to buy the games first.

  hikaru77

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Joined: 3/28/07
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7/18/12 10:09:04 PM#18
Originally posted by Airtaee

 

Have you noticed now when you log,  the game launcher says about available enviorenments? Well many people says its a bug  about Test Center and Normal servers... Here is my bet.

 

EA will create a multigame plataform for all their monthly fee games (read SWTOR, WAR, UO, DAOC  and  maybe TSW) and merge the time you can play any of them in a unique former pass time, pretty like the SONY  STATION PASS.

You will pay the 15$ and could play any of their games, so they can make up their shitty numbers, saying they have a player base of X (not revealing how many belongs to each game).

Also this move will bring new life to his dying games, as people will think his 15 $ now worth much more as can be wasted in multiple games.

 

This is my prediction, lets the time go and see. If not, stills a good idea and EA should make me their new CEO because I'm sure this will work pretty well.

They already have origin as a multigame plataform, swtor is there.

  Airtaee

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Joined: 12/05/05
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OP  7/18/12 10:13:36 PM#19
Originally posted by Top_Quark

I doubt it.

If they charge 15 a month for all their MMOs (all 2 of them) then they would lose money.

If they charged 20+ a month for all their MMOs they would lose subscribers because all their other MMOs are dead

Er...actually their Origin Store is selling time cards for :

WAR

DAoC

UO

SWTOR 

and are distibuting :

RIFT

THE SECRET WORLD

(Just checked their Origin thing)

Think is not other thing but a way to make up their results merging all their revenues in one cash flow without the need to tell where the money comes from.

  aRtFuLThinG

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7/18/12 10:25:23 PM#20
Originally posted by Top_Quark

I doubt it.

If they charge 15 a month for all their MMOs (all 2 of them) then they would lose money.

If they charged 20+ a month for all their MMOs they would lose subscribers because all their other MMOs are dead

I'm interested to know how you come to the conclusion that they would lose money.

Why I see your logic flawed:

1. People who are subscribed to any one of those games currently (TOR, WAR or whatever one th've been playing) are still going to be subscribed - having the ability to play the other games too doesn't affect them one bit; in fact, it might benefit and encourages them as they have something else to play during their bored times.

2. It cost them no extra to have a bit more players playing on their underpopulated servers. In fact, it makes their game looks better because they can disguise the true population/subscription numbers for each game.

3. This makes it LOOK like it is better value for customer so obviously will ended up attracting a bigger player base of their mmos, at no extra cost of running their server (unless the deal is super-popular, but I highly doubt that).

I think it is a smart business move if they are going that direction.

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