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  nomatics856

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OP  7/15/12 9:16:00 AM#1

There is no hard to get equipment or loot, or powerful hard to get loot and every one has a easy chance of having the best gear, and dungeons dont drop rare gear.

Kinda worries me., that no one wants to work to get good gear.

  User Deleted
7/15/12 9:17:17 AM#2

Have you read about the legendary weapons?

PS: and no, it doesn't surprise me that people don't want to "work" in a video game - they want "fun" ;)

  nomatics856

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OP  7/15/12 9:18:11 AM#3
Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Have you read about the legendary weapons?

They are cosmetic only.

  User Deleted
7/15/12 9:20:07 AM#4
Originally posted by nomatics856
Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Have you read about the legendary weapons?

They are cosmetic only.

Ah yes, of course, if you want a gear grind like e.g. WoW, where the only way to play is to own the latest tier of PvE or PvP gear, you're in for a deception. There's no gear that makes you magically better than everyone else in GW2.

  Geobardi

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7/15/12 9:21:22 AM#5

You are underestimating the need of looking cool. Yes, it's possible to have the best gear (in numbers) easily, but nobody wants to look like a noob with those gears, everyone is going to hunt the sets that they like and the most cool-looking armor is not going to be easy to get.

  Bad.dog

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7/15/12 9:22:03 AM#6
Originally posted by nomatics856

There is no hard to get equipment or loot, or powerful hard to get loot and every one has a easy chance of having the best gear, and dungeons dont drop rare gear.

Kinda worries me., that no one wants to work to get good gear.

Where did you come up with this ?

  wnunes

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7/15/12 9:22:38 AM#7

Do people know that itens in Gw2 have Stats?

 

It´s NOT cosmetic. The difference is that a person with legendary equips will not one hit other player with green or blue equips, But YES, they will be more powerful.

  Geobardi

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7/15/12 9:30:43 AM#8
Originally posted by wnunes

Do people know that itens in Gw2 have Stats?

 

It´s NOT cosmetic. The difference is that a person with legendary equips will not one hit other player with green or blue equips, But YES, they will be more powerful.

When people say that GW2 gear and weapons are cosmetic is not because they don't have stats, it's because all the armor and weapons of the same level have the same defense-attack numbers, the only change is in the stats they supply, for example, one armor can be 32 defense +15 power, and another one of the same level will be 32 defense +15 vitality, the real difference is achieved by adding gems and runes to the armor, and the most powerful ones can be obtained killing some meta-event bosses and in the dungeons. The legendary items have the same stats as a normal weapon of the same level, the only difference is that they are difficult to obtain and have an unique appearance.

  User Deleted
7/15/12 9:33:18 AM#9
Originally posted by wnunes

Do people know that itens in Gw2 have Stats?

 

It´s NOT cosmetic. The difference is that a person with legendary equips will not one hit other player with green or blue equips, But YES, they will be more powerful.

Nope, legendary weapons are not more powerful than "normal" (epic) gear.

  wnunes

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7/15/12 9:36:41 AM#10

They have the same lv if they are using the same type of gear.

 

There is a progression. blue - Green - Orange. ( it has more colors)

 

This kind, so its not THAT cosmetic, and its not easy to obtain an Orange equip

 

IT requires 60-80 badges to aquire ONE equip in the WvWvW.

  wnunes

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7/15/12 9:38:21 AM#11
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by wnunes

Do people know that itens in Gw2 have Stats?

 

It´s NOT cosmetic. The difference is that a person with legendary equips will not one hit other player with green or blue equips, But YES, they will be more powerful.

Nope, legendary weapons are not more powerful than "normal" (epic) gear.

I´m not saying that they are.

 

I compared them with green and blue equips.

  BeansnBread

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7/15/12 9:39:08 AM#12

Is this the color coding for items in this game?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Item

 

 
Quality name Item color
Junk Gray
Common White
Fine Blue
Masterwork Green
Rare Yellow
Exotic Orange
Legendary Red
Mystic Purple
 
 
I figure there is a tier at which stats stop going up on gear. Am I incorrect about this? Can someone explain exactly how this works?
 
 
 
 
 

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  MortisRex

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7/15/12 9:39:18 AM#13
Originally posted by nomatics856

There is no hard to get equipment or loot, or powerful hard to get loot and every one has a easy chance of having the best gear, and dungeons dont drop rare gear.

Kinda worries me., that no one wants to work to get good gear.

I really think this entire post needs to be rephrased. We both know that there is hard to get equipment and loot. Dungeons do drop rare gear. Your problem is that the items do not give you an advantage over others. Let's be honest here, that is your complaint. Almost any other mmorpg  feed your need to dominate others through gear, why not play one of them? Quite frankly, I hope GW2 stays true and allows player skill to trump gear.

  User Deleted
7/15/12 9:40:46 AM#14
Originally posted by wnunes

They have the same lv if they are using the same type of gear.

 

There is a progression. blue - Green - Orange. ( it has more colors)

 

This kind, so its not THAT cosmetic, and its not easy to obtain an Orange equip

 

IT requires 60-80 badges to aquire ONE equip in the WvWvW.

The best level 80 items are obtainable through, PvP, PvE (solo or group), crafting. The legendary items won't be more powerful, they will just have a badass apparence.

Yeah there's a "color code" progression, but there are no gear tiers. Once you have the best stats, any new gear you get will be purely cosmetical, and won't make you even more powerful. It's not like WoW where every new raid tier or PvP season makes the previous gear obsolete.

  Dfix

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Posts: 256

7/15/12 9:40:59 AM#15

It's pretty simple really. In GW2 (like in GW1) you can tell who is the best not by the base gear that they are wearing, but by the skins they are wearing.

Think of it as if when you hit max level in your current MMO you could go to an NPC and buy the best gear. Now you go and do some end game events and get the gear skins and wear them. People now know that you have done the event. When a new event is put into the game there will be new gear skins for that event. Now you do that event for the skins so you can stand around looking cool in that gear.

Everyone knows the content you have done by the gear skins you are wearing. You just have to change your thinking a bit to realize it's the same thing.

Vivik-Cerberus

  User Deleted
7/15/12 9:48:24 AM#16
Originally posted by colddog04
 
Quality name Item color
Junk Gray
Common White
Fine Blue
Masterwork Green
Rare Yellow
Exotic Orange
Legendary Red
Mystic Purple
 
 
 

Ah that's the chart I was looking for.

Note that at level 20ish, I started being fully decked with Masterwork weapons on my Warrior, without even trying.

  BeansnBread

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Posts: 5547

7/15/12 9:49:38 AM#17
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by colddog04
 
Quality name Item color
Junk Gray
Common White
Fine Blue
Masterwork Green
Rare Yellow
Exotic Orange
Legendary Red
Mystic Purple
 
 
 

Ah that's the chart I was looking for.

Note that at level 20ish, I started being fully decked with Masterwork weapons on my Warrior, without even trying.

Yeah, I was crafting greens as well.

 

Is green pretty much the final tier in stats?

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  Takiton

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Posts: 76

7/15/12 9:50:07 AM#18

Weapons and armors were a huge motivating factor in GW1.  A few had situational stat advantages but primarily it was the appearance.  

It did not detract from the game for me.  You get the same feel of omg look at that guy when you see them in full obs armor as you do when you see somone with the omg they have the latest tier raid armor... oooohs and ahhhs can then insue.  TItles to a lesser degree, HOM (a place to house your weapon and armor achivements) was also nice.

  User Deleted
7/15/12 9:52:03 AM#19
Originally posted by colddog04
 

Is green pretty much the final tier in stats?

To be honest, nobody knows I think (except the closed beta testers maybe?).

EDIT: Here's a comparison between a level 32 masterwork and rare axe. Seems to be similar:

http://www.gw2db.com/data/items/48201-invaders-axe

http://www.gw2db.com/data/items/22336-ascalonian-axe-of-debility

  wnunes

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Joined: 8/25/11
Posts: 16

7/15/12 9:55:25 AM#20
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by wnunes

They have the same lv if they are using the same type of gear.

 

There is a progression. blue - Green - Orange. ( it has more colors)

 

This kind, so its not THAT cosmetic, and its not easy to obtain an Orange equip

 

IT requires 60-80 badges to aquire ONE equip in the WvWvW.

The best level 80 items are obtainable through, PvP, PvE (solo or group), crafting. The legendary items won't be more powerful, they will just have a badass apparence.

Yeah there's a "color code" progression, but there are no gear tiers. Once you have the best stats, any new gear you get will be purely cosmetical, and won't make you even more powerful. It's not like WoW where every new raid tier or PvP season makes the previous gear obsolete.

Where am i saying that is the same thing as WOW? haha

I´m only saying that gw2 HAS gear progression.

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