people really dont know how much GW2 is important to MMORPG players. a good indicator is this site and hits. even without game release he already have almost the same hits that SWTOR in "1 Year Section" 

this is just crazy, 3M sell at December will gonna be very easy to reach, im pretty sure.

omg, theres going to be wayyyyyyy too many people playing at launch!!! those servers better be better than what D3 had.

Originally posted by Epic1oots

omg, theres going to be wayyyyyyy too many people playing at launch!!! those servers better be better than what D3 had.

At least there is a good reason to have an online connection for playing in GW2. ;)

even before GW2 preorders were available, analysts were predicting 3.12 million sales for 2012

April 6, 2012 report

http://www.kdbdw.com/bbs/download/155585.pdf?attachmentId=155585

Guild Wars 2’s website has drawn 9 times more visitors than Aion’s
NCsofts Aion recorded 1.5mn CD sales in the US and Europe in 2009. Guild Wars
1s CD sales volume exceeded 7mn over the last three years. After comparing the
number of unique visitors to the Aion website in 2009 (in the two months before
the pre-sale) to the number of unique visitors to the Guild Wars 2 website, we
found that the number of visitors to the Guild Wars 2 website (178,000) has far
exceeded the Aion figure (21,000). As such, we believe that Guild Wars 2 CD sales
are highly likely to surpass Aions. We assume that Guild Wars 2 CD sales in the
US and Europe will reach 3.12mn in 2012.
 

I know next to nothing about GW2 and I'm not even going to buy it, but if it's polished enough, has a good endgame, the ride is nice and they can produce quality expansions with a decent pace, then I see no reason why it couldn't dethrone that certain game.

And before someone points out that GW2 doesn't compete with p2p games, of course it does. There's only so many hours in a day.

Originally posted by gaeanprayer

I sort of doubt that, the number is a little high even for a game that has this many people excited. I think at this point, the majority of the people that are interested in the game have already purchased it. There's no reason not to, especially with a release date set and not very far off.

Now 3.1mill ~eventually~? Yeah, I'll give him that. The first one sold 7mill and it's not half the game GW2 is. 1mill pre-orders is a pretty awesome start. 1mill x $60 minimum (not including those who purchased collector's/deluxe) is sexy. Explains why they're already so gung-ho about working on the expansion even before the game is out.

Pre-purchase a game with no release date announced a couple of weeks ago or buy Diablo 3 and whatnot?

Additionally the 900K number is not an official number.

Yea sure. It is not some super awesome Blizzard game, just another low budget mmo

Originally posted by William12

SWTOR had what 1m US preorders not counting digital downloads or more ?

GW2 is 5 and half weeks from launch and it only has a fraction of that right now.    I'm sorry, but this game wont come close to 3m right away.  If its a hit and a great game you can bet it will get there but right away ?  no chance.   Also the 1 mil preorders is worldwide no one cares about world wide tell us the NA/Europe numbers because they fall short right now.

im sorry.  this game is going to dwarf SWTOR's numbers by December.  

Wait... you couldnt "preorder" Aion 4 years ago.... not even in Korea.

Either way. Hes most likely refering to launch + remaining time till end of the fiscal year.

Word of mouth will keep the sales steady for GW2. Thats the plan. At worst they are actually going to advetise the game for once outside of the genre.

While overhyped trash brags with several "millions first day/first month sales" (aka preorders accumulated during months of hype and adertisement), yet doesnt sell shit due to negative feedback, broken promises, bad and cheap handling of the game and huge dissapointment like WoW Cata, SC2 or D3 which all fell flat on their noses. Massive hype, usal portion of false promises, huge sales and massive dissapointment once the player actually got to play them.

Originally posted by palulalula

Yea sure. It is not some super awesome Blizzard game, just another low budget mmo

loool. because diablo3 and WoW are indeed awesome games....LOOOOL

Originally posted by Sukiyaki

Wait... you couldnt "preorder" Aion 4 years ago.... not even in Korea.

the preorder for Aion for US/EU was available June 2009

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/253/view/news/page/10/read/14133/Aion-PreOrder-Program-Details.html

if you goto the april analyst report, the timelines are explained in detail

http://www.kdbdw.com/bbs/download/155585.pdf?attachmentId=155585

I don't see anyway GW2 hits those kind of numbers at launch. Not even close. I don't think it will even break 2 million at launch.

Having said that I expect it to hit close to that number over it's lifetime.

Originally posted by p_c_sousa

Originally posted by palulalula

Yea sure. It is not some super awesome Blizzard game, just another low budget mmo

loool. because diablo3 and WoW are indeed awesome games....LOOOOL

you can't really argue against WoW.  just look at the numbers.  it may be boring now to a lot of people (myself included)  but you can't say it's not a good game.

Originally posted by Mexorilla

Originally posted by p_c_sousa

Originally posted by palulalula

Yea sure. It is not some super awesome Blizzard game, just another low budget mmo

loool. because diablo3 and WoW are indeed awesome games....LOOOOL

you can't really argue against WoW.  just look at the numbers.  it may be boring now to a lot of people (myself included)  but you can't say it's not a good game.

WAS long time ago...now is far from be a good game and i stop playing 2 -3 years ago and seem keep be worse and worse with each new expansion.

3 million is obviously a modest estimate, I would not be surprised if they sell 5 million copies in the first couple of weeks. Just think of the following groups:

-people who played GW1

-people who believe the big hype

-people who are tired of WoW, SWTOR etc.

-people who are disappointed by TSW or TERA

-people who are stuck in Diablo 3 and look for something else

And all will think: "Hey, there is no monthly fee, I can just by it and try it, maybe it's a good game."

I will have to work every day the last weeks of August (no, not the common every day meaning 5 days a week, I literaly mean every day) and in September I will be on vacation, so I will buy it in October. This is perfect, because such I can stick to the rule "Always wait till one month after release, before you by a new MMO!"

Originally posted by Nadia

Originally posted by Sukiyaki

Wait... you couldnt "preorder" Aion 4 years ago.... not even in Korea.

the preorder for Aion for US/EU was available June 2009

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/253/view/news/page/10/read/14133/Aion-PreOrder-Program-Details.html

 

if you goto the april analyst report, the timelines are explained in detail

http://www.kdbdw.com/bbs/download/155585.pdf?attachmentId=155585

 

Unfortunately thats just barely above 3 years ago. Its not 4 years even if you want to round up generously. Its at best 3 years. Of course it was launched 4 years ago in Korea, but that and the preorders are two different things..

But either way NCSoft never reported more than 400k EU/NA "preorders" (and Korea didnt even have a "preorder" option). Only post launch sales at 960k. And they didnt accumulate all of those preorders in June 2009 either but not until shortly before launch 3 months later.

Unlike games relying majorly on hype and advertisment to lure in casuals from other genres or non-gamer and raise boxsales, NCSoft title have an evident history of remaining solid and successful games with few exceptions (ie TR), against all contrary claims and lies by random forum dweller. While overhyped games of other publisher like Blizzard are desperate to sell even half of their "launch records" (see SC2, WotLK, Cata, D3 only sold 45% more minus free handouts) within the next 3 -6 months after the hype and shiny cover faded off, all major NCSoft title like GW1 , Aion, L2, L1 all continued to double and even tripple the previous sales record within just 3 - 6 months. Thats real "word of mouth" not "word of PR deparment" advertising the game through all media channels. And we are talking about the Western market here.

Apllied to GW2: If they already have 1 Million preorders now, and probably 1.2-1.5 Million at launch. Its nowhere near impossible they might sell 3 Million 3-6 months.

Originally posted by Sukiyaki

Unfortunately thats hardly above 3 years ago. Its not 4 years even if you want to round up.

from the report:

"NCsofts Aion recorded 1.5mn CD sales in the US and Europe in 2009."

the report compares Aions website activity in 2009 to GW2 website activity in 2012

please quote the part of the report you have issues with

because I dont know why you refer to a 4 year period

Originally posted by Mahavishnu

And all will think: "Hey, there is no monthly fee, I can just by it and try it, maybe it's a good game."

Nailed me dead on with that one.

Originally posted by Mahavishnu

3 million is obviously a modest estimate, I would not be surprised if they sell 5 million copies in the first couple of weeks. Just think of the following groups:

-people who played GW1

-people who believe the big hype

-people who are tired of WoW, SWTOR etc.

-people who are disappointed by TSW or TERA

-people who are stuck in Diablo 3 and look for something else

And all will think: "Hey, there is no monthly fee, I can just by it and try it, maybe it's a good game."

 

I will have to work every day the last weeks of August (no, not the common every day meaning 5 days a week, I literaly mean every day) and in September I will be on vacation, so I will buy it in October. This is perfect, because such I can stick to the rule "Always wait till one month after release, before you by a new MMO!"

yeah this ^....../thread

there is no arguing "buy to play".  this game is a bohemoth and it can't/won't be stopped.  the rest of the industry is pretty much screwed.  even if people don't like it, after going back to WoW or whatever game, they will realize how much those games pale in comparison and either come back to gw2 or quit mmo's til TESO comes out.

Originally posted by William12

SWTOR had what 1m US preorders not counting digital downloads or more ?

GW2 is 5 and half weeks from launch and it only has a fraction of that right now.    I'm sorry, but this game wont come close to 3m right away.  If its a hit and a great game you can bet it will get there but right away ?  no chance.   Also the 1 mil preorders is worldwide no one cares about world wide tell us the NA/Europe numbers because they fall short right now.

Just to say, Gw2 already sold 1m preorders

http://www.guildwarsinsider.com/pre-order-figures-slip/

And its going to be further more when the BWE is over.