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  fundayz

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OP  7/14/12 4:11:15 PM#21
Originally posted by Vannor

If ANet follow their usual thing they will provide DLC type stuff for free (included in box price).. There was only one DLC thing for GW1 and was just some 'extra' lore missions that were not required to advance or be better in any way, everything else was included. I wouldn't be surprised if they already have tons of it lined up and ready to go as well. That's the practice these days. Don't release until you have a good amount of content already complete or almost complete for after launch. It makes them look good, we like it and it keeps the worlds evolving. Rift and now TSW (If they deliver) are prime examples of this. That stuff that's released, or planned to be released in TSW's case, on a monthly basis was definately being worked on before those games launched.

That applies for subscription games, not B2P.

You see, those games have to release content to justify paying $15+/month. Even if Anet released DLC at $30 every 3 months it would still be cheaper and more content than the vast majority of subscription MMOs.

In addition, since this time around the Cash Shop is significantly more endowed than GW1's ArenaNet could potentially release DLC at lower prices.

  colddog04

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7/14/12 4:18:36 PM#22
Originally posted by fundayz
Originally posted by Vannor

If ANet follow their usual thing they will provide DLC type stuff for free (included in box price).. There was only one DLC thing for GW1 and was just some 'extra' lore missions that were not required to advance or be better in any way, everything else was included. I wouldn't be surprised if they already have tons of it lined up and ready to go as well. That's the practice these days. Don't release until you have a good amount of content already complete or almost complete for after launch. It makes them look good, we like it and it keeps the worlds evolving. Rift and now TSW (If they deliver) are prime examples of this. That stuff that's released, or planned to be released in TSW's case, on a monthly basis was definately being worked on before those games launched.

That applies for subscription games, not B2P.

You see, those games have to release content to justify paying $15+/month. Even if Anet released DLC at $30 every 3 months it would still be cheaper and more content than the vast majority of subscription MMOs.

In addition, since this time around the Cash Shop is significantly more endowed than GW1's ArenaNet could potentially release DLC at lower prices.

Or, as will be the case in GW2, for free.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  Xzen

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7/14/12 4:18:50 PM#23

0 DLC and just full blown expansions once a year. If people want DLC I think Anet should just chop up their expansions into smaller bits and sell it to the people that want DLC a peice at a time for twice the cost of just buying the expansion.

  fenistil

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7/14/12 4:26:34 PM#24

DLC's would be good only if that would replace CS.

Expansions  + DLC + CS is too much.

 

Since CS exist then just full blown boxed expansions please.

  fundayz

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Joined: 10/14/10
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OP  7/14/12 4:30:19 PM#25
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by fundayz
Originally posted by Vannor

If ANet follow their usual thing they will provide DLC type stuff for free (included in box price).. There was only one DLC thing for GW1 and was just some 'extra' lore missions that were not required to advance or be better in any way, everything else was included. I wouldn't be surprised if they already have tons of it lined up and ready to go as well. That's the practice these days. Don't release until you have a good amount of content already complete or almost complete for after launch. It makes them look good, we like it and it keeps the worlds evolving. Rift and now TSW (If they deliver) are prime examples of this. That stuff that's released, or planned to be released in TSW's case, on a monthly basis was definately being worked on before those games launched.

That applies for subscription games, not B2P.

You see, those games have to release content to justify paying $15+/month. Even if Anet released DLC at $30 every 3 months it would still be cheaper and more content than the vast majority of subscription MMOs.

In addition, since this time around the Cash Shop is significantly more endowed than GW1's ArenaNet could potentially release DLC at lower prices.

Or, as will be the case in GW2, for free.

No, Anet has only said they'll be adding dynamic events for free, other content has not been confirmed. And that is fine considering the game doesn't require a subscription, meaning that even if we pay for DLC (of substance, not just like rehashed dungeons) it's still a better deal than almost all other MMO's.

 

 

Originally posted by fenistil

DLC's would be good only if that would replace CS.

Expansions  + DLC + CS is too much.

 

Since CS exist then just full blown boxed expansions please.

The cash shop doesn't provide content though. Wouldn't you rather have even more content that is optional for purchase to keep things new in between expansions?

  colddog04

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Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 4882

7/14/12 4:31:48 PM#26
Originally posted by fundayz
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by fundayz
Originally posted by Vannor

If ANet follow their usual thing they will provide DLC type stuff for free (included in box price).. There was only one DLC thing for GW1 and was just some 'extra' lore missions that were not required to advance or be better in any way, everything else was included. I wouldn't be surprised if they already have tons of it lined up and ready to go as well. That's the practice these days. Don't release until you have a good amount of content already complete or almost complete for after launch. It makes them look good, we like it and it keeps the worlds evolving. Rift and now TSW (If they deliver) are prime examples of this. That stuff that's released, or planned to be released in TSW's case, on a monthly basis was definately being worked on before those games launched.

That applies for subscription games, not B2P.

You see, those games have to release content to justify paying $15+/month. Even if Anet released DLC at $30 every 3 months it would still be cheaper and more content than the vast majority of subscription MMOs.

In addition, since this time around the Cash Shop is significantly more endowed than GW1's ArenaNet could potentially release DLC at lower prices.

Or, as will be the case in GW2, for free.

No, Anet has only said they'll be adding dynamic events for free, other content has not been confirmed. And that is fine considering the game doesn't require a subscription, meaning that even if we pay for DLC (of substance, not just like rehashed dungeons) it's still a better deal than almost all other MMO's.

No, ArenaNet has not said they will be releasing DLC.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  Nadia

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7/14/12 4:32:54 PM#27
Originally posted by Searias
"Mike O'Brien has stated that expansions and/or mini-expansions are more likely than standalone campaigns, but a final decision has not been made yet."
 

that quote was made 5 years ago in the pc gamer magazine April 2007 issue
but its probably still true

  fundayz

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Joined: 10/14/10
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OP  7/14/12 4:35:40 PM#28
Originally posted by colddog04

No, ArenaNet has not said they will be releasing DLC.

Uhh... I never said that. If you read my post carefully you should realize what I said was that nothing other than new dynamic events has been confirmed to be free.

Unless you have a link where Anet confirms they'll be adding other things like personal sidestory missions, lore missions, new dungeons, new pvp maps, etc for free?

 

 

Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by Searias
"Mike O'Brien has stated that expansions and/or mini-expansions are more likely than standalone campaigns, but a final decision has not been made yet."
 

that quote was made 5 years ago in the pc gamer magazine April 2007 issue
but its probably still true

Right, but we are not talking about standalone campaigns but DLC for the single game.

  Lord.Bachus

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7/14/12 4:42:40 PM#29
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by fundayz
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by fundayz
Originally posted by Vannor

If ANet follow their usual thing they will provide DLC type stuff for free (included in box price).. There was only one DLC thing for GW1 and was just some 'extra' lore missions that were not required to advance or be better in any way, everything else was included. I wouldn't be surprised if they already have tons of it lined up and ready to go as well. That's the practice these days. Don't release until you have a good amount of content already complete or almost complete for after launch. It makes them look good, we like it and it keeps the worlds evolving. Rift and now TSW (If they deliver) are prime examples of this. That stuff that's released, or planned to be released in TSW's case, on a monthly basis was definately being worked on before those games launched.

That applies for subscription games, not B2P.

You see, those games have to release content to justify paying $15+/month. Even if Anet released DLC at $30 every 3 months it would still be cheaper and more content than the vast majority of subscription MMOs.

In addition, since this time around the Cash Shop is significantly more endowed than GW1's ArenaNet could potentially release DLC at lower prices.

Or, as will be the case in GW2, for free.

No, Anet has only said they'll be adding dynamic events for free, other content has not been confirmed. And that is fine considering the game doesn't require a subscription, meaning that even if we pay for DLC (of substance, not just like rehashed dungeons) it's still a better deal than almost all other MMO's.

No, ArenaNet has not said they will be releasing DLC.

They only confirmed that there will be paid Adventure packs, as tey where in GW1 to, even more they admitted that the adventure pack in GW1 was added to see if people would buy that kind of content in their new upcomming game. That test was very succesfull, which means by that time arenanet allready knew there would be DLC for GW2.

 

Another comment from developers about having no sub, is that if they let people pay for the content alone and not for playing their game, it would push them to deliver better content, they also admitted that there would be more payed content then just expansion packs. They also said that they would release only content that would not divide their community. So these payed adventure packs will be there...

 

 

next to that, i can´t stand people that expect and want everything to be for free. You just can´t expect Arenanet not to try and make money from their products.  If an Adventure pack has for like 30 to 50 hours of gameplay and it costs like $10 it will be very well spend bucks. People just should accept that the good things in life dont come for free. 

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  colddog04

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7/14/12 4:47:28 PM#30
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by fundayz
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by fundayz
Originally posted by Vannor

If ANet follow their usual thing they will provide DLC type stuff for free (included in box price).. There was only one DLC thing for GW1 and was just some 'extra' lore missions that were not required to advance or be better in any way, everything else was included. I wouldn't be surprised if they already have tons of it lined up and ready to go as well. That's the practice these days. Don't release until you have a good amount of content already complete or almost complete for after launch. It makes them look good, we like it and it keeps the worlds evolving. Rift and now TSW (If they deliver) are prime examples of this. That stuff that's released, or planned to be released in TSW's case, on a monthly basis was definately being worked on before those games launched.

That applies for subscription games, not B2P.

You see, those games have to release content to justify paying $15+/month. Even if Anet released DLC at $30 every 3 months it would still be cheaper and more content than the vast majority of subscription MMOs.

In addition, since this time around the Cash Shop is significantly more endowed than GW1's ArenaNet could potentially release DLC at lower prices.

Or, as will be the case in GW2, for free.

No, Anet has only said they'll be adding dynamic events for free, other content has not been confirmed. And that is fine considering the game doesn't require a subscription, meaning that even if we pay for DLC (of substance, not just like rehashed dungeons) it's still a better deal than almost all other MMO's.

No, ArenaNet has not said they will be releasing DLC.

They only confirmed that there will be paid Adventure packs, as tey where in GW1 to, even more they admitted that the adventure pack in GW1 was added to see if people would buy that kind of content in their new upcomming game. That test was very succesfull, which means by that time arenanet allready knew there would be DLC for GW2.

 

Another comment from developers about having no sub, is that if they let people pay for the content alone and not for playing their game, it would push them to deliver better content, they also admitted that there would be more payed content then just expansion packs. They also said that they would release only content that would not divide their community. So these payed adventure packs will be there...

 

next to that, i can´t stand people that expect and want everything to be for free. You just can´t expect Arenanet not to try and make money from their products.  If an Adventure pack has for like 30 to 50 hours of gameplay and it costs like $10 it will be very well spend bucks. People just should accept that the good things in life dont come for free. 

Bleghh... Do you have a link more recent than 5 years ago where they stated that they weren't sure yet?

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  The1ceQueen

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7/14/12 4:50:29 PM#31

I'd gladly pay every 3 months for an expansion or small mission pack. I don't mind paying more for content, heck there is no monthly fee.

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  User Deleted
7/14/12 4:52:41 PM#32

Until we get an official quote from Anet stating that there wil be DLC or DLC-like content, we won't go anywhere.

Some don't mind DLC, some, like myself, do. And, as i said before, with GW2 being a full mmo unlike the original, the only way i see DLC being made is in instanced locaions AKA PS, dungeons and SPVP. I guess.

  sonoggi

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7/14/12 4:54:03 PM#33
Originally posted by lilHeala

Don't believe those saying it's mainly a PvP game.

GW2 is definitely, without a doubt, a pvp-centric game.

  terrant

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7/14/12 5:04:40 PM#34
Originally posted by sonoggi
Originally posted by lilHeala

Don't believe those saying it's mainly a PvP game.

GW2 is definitely, without a doubt, a pvp-centric game.

GW2? Nah.

 

Hundreds of heart quests, hundreds more DEs, three kinds of exploration points, skill challenges, jumping puzzles, a customizable branching entire personal story quest system, massive world bosses, and huge invasion events in Orr...Yes the closets thing to traditional "endgame" will be pvp, but the game has substantial PVE content.

  Mrlogic

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7/14/12 5:06:37 PM#35
Originally posted by fundayz

Considering the game is only 6 weeks away and the speed at which MMO players devour content, we may as well begin wondering what types of DLC would be worthwhile and proper for the game.

Lets not...

  colddog04

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7/14/12 5:08:03 PM#36

Here is a quote from a couple of years ago that will honestly only muddy the waters. :P

http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/10/21/guild-wars-2-to-have-dlc-microtransactions/

 

Eric Flannum sent us a note to clarify a couple of things about their plans for Guild Wars 2 post-release content:

 

“We haven’t decided on what exactly we are or aren’t going to offer for money post-release. We’re open to whatever our players seem most interested in. If, after release, you guys would like more story content, more dungeons, more events, more maps or whatever, it’s something that we have to consider because ultimately making you happy is what makes us successful.  Whether we release that in DLC (like the bonus mission packs in GW1) or whether we do it through expansions (Like Eye of the North) is yet to be determined. As to whether or not there are going to be items like XP boosts available in the in game store, I can only reiterate what we’ve said before (and will continue to say,) that we’ll release details on it when they are available, and that our core philosophy of not requiring you to spend additional money to play the game and not making the game difficult or painful to play in order to encourage you to buy things from the store still stands.”

 

It's yet to be determined according to this. For whatever reason, I was under the impression that major content would be in expansions and smaller updates would be free mostly because of the influx of money from the cash shop. But I suppose we still don't have any confirmation on anything at this point.

 

 

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  Searias

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7/14/12 6:12:43 PM#37
Originally posted by fenistil

DLC's would be good only if that would replace CS.

Expansions  + DLC + CS is too much.

 

Since CS exist then just full blown boxed expansions please.

The DLC's will be sold though the cash shops, and also if people are willing to pay for it, why not right?

  Searias

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7/14/12 6:24:10 PM#38
Originally posted by fundayz
Originally posted by colddog04

No, ArenaNet has not said they will be releasing DLC.

Uhh... I never said that. If you read my post carefully you should realize what I said was that nothing other than new dynamic events has been confirmed to be free.

Unless you have a link where Anet confirms they'll be adding other things like personal sidestory missions, lore missions, new dungeons, new pvp maps, etc for free?

 

 

Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by Searias
"Mike O'Brien has stated that expansions and/or mini-expansions are more likely than standalone campaigns, but a final decision has not been made yet."
 

that quote was made 5 years ago in the pc gamer magazine April 2007 issue
but its probably still true

Right, but we are not talking about standalone campaigns but DLC for the single game.

I am talking about the "expansions and/or mini-expansions" part, and in my opinion I stated that mini-expansions are like DLCs. Either way it's not a bad deal since, you will be buying content which will be yours forever, and not paying for a monthly sub.

  colddog04

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7/14/12 6:29:00 PM#39
Originally posted by Searias
Originally posted by fenistil

DLC's would be good only if that would replace CS.

Expansions  + DLC + CS is too much.

 

Since CS exist then just full blown boxed expansions please.

The DLC's will be sold though the cash shops, and also if people are willing to pay for it, why not right?

The only reason that I can think of is that some of the population might be against it because it looks like a cash grab.

 

All of the sudden arguments start popping up about how ArenaNet lied about the game being buy to play. They start to say things like, "they have a cash shop, so why do they need money for mission packs?" Part of the expectation was a Buy to Play model similar to GW1. GW1 only had a single mission pack for sale in it's entire existence. People might start wondering whether this game is really B2P after all and people may get disgruntled because of it and just kind of float away to the many other options available right now.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

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7/14/12 6:34:01 PM#40

My dream - a big paid for DLC (for like $15) every 3 months.

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