Originally posted by dave6660

Originally posted by KingGator

1.) FPS combat

2.) skill based, no classes

3.) No levels

4.) cash shop b2p preferably f2p

 

Ummm, this sounds like counter strike online to me. Some of you people need to understgand that MMOS probably aren't for you and the games you want to play are already wildly popular and mostly available, go play them and leave actual mmos to people that want them, the 1-4 scenario i outlined above doesn't even vaguely appeal to me.  I suspect the people in agreement with me are legion.

1 - No thank you.  If I wanted to play an FPS I would buy a... wait for it... FPS!

2 - Not required.  If the game offered more variety and imagination then the typical tank / healer / dps roles then I might be interested.

3 - Not required either.  There's a lot of things I don't like about the current crop of mmorpg's but levels isn't one of them.  No need to throw the baby out with the bath water.

4 - Hell no!  I will gladly pay $15 a month to have access to all the content and not be pestered by cash shops.

 

The OP should have said MMORPG instead of MMO. There's this thing called an MMOFPS after all, and it routinely comes with almost all of the features in that list.

Though, when we're talking about the mmoRPG, I'd agree, to an extent. The action gamers are practically banging their head against the wall when they keep buying & trying MMORPGs with standard MMORPG gameplay (which prioritize character skill and progression before player skill, as they must, in my opinion). 

I like the OP's list except for the F2P or B2P.

Originally posted by KingGator

1.) FPS combat

2.) skill based, no classes

3.) No levels

4.) cash shop b2p preferably f2p

 

Ummm, this sounds like counter strike online to me. Some of you people need to understgand that MMOS probably aren't for you and the games you want to play are already wildly popular and mostly available, go play them and leave actual mmos to people that want them, the 1-4 scenario i outlined above doesn't even vaguely appeal to me.  I suspect the people in agreement with me are legion.

In all fairness the vocal minority isn't as cut and dried  just as those of us who stil like traditional mmo gaming likes the same things, there are lots of folks I would consider vocal minority who like sandbox style pames ffapvp games and the list goes on and on.  Though I conceed that your examples does represent a segment of that population.

I can only describe what I feel the future of an MMO I would like to play might me.

1. No level based progression

2. No end game gear all player crafted

3. PVE/PVP happen's on the same world map, and is not in an instance and the only achievement is how fun it is.

4. Player Housing is created by players and can be dropped anywhere.

5. You can dig holes for the sake of digging a hole, fall in it and play fort if you like, or you can continue digging until you have created a nice tunnel you can hide in and horde stuff you steal gather. or you can make like a home. need another room dig it out.

6. Everything even the cloths/armor/items mobs wear have and use and NPC's wear can be crafted by players.

7. Full professions system with at least 50 valued professions that produce something players can use.

8. Full character creation with sliders to allow every part of your body to be designed the way you want instead of 10 body types, 10 hair types etc.

9. Weather system that effects the eviroment I.E snow storms mudslides halestorms sandstorms that cause damage makes you sweat in your amror.

10 A pet systems that allows you craft pets simular to SWG. also a companion systesm sorta of like TOR but allows you to take over the role of your comanion for missions and you can use the character creation system to customize their look.

11. A fully 18+ MMO that has sex nudity adult themes and situations extreme gore blood and violence. no one under 18 allowed to play at all.

12. the majoirty of raid bosses are players who have become very powerful. groups can form raids to take them down. it would be the only time you could loot something other then for resources for crafting.

14. for any other NPC bosses they would all be world bosses and you could form a group larger then 40 to take them down as well.

* I will like to add*

for an example I love crafting but the ability to say take a common sword schematic and take a gun schematic and mix and match varios parts to create something noone has ever crafted would be awesome. same with clothes..mix and match colors patterns and a mix of heavy armor and a cloak to create a unique  look.

Also you can swap parts to create some crazy contraptions like a laser sighted gunsword with an over under greande launcher.

every MMO needs this IMO a mad scientist profession that allows DNA from animals and creatures to be swapped to create unique pets and monsters. also common races can have DNA taken to create some kind of super race or enhance your own DNA with that of exoitc creatures or a driod with ahuman brain etc etc. thats what i would love.

I have more but for me this would be my MMO  in the future I would love to play someday.

Originally posted by solarine

The OP should have said MMORPG instead of MMO. There's this thing called an MMOFPS after all, and it routinely comes with almost all of the features in that list.

Though, when we're talking about the mmoRPG, I'd agree, to an extent. The action gamers are practically banging their head against the wall when they keep buying & trying MMORPGs with standard MMORPG gameplay (which prioritize character skill and progression before player skill, as they must, in my opinion). 

^This

The constant staple in any Role-Playing Game is that your character goes from a knobbly-kneed street urchin to a Master who can toss around meteors and ride dragons. No amount of player skill should allow the urchin to outperform the Master, otherwise the Master's advancement (and therfore time invested) is trivial and meaningless.

It's not that character advancement is required in an MMO - as solarine points out, MMOFPS is a viable genre. However, if character progression is a core mechanic of your game (as it is with RPGs), then you have to ensure that mechanic is always worthwhile to persue. You should get more power from a magical sword than you should from becoming an expert in Rusty Daggers.

Originally posted by KingGator

1.) FPS combat

2.) skill based, no classes

3.) No levels

4.) cash shop b2p preferably f2p

 

Ummm, this sounds like counter strike online to me. Some of you people need to understgand that MMOS probably aren't for you and the games you want to play are already wildly popular and mostly available, go play them and leave actual mmos to people that want them, the 1-4 scenario i outlined above doesn't even vaguely appeal to me.  I suspect the people in agreement with me are legion.

 well ive been playing mmo's since eq day 1 and i would welcome such a mmo, as long as f2p/cashshop didnt equate to p2w.

Oh well, the cool part about forum predictions is No Risk.

Originally posted by mbd1968

Originally posted by KingGator

Originally posted by mbd1968

If you don't like this type of MMO you should probably not play it and not tell other people what they should or should not play. I've been playing MMOs for 9 years and the type of MMO you describe appeals to me. If MMOs don't evolve they will stagnate and die, maybe you are against innovation.

What i described isn't an mmo. Don't take it personally btw.

 

and if the above appeals to you then you don't want an mmo. You should just go buy Gears 3 and call it a day.

Ah OK, you are one of those people that thinks he's right and everyone else is wrong... then I should stop playing MMOs and I will run right out and buy Gears 3..

Welcome to MMORPG.com. 

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Originally posted by KingGator
1.) FPS combat

2.) skill based, no classes

3.) No levels

4.) cash shop b2p preferably f2p

 

Ummm, this sounds like counter strike online to me. Some of you people need to understgand that MMOS probably aren't for you and the games you want to play are already wildly popular and mostly available, go play them and leave actual mmos to people that want them, the 1-4 scenario i outlined above doesn't even vaguely appeal to me.  I suspect the people in agreement with me are legion.

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Reading comprehension is tough. what we want is a fully funded sanboox so we cam watch it kill wow androve all of us boxers right.

Originally posted by KingGator

Ummm, this sounds like counter strike online to me. Some of you people need to understgand that MMOS probably aren't for you and the games you want to play are already wildly popular and mostly available, go play them and leave actual mmos to people that want them, the 1-4 scenario i outlined above doesn't even vaguely appeal to me.  I suspect the people in agreement with me are legion.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I do not recall Counter Strike Online releasing ever.

1.) FPS combat

2.) skill based, no classes

3.) No levels

4.) cash shop b2p preferably f2p

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I don't see why this can't be an mmo, hell I played this already (cept point 4) it was called PLANETSIDE.

And no it is not the same as Counterstrike or any other lame online FPS.

Originally posted by KingGator

1.) FPS combat

2.) skill based, no classes

3.) No levels

4.) cash shop b2p preferably f2p

 

Ummm, this sounds like counter strike online to me. Some of you people need to understgand that MMOS probably aren't for you and the games you want to play are already wildly popular and mostly available, go play them and leave actual mmos to people that want them, the 1-4 scenario i outlined above doesn't even vaguely appeal to me.  I suspect the people in agreement with me are legion.

wrong.  yeah, those bulletpoints sound good but your oblivious to other key factors.  your stance is ironic, cuz you sound like the type of latecomer to MMOs thats ignorant of the good qualities they had which are missing from modern MMOs.

to reply in a similar manner as you,.... go play sp RPGs and stop trying to erase every trace of virtual worldliness for the original MMO players.

and stop with this cliche thats been repeated a million times in this forum.  you're saying the same tired, and ill-thought idea thats constantly being thrown about, and acting like its some kind of fresh revelation.  don't you have any of your OWN ill-thought ideas?

maybe thats how you know there's alot of people in agreement with you, cuz you are just adding your own repetition to the simplistic cliches that they spout.  

congrats?

Originally posted by KingGator

Originally posted by mbd1968

If you don't like this type of MMO you should probably not play it and not tell other people what they should or should not play. I've been playing MMOs for 9 years and the type of MMO you describe appeals to me. If MMOs don't evolve they will stagnate and die, maybe you are against innovation.

What i described isn't an mmo. Don't take it personally btw.

 

and if the above appeals to you then you don't want an mmo. You should just go buy Gears 3 and call it a day.

pure obliviousness.  alot of concepts completely escape your grasp.

Originally posted by TruthXHurts

Saying that "the masses like it" is in no way a good selling point of a product. The masses eat rat hair in their peanut butter, and don't complain. The masses eat ammonia treated beef paste, and don't complain. the masses send their children to testing mills, and think that they are receiving an education. The masses think that the reality and singing/dancing crap that they show on TV is entertainment. The masses are WRONG!

Not sure about wrong, but we are all pretty stupid.

You all must not have been conspiracy theory diving lately.  The world is ending this year, you dolts!  Who cares?!

The OP is wrong.  The "vocal minority" don't know what they want and never have.  All they know is that no game that has been released meets their lofty expectations...except for maybe the "old school" MMO they played years ago until it went "too casual".

Originally posted by Terranah

Seems like most fps today though have levels and classes and xp gain to unlock items.  I wish for the fps games of old with none of the aforementioned.

me too.  %1000

i can't stand Planetside.  it has no MMO aspects that i care about, other than massive amounts of players.  totally unimmersive non-world.

of course, the OP thinks thats what i want.  or worse yet CS.  one of my most despised FPS games.  i guess he knows me better than i know myself tho.  8/  8)

he commanded me to go play them, so i must.

Originally posted by corpusc

Originally posted by KingGator

Originally posted by mbd1968

If you don't like this type of MMO you should probably not play it and not tell other people what they should or should not play. I've been playing MMOs for 9 years and the type of MMO you describe appeals to me. If MMOs don't evolve they will stagnate and die, maybe you are against innovation.

What i described isn't an mmo. Don't take it personally btw.

 

and if the above appeals to you then you don't want an mmo. You should just go buy Gears 3 and call it a day.

 

pure obliviousness.  alot of concepts completely escape your grasp.

Just like they seem to escape your grasp based on whats in your sig.

Pot.  Meet kettle.

Originally posted by Ginaz

Originally posted by corpusc

Originally posted by KingGator

Originally posted by mbd1968

If you don't like this type of MMO you should probably not play it and not tell other people what they should or should not play. I've been playing MMOs for 9 years and the type of MMO you describe appeals to me. If MMOs don't evolve they will stagnate and die, maybe you are against innovation.

What i described isn't an mmo. Don't take it personally btw.

 

and if the above appeals to you then you don't want an mmo. You should just go buy Gears 3 and call it a day.

 

pure obliviousness.  alot of concepts completely escape your grasp.

Just like they seem to escape your grasp based on whats in your sig.

Pot.  Meet kettle.

 

try to make that make sense.

OP thinks EQ-style combat is what makes an MMO an MMO.

Failer things cannot be said.