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7/05/12 1:41:31 AM#121
It's you. |
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7/05/12 4:41:19 AM#122
well its the cash shop/ gem store its not Pay 2 Win, but Pay 2 See Content ...
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7/05/12 4:51:36 AM#123
Spend a million dollar then come and try to win against me and my guild. |
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7/05/12 4:52:28 AM#124
Originally posted by Master10K HAHHAHHAHAHHA omg thats hilarious XDDDDD thanks for the link!!! Just want GW2. |
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7/05/12 5:13:49 AM#125
I'm actually really looking forward to all these folks who are calling the game Pay2Win spending thousands of dollars to amass a huge fortune in in-game gold before they realize that there's absolutely nothing they can buy with said gold that they couldn't have gotten through normal play. They also will soon discover that there's absolutely no way to "control" or corner a market that is game-wide. So they've basically just payed huge sums of money to ruin their own experience and get some placebos that nobody else will even notice. I guess at that point they'll be buying gems and wasting it all on hats and sunglasses.
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7/05/12 5:16:41 AM#126
Originally posted by Butregenyo Well im just going to hire the best players in the world :) GG |
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dadante666
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Joined: 5/07/11
you stop laughing when hear the same joke ,but always cry for the same thing... |
7/05/12 5:18:10 AM#127
Originally posted by negativf4kk i read it and no ,nothing give you advantage to other players so its not p2w ,and yes it just you kid sorry gw2 is not wow wish you need gear to be better than other ,here you need skills nuf sayd
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dadante666
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Joined: 5/07/11
you stop laughing when hear the same joke ,but always cry for the same thing... |
7/05/12 5:22:59 AM#128
Originally posted by Vaultar that man in the video lol oh man cant say better than that i hope thos ho have their mind burn understand it very well cause i dont think is a better explication than that.
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7/05/12 5:23:55 AM#129
OP needs to go check out perfect world games or some other obviously P2W games that got ported from china or whatever. Look at the differences and then try and tell me GW2 is pay2win. What you have to remember is that no matter how careful a company is with their shop system, anyone who has $2000 to blow on the cashshop can and will end up with an advantage.
GW2's cashshop is far far far better than the shops I have seen in games in the past. For example. I played a game where you pretty much had to buy these $1 a pop item that would protect your weapon when you attempted to upgrade it, without said item your weapon would disappear if the upgrade failed. the % chance of success for the last 2-3 upgrades were below 2%. Would you attempt that upgrade without that item? ^^ THAT is P2W. that is stopping people from even attempting to be in the top class of the game without spending money. GW2 is NOT doing this. I wish people who complained about p2w weren't noobs who have only ever played sub games and therefore aint got a clue what they are on about. If you continue to make sweeping statements like you know what everyone everywhere thinks about a certain topic then I am going to shout at you. |
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7/05/12 5:28:35 AM#130
Originally posted by Master10K hahaha thanks for that, it made my day. Good I briefly stopped ignoring threads on this subject, else I would've missed that vid :D
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7/05/12 5:30:08 AM#131
Originally posted by Macecard anyone who has $2000 to blow on the cashshop can and will end up with an advantage. Sorry, but that is the very deffinition of p2w. ----- |
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7/05/12 5:40:30 AM#132
Originally posted by mrw0lf Maybe but not in the way I see it. The only way that wouldnt be true is if you actually received nothing for your money, or received only items that had no stats and could not be traded. What I am say is that in GW2 someone who drops lots of cash into that shaop will not end up somewhere that someone who doesn't spend a penny cannot get too. GW2 will not have a community of players who all spend endless money in the cash shop and run dungeons and instances and spvp together and never get touched by those people who don't spend anything. This is the case in many F2P games. I don't see anything in the GW2 cashshop that will stop me being able to compete with people who spend loads. They may get their quickier (depending on how much time they put in compared to how much I put in (how is this different to P2P games?) but that doesn't concern me that much really. I don't see why someone who can only play 2 hours a week cant have access to seme exp bonus items for that time. and I understand that people who play 24/7 may also use those items and if they do, that is their choice. The point if that you can't buy endgame power from the cashshop and that is what really matters, that is where P2W could hurt the community. If you continue to make sweeping statements like you know what everyone everywhere thinks about a certain topic then I am going to shout at you. |
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7/05/12 5:50:05 AM#133
Are cash shop users getting something that is exclusive to them and give them an advantage in any form of PvP ? The answer is no. So, no, its not p2w. |
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7/05/12 5:52:42 AM#134
Originally posted by Elesthor This (Why can't I ever get my point across in 1 sentence like you :( ) If you continue to make sweeping statements like you know what everyone everywhere thinks about a certain topic then I am going to shout at you. |
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7/05/12 5:58:17 AM#135
Originally posted by Macecard as you can't buy anything that isnt already available in the game, its not really pay to win at all, about all you could say is that it 'might' give players a head start by bypassing the 'legwork' involved in getting those things, thats not really much of an advantage as eventually the 'non-payer' will catch up. |
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7/05/12 6:02:28 AM#136
Originally posted by Leethe nope it's also me.  |
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7/05/12 6:14:10 AM#137
why this is still open? people already make clear cash shop is far from be P2W so close and do not let people open topic with same subject. |
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7/05/12 6:23:05 AM#138
Originally posted by Butregenyo I certainly hope people will try. Drives gem prices down, makes it cheaper for me to buy cash shop stuff with gold :) |
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7/05/12 6:32:53 AM#139
I think this thread has served its purpose, showing easily to anyone that the game is NOT P2W and what are the dangers of misinformation. Someone with enough intelligence should be able to understand that the game is not P2W, those who don't are either idiots or trolls Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums |
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7/05/12 6:40:31 AM#140
Let's put it this way: there are already level 80s in the game after 2 BWEs. Gear stats plateau at level 80 and they aren't hard to get. XP boosts from the cash shops increase XP from kills, not from quests. Farming mobs is a very ineffective way of leveling. Is it plausible that someone could pay a s*** ton of money to get to lvl 80 faster? Sure. Will it be more than 10-15 hours faster? Probably not. Will your gear be better? Nope.
So that leaves WvW.
And the main reason I simply can not see this as P2W is that Mystic Chests MUST drop in game. You can NOT buy them from the store. The chests are not bought from the cash shop. They are being transfered between players. Plainly, gems do not create any items in game that are exploitable. Gems do not create any item that is unique to the cash shop. Gems only provide an alternative means of transfer of items that ALREADY EXIST IN THE GAME from player to player. Therefore, Gems =/= P2W.
We’ll stop to sleep when the game is the best possible game we think it can be. We’ve seen the population of the game steadily rising lately and we’re not going to sit on our butts and congratulate one another, we’re going to try and build on that momentum and make the game even better. -Colin johanson on GW2 |
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