Sad state of fairs this is true, I do not like WoW not for its gameplay I think its fun, but I do not think it needs to be pay to play nor does any mmorpg out here today, no mmorpg is worth it, none of them offer the sense of exploration or adventure or extreme content generating that games like UO or EQ had, basically WoW is now a 3D lobby where you want to que in with other players to take down a boss or do a dungeon run, why am I paying 15$ a month for this again? And not just WoW but every other new mmorpg out there today.

Mostly instanced, short lived crap. Thats whats wrong with WOW its no longer that go out and explore find new people, content generating game that it use to be, matter fact vaniella WoW was the closest we had to a sandbox game in a long time. Now its just go in walk around  town and wait to be instantly put in a dungeon, the dungeon runs are great, but its not worth 15 a month, if it went F2P it would dominate gw2.

I don't think it would kill Guild Wars 2. 

Originally posted by nomatics856

 Now its just go in walk around  town and wait to be instantly put in a dungeon, the dungeon runs are great, but its not worth 15 a month, if it went F2P it would dominate gw2.

Wow is dead to me. 

WoW uses the same format as Global Agenda....

Does it make sense that WoW is losing subs because of $15 a month ?

People are still playing WoW?

Originally posted by Carnafex

Does it make sense that WoW is losing subs because of $15 a month ?

No. It loses subs/players because it's a themepark, just like GW2 will after a few months.

To te OP, WOW doesn't need to F2P to destroy GW2 or any other mmorpg. It's been doing ti for years and will keep doing so for the forseable future.

I dont think it would make any difference for GW2. People that wants to play GW2 think it is a better game and expect to have more fun. Or they have played WOW to much and are burnt out from it...

If vanilla WOW went free I agree..

I don't think anything will kill WoW except maybe Titan when it comes out. Just like GW1 will be a ghost town after GW2 comes out, WoW will be empty too when Titan comes out.

Originally posted by FredomSekerZ

Originally posted by Carnafex

Does it make sense that WoW is losing subs because of $15 a month ?

No. It loses subs/players because it's a themepark, just like GW2 will after a few months.

To te OP, WOW doesn't need to F2P to destroy GW2 or any other mmorpg. It's been doing ti for years and will keep doing so for the forseable future.

Its funny people cry out 'themepark' yet you don't see any Sandbox games that are a smashing success. The closest you can get is minecraft which, really isn't an MMO. You CAN get in a server with over 100 people but there are few servers with that many people. Sandboxes aren't as successful because they tend to be far more picky with players. One man's sandbox is another man's trash pile, and once you miss out on the initial rush you are forced to jump in the sand box and sit in one little square block while watching others have control of the rest of the box, something people don't like considering its near impossible to ever catch up.

Originally posted by Badaboom

Originally posted by nomatics856

 Now its just go in walk around  town and wait to be instantly put in a dungeon, the dungeon runs are great, but its not worth 15 a month, if it went F2P it would dominate gw2.

Wow is dead to me. 

GW2 is THE WoW Killer for me. :)

So you play WoW and want it to be free. Then you come here with your idea with the delusion of blizzard reading it and saying "that makes sense" and play WoW for free.

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WoW's players are already there, free or not.

woah... You seriously think that's the only problem wow has? The monthly sub?!

I wouldn't touch wow with 10 miles long stick... It's ruined beyond repair, not even a F2P conversion can save that game anymore...

Originally posted by FredomSekerZ

Originally posted by Carnafex

Does it make sense that WoW is losing subs because of $15 a month ?

No. It loses subs/players because it's a themepark, just like GW2 will after a few months.

To te OP, WOW doesn't need to F2P to destroy GW2 or any other mmorpg. It's been doing ti for years and will keep doing so for the forseable future.

The rotting husk of WoW has been devouring it's disciples for years (buh-bye SWTOR), but it's losing its teeth everyday.  And GW2 isn't one of it's followers.  Never was.

Sorry, but WoW won't be what plants this game in its grave. 

If WOW went F2P, I will still not play WOW.

Rather be playing GW2 ,Planetside 2 and some other new MMO ( If its B2P or F2P only ).

Originally posted by Purutzil

Originally posted by FredomSekerZ

Originally posted by Carnafex

Does it make sense that WoW is losing subs because of $15 a month ?

No. It loses subs/players because it's a themepark, just like GW2 will after a few months.

To te OP, WOW doesn't need to F2P to destroy GW2 or any other mmorpg. It's been doing ti for years and will keep doing so for the forseable future.

Its funny people cry out 'themepark' yet you don't see any Sandbox games that are a smashing success. The closest you can get is minecraft which, really isn't an MMO. You CAN get in a server with over 100 people but there are few servers with that many people. Sandboxes aren't as successful because they tend to be far more picky with players. One man's sandbox is another man's trash pile, and once you miss out on the initial rush you are forced to jump in the sand box and sit in one little square block while watching others have control of the rest of the box, something people don't like considering its near impossible to ever catch up.

Fair enough. I was mostly refering to the fact that since sandboxes are usually player driven games they have far greater longevity while themeparks are always the same. Consume content and hope for devs to place more or leave.

But you're right. I do know sandboxes aren't very mainstream from the lloks of it, but that wasn't the intention of my post. Also, this is off topic.

Anyway, WOW doesn' havet to go F2P. It's still the biggest mmorpg on the planet with an insanely dedicated playerbase.

it might be overstatement at this time but i think wow has already killed guild wars 2 .

People leaving WoW generally arent doing so because of the $15 a month. If you are tired of the game and looking at other games being free has nothing to do with it. I know I would not go back to WoW even if they wanted to pay me for it. I just dont like it anymore. But I am going to give GW2 a shot. If I stick with it is another topic but even if I do not, I would not go back to WoW.

This thread is silly.  WoW is killing EVERY mmo out there right now, and it's P2P.  o.0