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General Discussion  » Is it me or GW2 PAY 2 WIN game?

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  Derpybird

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7/03/12 11:44:09 PM#81

Why is this thread still open?

"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.

  Alders

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7/03/12 11:46:39 PM#82
Originally posted by Derpybird

Why is this thread still open?

 

  grimm6th

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7/03/12 11:49:37 PM#83
Originally posted by Atlan99
Originally posted by Master10K

I can link to.

So by his definition WvWvW is P2W in GW2.

The person who uses money can buy more defenses and weapons.

From what I read during an interview (or was it an AMA?) the amount of gold needed for these things is going to be mostly trivial by the time you get to higher levels.  I am certain that Anet is aware of the worries that this could be a problem, so I am not exactly worried about this.

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  Kidon

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7/04/12 12:24:00 AM#84
Originally posted by Derpybird

Why is this thread still open?

Because it is fun to see the ignorance of some people due to their laziness.

  Axxar

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7/04/12 1:33:05 AM#85
Originally posted by Tawn47
Originally posted by citalkay

Of course it's pay to win, and it'll just get worse as they add more pay to win options.

[mod edit]

Well it's not impossible for any game to add a P2W cash shop if the devs want to.   The time to complain is when they do (or say they plan to do)....       if we complained about what companies MIGHT do..  we'd complain about everything.

As opposed to now where we never complain about everything?

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  RizelStar

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7/04/12 1:35:49 AM#86
Originally posted by grimm6th
Originally posted by Atlan99
Originally posted by Master10K

I can link to.

So by his definition WvWvW is P2W in GW2.

The person who uses money can buy more defenses and weapons.

From what I read during an interview (or was it an AMA?) the amount of gold needed for these things is going to be mostly trivial by the time you get to higher levels.  I am certain that Anet is aware of the worries that this could be a problem, so I am not exactly worried about this.

One word makes what Atlan99 post 100% flawed...that word would be "supply."

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  seridan

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7/04/12 2:03:06 AM#87
Originally posted by Derpybird

Why is this thread still open?

Why was this thread created in the first place?

Enough with the misinformation about this game, seriously!

Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums

  Vutar

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7/04/12 2:09:42 AM#88

The OP has to either be trolling or have no idea what pay to win even means...

  korat102

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7/04/12 2:10:53 AM#89

If you don't want to play the game then don't play it...simples. 

Why do certain people feel a compulsion to try to put others off? I wonder if they get some sort of perverse pleasure out of denigrating anything they don't personally like?

Most adults just ignore things they have no time for, the trolls might well be pleasantly surprised if they tried it some time...

  User Deleted
7/04/12 2:13:08 AM#90

What's going on up in here?

  Indrome

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This is like trying to drive straight through Schroedinger's minefield!

7/04/12 2:15:09 AM#91
Originally posted by jeremyjodes

What's going on up in here?

Sh*ts going down.

  fivoroth

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7/04/12 2:17:58 AM#92
Originally posted by Master10K

I can link to.

We need to put this as a sticky. Nuff said. 

 

Originally posted by Atlan99
Originally posted by Master10K

I can link to

So by his definition WvWvW is P2W in GW2.

The person who uses money can buy more defenses and weapons.

His definition is the only definition of P2W. I also get pissed off when people say that someone leveling faster ruins their experience and it's P2W. And no, the gold cost is trivial.

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  User Deleted
7/04/12 2:20:41 AM#93
Originally posted by Indrome
Originally posted by jeremyjodes

What's going on up in here?

Sh*ts going down.

thanks for the heads-up. last time I bad mouthed GW2 my buddy pissed in my boots...i'm outie.

  seridan

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7/04/12 2:21:23 AM#94
Originally posted by Caldrin

LOL you should have known all the fan boys would have ripped you apart for saying bad things about Jesus 2.. Silly OP

You mean those who actually KNOW about the game would've ripped him apart for saying misinformed / silly stuff about a game.

Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums

  Caldrin

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7/04/12 2:46:50 AM#95
Originally posted by seridan
Originally posted by Caldrin

LOL you should have known all the fan boys would have ripped you apart for saying bad things about Jesus 2.. Silly OP

You mean those who actually KNOW about the game would've ripped him apart for saying misinformed / silly stuff about a game.

Not sure how accurate this leak is..

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/28104-cash-shop-items-leak/

Probally old by now as I have not been keeping up with things...

It mostly looks ok.. a few iffy things..

 

Fine Transmutation > does this allow you to create a better weapon by combining two togeather? IF this is the case then that could be seen as p2w.

Loot Bag > whats in these ?

Gems for gold > so you can swap gems you buy for real money into in game gold?

Keys > Tho i believe you can find these keys in game they are rare fom what i have read so most people will buy them.

So from that initial leak it does look there there will be some p2w items as such.. tho I do knid of hate that term p2w LOL p2w what?

Also sorry if that info is well out of date/wrong its the first thing that came up on google.. but from this there does look like there are items people will need to buy or things that will give the player an advantage..

 

Its not the wrose cash shop i ahve seen tho.. far far from it..

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  seridan

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7/04/12 2:53:14 AM#96
Originally posted by Caldrin

Not sure how accurate this leak is..

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/28104-cash-shop-items-leak/

Probally old by now as I have not been keeping up with things...

It mostly looks ok.. a few iffy things..

It is an old leak. Currently the contents of the store are these:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Gem_Store

Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums

  wasim470

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7/04/12 2:53:39 AM#97
Originally posted by negativf4kk

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Talk:Gem#Real_life_money_--.3E_in_game_money

Looks like P2W?

YES, sooooooo true it's pay to win game, so don't play it :P

  Sebber

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7/04/12 2:57:05 AM#98

 

Fine Transmutation > does this allow you to create a better weapon by combining two togeather? IF this is the case then that could be seen as p2w.

Cosmetic Only

Loot Bag > whats in these ?

I thing you mean the bag size?

Gems for gold > so you can swap gems you buy for real money into in game gold?

Not pay to win since their is hardly any gear progression at max level, and this will hold most gold sellers away and allow people to buy items in the gems store for ingame gold.

Keys > Tho i believe you can find these keys in game they are rare fom what i have read so most people will buy them.

Not P2W, since you don't win anything, from the items that are in the chest.

 

  bleyzwun

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7/04/12 2:57:07 AM#99

Didn't see anything in there that was P2W.  I think you're assuming it is without having looked at the gem store.  

  Crisazgo

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7/04/12 2:57:31 AM#100
Originally posted by Caldrin
Originally posted by seridan
Originally posted by Caldrin

LOL you should have known all the fan boys would have ripped you apart for saying bad things about Jesus 2.. Silly OP

You mean those who actually KNOW about the game would've ripped him apart for saying misinformed / silly stuff about a game.

Not sure how accurate this leak is..

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/28104-cash-shop-items-leak/

Probally old by now as I have not been keeping up with things...

It mostly looks ok.. a few iffy things..

 

Fine Transmutation > does this allow you to create a better weapon by combining two togeather? IF this is the case then that could be seen as p2w.

Loot Bag > whats in these ?

Gems for gold > so you can swap gems you buy for real money into in game gold?

Keys > Tho i believe you can find these keys in game they are rare fom what i have read so most people will buy them.

So from that initial leak it does look there there will be some p2w items as such.. tho I do knid of hate that term p2w LOL p2w what?

Also sorry if that info is well out of date/wrong its the first thing that came up on google.. but from this there does look like there are items people will need to buy or things that will give the player an advantage..

 

Its not the wrose cash shop i ahve seen tho.. far far from it..

Theres no gear gap at 80.

You get a set of level 80 armor for free to use in pvp at anytime. The better looking pvp skins require you to play pvp and accumilte currency.

In PVE there will be some cheapo bland looking armor sets that you can create/buy for next to nothing. A person with alot of wealth will be able to get the better looking pve skins without any effort, but at no advantage.

This makes ingame currency not giving you any advantage only in looks on certain skins.

 

and for the other shop items:

On beta the stones just copied the appearence of 1 item to another and destroyed it in the process. Its just a system that allows you to choose how you want to look.

The chests you open with keys just contained more gem shop items. Like exp boosters etc. Again there is no gear difference so how is it pay 2 win. If you are trying to hit 80 fast then you are just bypassing content for no reason, and will get bored and move back to panda land sooner.

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