Originally posted by 7star

Originally posted by william0532

 

How do you make a game where no one will have an advantage? I guess its time to go back to pong.

I do not see this as a pay to win game, I see it as a pay to have lots of pretty's and shinies. Which I don't care about, so I'm ok.

Yes. There will will be an f2p version of Pong.

 

But you can upgrade to the VIP acct for a small fee and get the golden  paddle of awesomeness which will only offer the convenience of being a couple of millimeters bigger, thus saving you the inconvenience of having to twist your knob as quickly. It just reduces knob grind a bit.

 

Edit: I'm not taking any sides here, mind you. I've pre-purchased GW2 and look forward to playing. I'm also playing TSW and I would probably buy xp pots if they were in the cs now. 

Is there any chance of buying that golden paddle of awesomeness in other games ? I'm not so interested in the bigger paddle size wise but being able to reduce knob grind seems like a feature I can't live without

I've said it before, I'll say it again: there is literally no amount of money one could spend in GW2 that would make me feel like I, having not spent a single dollar, am at a disadvantage compared to him.  

The fact its so less focused on gear and all and the fact you basically trade in for in game currency does make it actually more pay to win... which kinda is funny. Their attempt to make skill trump out means having that extra means behind you of an advantage that much more prominent then most other MMos. Making what you do matter less in what your character can do means what you CAN get with gold is that much more effective at boosting your character. 

I can't call it P2W but it has by far a stronger system for it then a lot of other games out there just due to their design choice.

Originally posted by Purutzil

The fact its so less focused on gear and all and the fact you basically trade in for in game currency does make it actually more pay to win... which kinda is funny. Their attempt to make skill trump out means having that extra means behind you of an advantage that much more prominent then most other MMos. Making what you do matter less in what your character can do means what you CAN get with gold is that much more effective at boosting your character. 

 

I can't call it P2W but it has by far a stronger system for it then a lot of other games out there just due to their design choice.

Now tell all the people exactly WHAT you can buy for gold so they can understand why it's not P2W.

While they anit P2W yet, once they get that better stuff in the cash shop means more money, they will be.  Personaly I expect both GW2 and TSW will be P2W with in a year.

sick of these silly topics. Ya its Pay 2 Win. Please dont play GW2. Please dont. We dont care if you play or not. The game will be succesful either way without these ignorant ppl.

Originally posted by Cetra

sick of these silly topics. Ya its Pay 2 Win. Please dont play GW2. Please dont. We dont care if you play or not. The game will be succesful either way without these ignorant ppl.

Why are people lying on purpose?

Originally posted by RizelStar

Originally posted by Cetra

sick of these silly topics. Ya its Pay 2 Win. Please dont play GW2. Please dont. We dont care if you play or not. The game will be succesful either way without these ignorant ppl.

Why are people lying on purpose?

its kinda just what sarcasm is.  sort of a satirical lie.

Going by what you linked OP then no, its not pay to win. Why? Because you can get gold ingame. You can get materials and gear ingame. Which means you do not HAVE to use the AH for anything.

For thoes of you who are idiots and dont know what pay to win means. It means being able to buy items with real life money that you are not able to obtain any other way. So in no way can GW2 be P2W.

Now, thats not to say you can disagree with the cash shop or the model they have set up. But trying to call it P2W is just fail.

I don't see how you can get anything worth wild from AH gear. While playing I would get a few good drops here and there but nothing great that would sell for gold. But then I would find a Karma vender that sold great Green gear that had crazy stats that beat anything you would find from a drop. Also the Honor gear in WvW is great too which you also can't but for gold. So unless buying basic gear from AH is P2W were have I've been all these gears. It's like buying a great katana from the AH in FFXI and thinking it would win against a Relic GK.

Originally posted by Buttski

it's fun to read the posts of those tsw fanboy tryhards :D

what does that mean

Originally posted by Adalwulff

I feel sorry for anyone who dumps a ton of money into gems.

Actually its a way to support the game if you like it.

I would  even buy one of those yellow "party box"  just to support it & have some fun in the cities^^

It´s your choice but it´s not going to make you "win" over anyone anyway.

Originally posted by Master10K

I can link to.

Bridger Rants are awesome and so true.  OP doesnt know what he is talking about and is using the word in the wrong way.

Only if you consider changing the color of your pants paying to win

Originally posted by rankor2
So if I buy gems and trade for large amounts of gold what can I buy that will make my char OP and unable to be beaten? Oh, nothing! So how is it p2w? Can we lock this silly thread now?

Agreed.

Haters will always be haters and trolls will always be trolls.

Originally posted by Atlan99

Originally posted by Master10K

I can link to.

So by his definition WvWvW is P2W in GW2.

The person who uses money can buy more defenses and weapons.

This poster needs a link as well.

I don't know about you guys, but I think this thread has gotten out of hand.

For 60 dollars I think all prepurchasers have already won. 

+2 TO ALL STATS RING OMG GAME BREAK