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  Scarlyng

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Joined: 5/01/12
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7/03/12 7:29:45 PM#21

I'm not a big fan of subscription fee games.  This is not because the companies don't have the right to charge whatever they want for their products.  It is because the existence of the sub fee promotes the same old style of thinking, which is to provide shiny rewards that are dependent on doing the same things over, and over, and over, and over ... ad infinitum.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

  VirgoThree

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7/03/12 7:29:53 PM#22

As many have pointed out you are paying for a licensed copy of the product upfront with the box purchase. The monthly fee is a service charge to continue using the "service" which generally includes content updates, tech support, 24/7 server access, maintenance, and anything else under the sun they want to put in the service category. Once you stop paying for the service you are cut off but you still have a licensed copy of the game.

This is analagous to demanding premium satelite radio should only have one upfront cost and provide free service for life afterwards. If you buy a sirius XM satelite receiver you still have to pay the service charge to keep it active. Content doesn't come free.

This reminds me I need to pay my XM bill because it just cut off :(

  Axehilt

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7/03/12 8:23:47 PM#23
Originally posted by grogstorm

Well said.  And I chose to no longer pay them "tribute"  as per  "Worstluck's" definition.  And I forsee many other to follow suit as they learn of this exorbitant tax. 

"Many others"?  Really?

How many threads per day do you see of players outraged over subscription fees?

Players were never excited by sub fees, and it's always blunted the genre's potential popularity, but it's not like any substantial chunk of players considers it an "exhorbent tax" and is aching to ditch the genre due to sub fees.  Open your eyes and take an accurate glance of what players are actually pissed about before making crazy claims.

  InfinityD

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Joined: 5/08/07
Posts: 33

7/03/12 8:57:50 PM#24

Why is it that people do not understand that it takes quite a bit of money to maintain and upgrade a persistant online game?

  kb4blu

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Joined: 9/10/03
Posts: 668

7/03/12 9:06:13 PM#25

Sounds to me that the OP needs to take an Econ 101 course. He does not seem to understand basic economics.

 

  niceguy3978

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Joined: 6/14/06
Posts: 1992

7/03/12 9:10:01 PM#26
Originally posted by grogstorm

It’s time to wake up and realze whats going on.  You need to stop renting server time for a game that you already own.  Basically a game subscription is nothing more than a rent/tax.

What other commodity can you own where you have to continuously pay tax to actually use it?

Some of you may say property.   As you have to continuously pay tax to continue owning it.  Well you can control the tax rate through your vote or where you live.  But server “tax” is fixed and you have little choice other than to discontinue using the item you own (cancel subscription) or continue to pay the ”tax”.

Lets take a look at the “tax”.  If you buy a P2P game for $60, you then have to pay a “tax” to continue using it.  If your subscription is $15 a month you are paying $180 a year in “tax” or a rate of 300%/year.  That is absolutely ridiculous.   No wonder game CEO’s like Blizzards, Bobby Kotick, is taking in $14,950,182.00 a year (2009 data) and floating around in a $34.000.000.00 yacht.

When you buy a car or house, you most likely will not pay more than 10% annually in tax for the privilege of owning it.  And again you have a say on the rate you are willing to pay.

I for one have decided, I will no longer pay an ownership tax to play a game I already outright own.  I hope you see the wisdom in this argument and consider a “Buy to Play” [0% tax] game verses the “Pay to Play” [300% TAX] games.  It only makes sense to me.

It’s time for a new Boston tea party, and though out these greedy game companies.

And to think there are people who chose to play 2-3, P2P games at the same time.  [shakes head]

Let me know if you agree with me or just don’t mind this “TAX”

Should only have to pay for cable once too.

  Ramanadjinn

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Joined: 8/08/11
Posts: 1305

7/03/12 9:18:33 PM#27

actually econ 101 would teach that it is better to pay out over time than a lump sum all at once assuming the figures are the same.

a sum of 1000 dollars paid now would be MUCH more costly than the same amount paid in small increments over the course of several years.  ($1000 now > $1000 in the future).

i suggest you research the phrase "time value of money".

good luck in your future economic endeavors!

 

this is the exact sort of problems that i did in my first econ class.

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