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  AmazingAvery

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7/02/12 2:32:25 PM#121

With the average age of a gamer perceived to be what it is; it it would also be logical to think that they could have such disposable income to purchase both games seeing as they are nearly 2 months apart.


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  Ketill

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7/02/12 2:33:22 PM#122

Unless the game is not finished, I think have more to lose from delaying than competing against TSW. If they wait too long they could end up against MoP and the glut of holiday console game releases. Also, from my experience in TSW beta, unless that game has a ton of extra content that devs were holding back, many players will be "done" with most of the content by the time GW2 hits.

  Zeblade

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7/02/12 2:35:44 PM#123

lets see "very good release of TSW " heres someone that does not play TSW. Do you know how many bugs gets talking about in chat? Is it just ONE quest not working? Truth is the mmo has a CASH shop with items you can never get ingame. There is only what 5 servers I think. What bothers me is when Funcom asks for lifetime subs. I have not seen in forums nor INGAME where people go on and on believing this MMO people will be subbing for a few years

This is Funcom. Something wrong ingame.. you have no clue if they know about it.. are working on it. Anyway if you did a lifetime.. you just gave them your money away. TSW has nothing to keep you playing. Why play? For puzzle quests? Or for the loot you never get? You just get money to buy clothes and so far from what I can see everyone with a Q1 and up look the same. 

I mean people are buying things as if TSW was F2P. Don't even try to say "WOW has a Cash Shop". Ok go look at WOW's then look at TSW then remember TSW is not even launched yet and WOW never had one for how long?

Just pay for something thats worth it. Man ..EXPLECT something for your money. Like a new Game comes out and 3 new DLC's at the same time. Things that just were not put in the game because they NEW people would PAY extra to get it. People are sheep.

 

GuildWars 2 could have been launhed months ago. TSW.. should have been launched OCT-NOV.

 

  tares

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7/02/12 2:53:30 PM#124

TSW is so bad the CEO left, it is short and boring after I beat most of it in closed beta. GW2 will own it.

like I asked before,what is TSW's plan to keep players from bailing when GW2 releases or WoW's MoP releases? As it seems like TSW is dying already.

  Doggett

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7/02/12 3:15:24 PM#125

 


But the only people that i've read that refer GW2 to the second coming of Jesus Christ, are the people who don't like the game. Sure I know it could have happened, and it probably has, but if it did it isn't like it's in every thread, heck i honestly havent even seen anyone refer the game to Jesus except about 3-4 times, each time from haters (except this time, I don't know if you hate GW2 or just genuinely don't like it).

I probably gave off the wrong impression by putting it like that, i'm not saying I dislike the game. I'm rather neutral to it, already bought it so will probably spent some time on it when it's released. I'm just saying from what i've played it doesn't feel special in any way. No more than a TSW or a TERA or even a D3, and of course nobody actually said it was the second coming except when used in a negative way because it would be silly to name it that in a positive way (not sure if that made sense ;)

There are however plenty of people saying it's almost impossible not to like the game, which is what I was getting at. It does do some things differently, but nothing extreme and nothing to the point it's way above anything else. 

But like I said, I will play it myself, the only real issue I had with the earlier events was the performance issues I was having. But I heard from some friends that that has been solved mostly.

 

  Finit

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7/02/12 3:20:24 PM#126
Originally posted by tares

TSW is so bad the CEO left, it is short and boring after I beat most of it in closed beta. GW2 will own it.

like I asked before,what is TSW's plan to keep players from bailing when GW2 releases or WoW's MoP releases? As it seems like TSW is dying already.

Oh God please no...He's not one of us I swear.  Guild Wars 2 is a very good game, but why does that entitle you to bash every other game that releases?

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  User Deleted
7/02/12 3:21:06 PM#127
Originally posted by Ketill

Unless the game is not finished, I think have more to lose from delaying than competing against TSW. If they wait too long they could end up against MoP and the glut of holiday console game releases. Also, from my experience in TSW beta, unless that game has a ton of extra content that devs were holding back, many players will be "done" with most of the content by the time GW2 hits.

Exactly. People will play once through the "story", just like SW:TOR, and then be bored, just like SW:TOR. By the end of the year, TSW will be another incident in the MMO world.

  Lydon

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7/02/12 3:21:32 PM#128

If anything, TSW should postpone!

  Leethe

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7/02/12 3:27:35 PM#129
Originally posted by tares

TSW is so bad the CEO left, it is short and boring after I beat most of it in closed beta. GW2 will own it.

like I asked before,what is TSW's plan to keep players from bailing when GW2 releases or WoW's MoP releases? As it seems like TSW is dying already.

The CEO is still emplayed with Funcom but in a different role, not exactly leaving. 

To the others: Please don't think all GW2 fans spout the same stuff as the quoted poster. 

There is NO miracle patch.

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  Warband

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7/02/12 3:32:12 PM#130
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by Malevil
Originally posted by FredomSekerZ
Originally posted by Nefera
Originally posted by CrunkJuice2

" Mike O'Brien believes GW2 will be a "wow killer/beater""

oh god here we go,another swtor incoming

 

i guess maybe the developers who make these games arent really any smarter then the idiots who play them

 

"Nothing is going to kill WoW other than WoW."

- Mike O'Brien

 

Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/04/23/arenanet-founder-mike-obrien-will-be-satisfied-when-guild-wars-2-is-the-most-successful-mmo-period/

You people should stop taking my posts out context. I said, and quote myself:

Finally, "wow killer" doesn't exist, because you can't kill anoter game, just beat it. WOW beat EQ2, but not kill. And in case you missed the memo, Mike O'Brien believes GW2 will be a "wow killer/beater"

And now, i'll take from that link too:

"We're in it to win it this time,” said O’Brien. “We were number two to World of Warcraft with Guild Wars, now we want to beat them. We’ll be satisfied when the Guild Wars 2 is the most successful MMO"

Nobody plain says "We're going to kill WOW". But this is probably the closest it can get. Whatever anyway. If i'm not mistaken, O'Brien left Blizzard and formed Anet. Now he thinks ihe's big enough to start talking stupid, and wants to beat is former company. Fortunaly, he doesn't reprsent the whole of ANet.

 

He does represent whole company and there is nothing wrong trying to be the best. Whats stupid in saying that they want to beat WoW and become number one  ? Stupid is to be satisfied with second place, thats loosers attitude .

 

Because an alternative standpoint is to try to make a great game that is also economically successful; a standpoint which I believe is more accepted than the "Let's try to beat WoW". 

They've done that got the T shirt, sold 7 million and grew from what 5 people to currently around 250 employees. They (or rather her) could give two shits about doing it again, guildwars was king number 2 being the most well known online rpg post wow era that was successful. He know doesn't want to be number 2 and it's not exactly a crime. It's not like they're some random studio who saw mmo profits and went hey lets try to beat WoW or more accurately lets try and get a piece of that p2p pie. They were one of the first the think outside the box.

  Morv

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7/02/12 3:32:32 PM#131
Originally posted by FredomSekerZ
Originally posted by likwidsage

I don't think people realize what a behemoth the GW2 release has become. Possibly the most *anticipated* MMO ever. Now whether that turns dream turn to reality is an other question. However, by the looks of the beta tests, previews and beta reviews, it seems that there is some truth to the hype. I doubt TSW will any effect on GW2 on release day at all.

Yet, Pandaria will almost certanly sell more. Weird huh.

On topic, 2 completly different games. This idea that 1 games affects the others gets tossed around alot and i have yet to see it happening. SWTOR didn't affect Rift. TERA didn't affect SWTOR. TSW didn't affect TERA. And i'm certain GW2 won't affect TSW.

No need to postone anything. The game's good. it will do well, just like TSW and all others. (expect TOR for obvious reasons): Is this thread a troll threads? Seems like it.

Wow's release trumped Everquest 2's release... it was an interesting event.

  DJJazzy

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7/02/12 3:35:39 PM#132

TSW is a fine game

And no, definitely do not postpone GW2's release.

That is all.

  User Deleted
7/02/12 3:36:51 PM#133
Originally posted by Morv

Wow's release trumped Everquest 2's release... it was an interesting event.

"Crushed" would be more appropriate. I was there in both betas and anticipated it back then in 2004.

  dontadow

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7/02/12 3:39:14 PM#134

Nah, it's actually a pretty brilliant time to release. 2 months of more wow like combat and endless grinding from TSE will add more players to a pool of folk who thinks there can be a variety of different playstyles other than tank and spank.  TSE is a very limited player base. First you have to be interested in the genre, then you have to be uninterested in the genre enough to try to immerse yourself in a WOW mixture of a Cthullu world.  It's a fine line.  

  Shatter30

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7/02/12 3:39:52 PM#135

I dont know anyone that plans to continue to play TSW once GW2 is out, not a problem...no delay...thx

  User Deleted
7/02/12 3:43:55 PM#136
Originally posted by Morv
Originally posted by FredomSekerZ
Originally posted by likwidsage

I don't think people realize what a behemoth the GW2 release has become. Possibly the most *anticipated* MMO ever. Now whether that turns dream turn to reality is an other question. However, by the looks of the beta tests, previews and beta reviews, it seems that there is some truth to the hype. I doubt TSW will any effect on GW2 on release day at all.

Yet, Pandaria will almost certanly sell more. Weird huh.

On topic, 2 completly different games. This idea that 1 games affects the others gets tossed around alot and i have yet to see it happening. SWTOR didn't affect Rift. TERA didn't affect SWTOR. TSW didn't affect TERA. And i'm certain GW2 won't affect TSW.

No need to postone anything. The game's good. it will do well, just like TSW and all others. (expect TOR for obvious reasons): Is this thread a troll threads? Seems like it.

Wow's release trumped Everquest 2's release... it was an interesting event.

True, but they where also release in the same exact week. Actually, this is what i was refering to regarding MOP. Because of O'Brien's claim, i woulnd't be suprised in Blizz placed it in the same month, max, just for the hell of it. But, that's only if it's ready, IMO. Also, i can't really think of any other event like this

  Thrashbarg

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7/02/12 3:44:18 PM#137

GW2 currently sitting at 5th most pre-ordered game (1st PC title on the list), with the WoW expansion (pandaria) at 24th, and TSW at 39th.

Yeah, I'm sure ANet is reeealllly worried about those other games.......

  Lord.Bachus

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7/02/12 4:19:16 PM#138
Originally posted by Finit
Originally posted by tares

TSW is so bad the CEO left, it is short and boring after I beat most of it in closed beta. GW2 will own it.

like I asked before,what is TSW's plan to keep players from bailing when GW2 releases or WoW's MoP releases? As it seems like TSW is dying already.

Oh God please no...He's not one of us I swear.  Guild Wars 2 is a very good game, but why does that entitle you to bash every other game that releases?

 

Espescially those arguments are very impressive. NOT, i have been accused of fanboiisme myself a lot, but allways based on real arguments, tough not allways understood. But mindlessly bashing other games is truely the lowest one can get on these boards. TSW is a good game. But despite all the fub i have playing it, GW2 is far more complete then TSW, but then TSW is aiming at different people.

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  User Deleted
7/02/12 4:23:21 PM#139

LOL TSW will be a ghost town in the wake of GW2

  tares

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7/02/12 4:24:39 PM#140
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Finit
Originally posted by tares

TSW is so bad the CEO left, it is short and boring after I beat most of it in closed beta. GW2 will own it.

like I asked before,what is TSW's plan to keep players from bailing when GW2 releases or WoW's MoP releases? As it seems like TSW is dying already.

Oh God please no...He's not one of us I swear.  Guild Wars 2 is a very good game, but why does that entitle you to bash every other game that releases?

 

Espescially those arguments are very impressive. NOT, i have been accused of fanboiisme myself a lot, but allways based on real arguments, tough not allways understood. But mindlessly bashing other games is truely the lowest one can get on these boards. TSW is a good game. But despite all the fub i have playing it, GW2 is far more complete then TSW, but then TSW is aiming at different people.

I know little of GW2 now so not a fanboy, I base my premise on GW2's popularity, such as preorders. I know a lot of TSW so feel like I can bash it as it is to short and repetitive for an MMO IMO.

As a matter of fact I usually poin to the positives in games, even though they are not for me. SWTOR, tera, rift, and others I have played and no longer play.

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