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  Lostcog

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7/02/12 1:15:28 PM#21

OMG the CEO stepped down. I am cancelling my sub...

 

 

  Kost

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7/02/12 1:16:02 PM#22
Originally posted by tares
Originally posted by Kost

It's FunCom's most successful launch in the history of the company, so no, I don't believe this thread has any merit whatsoever.

 

 

Maybe to the players. AO and AoC apear to have brought in a larger proportion of players though.  We all work or have worked so we know money,  sales, and profit are the purpose of any business.

Legos was mentioned but the former CEO's job has nothing to do with it, he is the strategic vice president of a 300 employee company. Guess whose job covers business strategy and who has the final say? The CEO. CEO decisions are in local papers, national, any financial papers.

AO is widely regarded as having the worst MMORPG launch in the history of the genre.

AoC had large sales numbers initially (what MMO doesn't these days?), but poor retention rates.

TSW has just as many, if not more, players right now during early access than AoC did. FunCom is selling lifetime subscriptions to TSW (and account upgrade packages, of which there are a few options, each with relative pricing), something they did not do with AoC, and a large number of customers have taken that route. They also have seen great success already from the Cash Shop, which despite previous claims has been received very well by the community and current playerbase.

The potential for easy profit, and the game has not technically even launched yet, is much higher for TSW than for any of FunCom's previous titles.

  GrumpyMel2

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7/02/12 1:17:13 PM#23
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by lizardbones

 

People do not willingly take demotions unless they are desperate, or the demotion is more in line with what they want to do anyway. Companies don't offer demotions if what they want is to fire someone. If he had enough 'something' to stay employed in the face of termination, then he had enough 'something' to stay the CEO of the company if he wanted.

He just didn't feel like doing the job any longer, but the company wanted him to stay on. His desire to to not do the job didn't stem from a hatred of the company or what it was doing, otherwise he would have left. It's not a shock that people aren't always happy in the jobs they manage to get.

 

 I mean really...

Do people honestly think that if the board was unhappy with him they would put him essentially in charge of their new mmo project (Legos? Really? Meh...anywho)?

Pretty sure they wouldn't want him to have anything to do with that let alone anything else.

Essentialy it's impossible for anyone outside of a company (or thier inner circle) to divine the real meaning behind a move like this....

I certainly have witnessed first hand "Taken on a new role with the company" style verbage as corporate speak for "This guys a train wreck but it's too difficult/expensive for us to get rid of him altogether so we're going to move him somewhere where hopefully he'll do less damage."  I've also seen it used for  "This guys an ACE, we need to focus his talents here".... and for "This guy really wanted to do something else, and this was the only way we could keep some sort of relationship with him".... and everything else in between.

Honestly, there is no way anyone can really translate these sort of statement with any accuracy unless they have acess to some inside knowledge. The only thing that can be safely assumed....and this goes for probably 90% of the companies out there..... any relationship between the reasoning given in a company press release for such moves and the actual reasoning is purely coincidental.

  Kost

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7/02/12 1:18:42 PM#24
Originally posted by Paradigm68
Originally posted by Kost

It's FunCom's most successful launch in the history of the company, so no, I don't believe this thread has any merit whatsoever.

 

That's not really a high bar for FC though. 

If you had actually played the game, you would realize how monumental an improvement TSW is compared to the previous FunCom titles.

I'm not a fan of the company, but they have earned some of my respect by taking the criticism that people have given them over the years, much of it extremely harsh (and extremely warranted), and using that as a guideline on how to improve the experience for customers.

  rnor6084

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7/02/12 1:18:57 PM#25

Your logic is terrible. More like pure speculation on your part.

  Havekk

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7/02/12 1:24:19 PM#26

A documented and heavy gW2 supporter spewing a lot of assumptions about a move in a company of a game that will be rivaling gw2.... color me supprised. 

 

Especially after his last comment in another thread: 

 

"Is this a joke?  TSW didn't draw in many players so far, so that is a very poor launch.  If GW2 decided to have an early head start releasing tommorow it would gank most TSW players.  When GW2 releases in two months it will gank most remaining TSW players.   There isn't much longevity or story in TSW, I blew through most of the 8 zones in closed beta at about 8-12 hours per zone to do it all, after the story the PvP and combat is enough to drive many away."

 

 

Don't you all know that gw2 will "gank" any game coming to the table...ROFL. 

  Wickedjelly

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7/02/12 1:24:38 PM#27
Originally posted by GrumpyMel2

Essentialy it's impossible for anyone outside of a company (or thier inner circle) to divine the real meaning behind a move like this....

I certainly have witnessed first hand "Taken on a new role with the company" style verbage as corporate speak for "This guys a train wreck but it's too difficult/expensive for us to get rid of him altogether so we're going to move him somewhere where hopefully he'll do less damage."  I've also seen it used for  "This guys an ACE, we need to focus his talents here".... and for "This guy really wanted to do something else, and this was the only way we could keep some sort of relationship with him".... and everything else in between.

Honestly, there is no way anyone can really translate these sort of statement with any accuracy unless they have acess to some inside knowledge. The only thing that can be safely assumed....and this goes for probably 90% of the companies out there..... any relationship between the reasoning given in a company press release for such moves and the actual reasoning is purely coincidental.

 For a CEO though? Can't say I've ever seen it done for that . Lower positions of course for a multitude of reasons. But normally with Officer positions if it isn't working then they have them removed or push them out. Of course anything is possible and I'm not in the company so this is all pure speculation. Which is kind of the point in the first place... 

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  tares

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OP  7/02/12 1:27:52 PM#28
Originally posted by Kost
Originally posted by tares

TSW has just as many, if not more, players right now during early access than AoC did.

Not even close to age of conan yet. The game has a day before launch though. Age of conan was 900,000 boxes, #4 on xfire, the forums had 3 times as many threads and posts the day of launch as TSW forums have today.

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  Arkain

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Hows your google-Fu?

7/02/12 1:32:19 PM#29
Originally posted by tares

I am assuming they are related but here is the "official" story http://www.funcom.com/investors/funcom_n.v._announces_ole_schreiner_as_new_ceo_for_the_company

Logic tells me something must be wrong with the launch. When AoC launched the lead developer "resigned" just after launch and then the CFO "resigned" right after reporting 33 million in losses.

"Resigned" being used by Funcom is a lot like "inconcievable" in the princess bride http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk

If you read, it seems he wanted to go out on top and take a lighter job. Good for him, way to go.

 

"After serving as Funcom CEO for several years and having successfully shipped two of the company's most important titles - 'Age of Conan' and 'The Secret World' - Mr. Aas has decided to take on a freer role as Strategic Advisor. Mr. Aas will also serve as Chief Strategy Officer. Among other projects Mr. Aas will be working actively with the recently announced LEGO MMO developed by Funcom."

  Blacknd

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7/02/12 1:57:48 PM#30

This is such a blatant stretch, even for you tares.

.. But in a good way.

  highflying

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7/02/12 2:02:41 PM#31

 

There's been talk of this for several months, and he didn't resign 1 day before the launch, the launch was on friday.

Everythingwhentbetterthanexpected.jpg, and the only thing funcom might have to do tomorrow, is fire up an extra server or two.

This means absolutely nothing, and for the record Trond Arne Aas has never been a good ceo, he sold a lot of his shares 2 months ago, pretty much fucking over every investor, and he's got a lot of shit for doing that, which I think might've something to do with him quitting as fast as he could.

  Gargola

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7/02/12 2:17:35 PM#32

Some people just like to troll anything they see as a "rival" game, or cause they are spiteful towards a company.

AoC issues claimed the head of Gaute... yes, however, there are quite a few things that are completley different here.

 

A: Gaute was no member of the board of directors... he was Game director for AoC, he was the direct responsible for AoC, Board Directors are in charge of the company decisions, not really in charge of game development, at all.

 

If this is due to some actions that they didn't like of the previous CEO it porbably has to do with how he traded some shares some months ago, but if there was really bad vibe towards him, he would have been ejected from the company.  This sounds like the guy (who still owns a LOT of shares) probably wanted a less demanding job.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if he suddenly becomes member of another directive board for another company, as i've seen similar moves done by exects before, in order to allocate time for multiple management positions, having about the same actual workload but much higher added income.

  tares

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OP  7/02/12 2:19:32 PM#33
Originally posted by highflying

 

There's been talk of this for several months, and he didn't resign 1 day before the launch, the launch was on friday.

I tried to positive spit it and claim the launch is tommorow. Maybe the population will go up 4 fold tomorrow and everything will go well.   If launch was friday it didn't do so well.

TBH I hope more MMOs come out with modern or future settings. It is popular, look at COD:Modern warfare an FPS that has an MMORPG leveling system.

I'm playing vampire masquerade as my RPG right now which is modern, and spending most my time in games I fly out to a tourny in 3 days for and expect to get WTF pawned in ( guess the tourny?). so I'm not a fan or hater, I just want to know why?

  alakram

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7/02/12 2:24:30 PM#34
Originally posted by paidgtfo

Resigning any position at the launch of a major product is worrying regardless of what industry, there really is no other way to slice it.

Ask yourself : If you were the boss of a company that was launching a product you loved, would you resign on the eve of its release?

While it doesnt spell total doom for TSW, something obviously went down at Funcom that he didnt like/didnt want his name stamped on it as the #1 guy responsible.

Maybe is becouse of the cash shop?

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  Rightlov

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7/02/12 2:59:49 PM#35
Originally posted by tares
.. tried to positive spit it and claim the launch is tommorow. Maybe the population will go up 4 fold tomorrow and everything will go well.   If launch was friday it didn't do so well.

Of course the population won't go up fourfold tomorrow.

But considering that you claim yourself very knowledgeable about mmorpgs, and that you want to be able to invest based on your mmorpg knowledge in the future, I'm quite surprised that you haven't gathered more information, regarding pre-order sales and post-launch sales.

The newest example is Tera Online. They used the exact same Early access concept as TSW does now. They tripled their numbers from the days of early access to five days after launch. In their Early access period, almost the only people that were playing was the one that had pre-ordered it. There was almost zeró new people joining the game in that period. But after the launch though, people joined the game in an rapidly increasing haste the first five days.

  MMOarQQ

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7/02/12 3:02:29 PM#36

Maybe he was diagnosed with colon cancer. Quit ASSuming the worst.

  Kost

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7/02/12 3:06:27 PM#37
Originally posted by tares

 If launch was friday it didn't do so well.

Based on what?

The servers are packed, pvp is plentiful all hours of the day, finding groups is exceptionally easy and more new people are flooding in every hour. No real performance issues of note, great network stability, and excellent customer service response times.

Seems like a win to me.

  Johnnymmo

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7/02/12 3:08:20 PM#38
Actually stepping down now actually says that he has been successfully. His creative mind also stays so thats a great asset. And lastly if this was a bad thing then why would funcom stock rise 10% after the announcement. Nice try OP ;)
  Sameer1979

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7/02/12 3:08:29 PM#39
Originally posted by tares
Originally posted by highflying

 

There's been talk of this for several months, and he didn't resign 1 day before the launch, the launch was on friday.

I tried to positive spit it and claim the launch is tommorow. Maybe the population will go up 4 fold tomorrow and everything will go well.   If launch was friday it didn't do so well.

TBH I hope more MMOs come out with modern or future settings. It is popular, look at COD:Modern warfare an FPS that has an MMORPG leveling system.

I'm playing vampire masquerade as my RPG right now which is modern, and spending most my time in games I fly out to a tourny in 3 days for and expect to get WTF pawned in ( guess the tourny?). so I'm not a fan or hater, I just want to know why?

After my experince with SWTOR i really don't care for large numbers anymore. I would rather have a small and stable community like TSW has right now. The game launched without any major game breaking issues, if that is not a good launch then what is?

 

ANothe sad attempy by GW2 fan to desperately put TSW under bad light.

  rawfox

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7/02/12 3:11:05 PM#40

... what a misleading thread title ...

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