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  Vorch

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6/29/12 12:26:02 PM#141

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"As you read these words, a release is seven days or less away or has just happened within the last seven days— those are now the only two states you’ll find the world of Tyria."...Guild Wars 2

  p_c_sousa

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6/29/12 12:26:52 PM#142
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  Nanfoodle

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6/29/12 12:27:45 PM#143
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by LachyFTW

Just wait till it comes out and all the fanboys turn on the game when they get bored after a month or two.

Can't wait to have a laugh myself, I obvously see what most do not. There vision is very clouded if they think this is the next best mmo... It's not, really. Just sayin.

All I really care about in my MMO is having fun. GW2 delivers on that. If you like gear progression and MMOs that have to jump threw hoops to do X,Y,Z content GW2 is not for you. If you want accesss to everything you paid for and its based off skill to be able to see and finish content then GW2 is for you. Im a casual gamer and I am sick of not being able to see content because dont have 300hr to put into gearing up a char. I want my PvP to be fair. I want to see every dungeon. GW2 is that game and if you dont get it <<<shrugs>>> if you like grinding <<<shrugs>>> you really need to move on. If you want something different and GW2 is. Then I sugest you really put some time in this game because this game is just about the good stuff and nothing more.

  Sleepyfish

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6/29/12 12:32:03 PM#144
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They think these negative hype threads on  mmorpg.com actually matter.  They all also probably still  play SWTOR.

They are having a personal crisis becuase GW2 won't have 20 man raids.

  Creslin321

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6/29/12 12:32:46 PM#145
Originally posted by Skarecrow7
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by LachyFTW

Just wait till it comes out and all the fanboys turn on the game when they get bored after a month or two.

Can't wait to have a laugh myself, I obvously see what most do not. There vision is very clouded if they think this is the next best mmo... It's not, really. Just sayin.

I just cant wrap my head around this way of thinking. Maybe it was the way I was raised, but I just dont see how people can get all excited about wanting people to be disapointed. If someone buys something, I hope they get enjoyment out of it, I dont sit there hoping they get disapointed and angry. There is pesimists, and then there are people wanting a whole group to be miserable just because they dont like a video game. My guess is this is the reason shows like Jersey Show keep going.

 Sometimes, I get why people want a game to fail.  For example, I will admit, that a part of me wanted SWTOR to not do well.  But this was because I felt it represented everything wrong with the genre.  It was a huge budget game that turned out to have next to no innovation, hardly even felt like an MMORPG because of the huge focus on VO and single player story, and basically just copied WoW for anything resembling an MMORPG.  I felt like if it was a big success, then we would have more SWTOR-like games to look forward to in the future, and I really did not want that.

GW2 though...I really don't see what's to hate about it.  If you don't like it, that's fine...but it's not like it's completely derivative, it does a lot of different things, and it definitely feels like an MMORPG.  The only reason I can think of to want GW2 to fail is if you are a hardcore sandbox lover and just want all themeparks to die.

Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  xenogias

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6/29/12 12:33:09 PM#146
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by RizelStar
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by LachyFTW

Just wait till it comes out and all the fanboys turn on the game when they get bored after a month or two.

Can't wait to have a laugh myself, I obvously see what most do not. There vision is very clouded if they think this is the next best mmo... It's not, really. Just sayin.

Ahh so you cure cancer and walk on water too I see.

Not sure how I cure cancer or could walk on water from having good taste in video games?

Because only someone with a god complex is so completely full of themselves that they want someone to dislike something because THEY dont like it. Its pretty clear you do not understand what an opinion is.  Your sig is verry fitting.

  Draftbeer

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„Why Are You Wearing that Stupid Man Suit?”

6/29/12 12:35:48 PM#147
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  RizelStar

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6/29/12 12:37:08 PM#148

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But the meaning behind it was completely different.

Any ways since we are all blind by hype and not by what we experienced and only a selected [chosen ones] see what we don't see, I'm gonna go get some more popcorn.

I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.

I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.

P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)

Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.

  Kyus_HoB

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6/29/12 12:40:50 PM#149
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Skarecrow7
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by LachyFTW

Just wait till it comes out and all the fanboys turn on the game when they get bored after a month or two.

Can't wait to have a laugh myself, I obvously see what most do not. There vision is very clouded if they think this is the next best mmo... It's not, really. Just sayin.

I just cant wrap my head around this way of thinking. Maybe it was the way I was raised, but I just dont see how people can get all excited about wanting people to be disapointed. If someone buys something, I hope they get enjoyment out of it, I dont sit there hoping they get disapointed and angry. There is pesimists, and then there are people wanting a whole group to be miserable just because they dont like a video game. My guess is this is the reason shows like Jersey Show keep going.

 Sometimes, I get why people want a game to fail.  For example, I will admit, that a part of me wanted SWTOR to not do well.  But this was because I felt it represented everything wrong with the genre.  It was a huge budget game that turned out to have next to no innovation, hardly even felt like an MMORPG because of the huge focus on VO and single player story, and basically just copied WoW for anything resembling an MMORPG.  I felt like if it was a big success, then we would have more SWTOR-like games to look forward to in the future, and I really did not want that.

GW2 though...I really don't see what's to hate about it.  If you don't like it, that's fine...but it's not like it's completely derivative, it does a lot of different things, and it definitely feels like an MMORPG.  The only reason I can think of to want GW2 to fail is if you are a hardcore sandbox lover and just want all themeparks to die.

I almost felt like that about SWTOR as well mostly because Bioware reverted back to a standard mmo model on every decision that they originally came out with. The game ended up a shadow of what was originally promised. I still enjoyed it but I'm kind of glad that its been relatively unsuccesful to showcase that trying to please everybody does not build a good end product.

  p_c_sousa

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6/29/12 12:42:20 PM#150
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Skarecrow7
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by LachyFTW

Just wait till it comes out and all the fanboys turn on the game when they get bored after a month or two.

Can't wait to have a laugh myself, I obvously see what most do not. There vision is very clouded if they think this is the next best mmo... It's not, really. Just sayin.

I just cant wrap my head around this way of thinking. Maybe it was the way I was raised, but I just dont see how people can get all excited about wanting people to be disapointed. If someone buys something, I hope they get enjoyment out of it, I dont sit there hoping they get disapointed and angry. There is pesimists, and then there are people wanting a whole group to be miserable just because they dont like a video game. My guess is this is the reason shows like Jersey Show keep going.

 Sometimes, I get why people want a game to fail.  For example, I will admit, that a part of me wanted SWTOR to not do well.  But this was because I felt it represented everything wrong with the genre.  It was a huge budget game that turned out to have next to no innovation, hardly even felt like an MMORPG because of the huge focus on VO and single player story, and basically just copied WoW for anything resembling an MMORPG.  I felt like if it was a big success, then we would have more SWTOR-like games to look forward to in the future, and I really did not want that.

GW2 though...I really don't see what's to hate about it.  If you don't like it, that's fine...but it's not like it's completely derivative, it does a lot of different things, and it definitely feels like an MMORPG.  The only reason I can think of to want GW2 to fail is if you are a hardcore sandbox lover and just want all themeparks to die.

wait and you will see some guys saying GW2 is exactly a WoW based game, with same combat system, etc....just wait xD

  xenogias

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Joined: 9/13/07
Posts: 1945

6/29/12 12:42:29 PM#151
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Skarecrow7
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by LachyFTW

Just wait till it comes out and all the fanboys turn on the game when they get bored after a month or two.

Can't wait to have a laugh myself, I obvously see what most do not. There vision is very clouded if they think this is the next best mmo... It's not, really. Just sayin.

I just cant wrap my head around this way of thinking. Maybe it was the way I was raised, but I just dont see how people can get all excited about wanting people to be disapointed. If someone buys something, I hope they get enjoyment out of it, I dont sit there hoping they get disapointed and angry. There is pesimists, and then there are people wanting a whole group to be miserable just because they dont like a video game. My guess is this is the reason shows like Jersey Show keep going.

 Sometimes, I get why people want a game to fail.  For example, I will admit, that a part of me wanted SWTOR to not do well.  But this was because I felt it represented everything wrong with the genre.  It was a huge budget game that turned out to have next to no innovation, hardly even felt like an MMORPG because of the huge focus on VO and single player story, and basically just copied WoW for anything resembling an MMORPG.  I felt like if it was a big success, then we would have more SWTOR-like games to look forward to in the future, and I really did not want that.

GW2 though...I really don't see what's to hate about it.  If you don't like it, that's fine...but it's not like it's completely derivative, it does a lot of different things, and it definitely feels like an MMORPG.  The only reason I can think of to want GW2 to fail is if you are a hardcore sandbox lover and just want all themeparks to die.

I hope TSW falls flat on its face. Not because of the game itself or because funcom made it. But because I want to see the greedyness of Funcom make them go bankrupt. Doesnt mean I like th idea that it means thousands of people will be disapointed with a game they wanted to enjoy. There is a diffrence between wanting a game to fail and hopeing people are disapointed. One is wanting a company to flop the other is being a dickhead to players who want to enjoy the game.

  Creslin321

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Joined: 2/27/09
Posts: 5424

6/29/12 12:44:51 PM#152
Originally posted by p_c_sousa
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Skarecrow7
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by LachyFTW

Just wait till it comes out and all the fanboys turn on the game when they get bored after a month or two.

Can't wait to have a laugh myself, I obvously see what most do not. There vision is very clouded if they think this is the next best mmo... It's not, really. Just sayin.

I just cant wrap my head around this way of thinking. Maybe it was the way I was raised, but I just dont see how people can get all excited about wanting people to be disapointed. If someone buys something, I hope they get enjoyment out of it, I dont sit there hoping they get disapointed and angry. There is pesimists, and then there are people wanting a whole group to be miserable just because they dont like a video game. My guess is this is the reason shows like Jersey Show keep going.

 Sometimes, I get why people want a game to fail.  For example, I will admit, that a part of me wanted SWTOR to not do well.  But this was because I felt it represented everything wrong with the genre.  It was a huge budget game that turned out to have next to no innovation, hardly even felt like an MMORPG because of the huge focus on VO and single player story, and basically just copied WoW for anything resembling an MMORPG.  I felt like if it was a big success, then we would have more SWTOR-like games to look forward to in the future, and I really did not want that.

GW2 though...I really don't see what's to hate about it.  If you don't like it, that's fine...but it's not like it's completely derivative, it does a lot of different things, and it definitely feels like an MMORPG.  The only reason I can think of to want GW2 to fail is if you are a hardcore sandbox lover and just want all themeparks to die.

wait and you will see some guys saying GW2 is exactly a WoW based game, with same combat system, etc....just wait xD

 Hahah I'm sure, but poor argument is poor argument :).

Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  xenogias

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6/29/12 12:44:58 PM#153
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by xenogias
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by RizelStar
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by LachyFTW

Just wait till it comes out and all the fanboys turn on the game when they get bored after a month or two.

Can't wait to have a laugh myself, I obvously see what most do not. There vision is very clouded if they think this is the next best mmo... It's not, really. Just sayin.

Ahh so you cure cancer and walk on water too I see.

Not sure how I cure cancer or could walk on water from having good taste in video games?

Because only someone with a god complex is so completely full of themselves that they want someone to dislike something because THEY dont like it. Its pretty clear you do not understand what an opinion is.  Your sig is verry fitting.

That's your opinion, it's okay to be wrong...

Lucky for me I cant be wrong since its an opinion :)

  Distopia

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6/29/12 12:47:58 PM#154
Originally posted by Creslin321

 Sometimes, I get why people want a game to fail.  For example, I will admit, that a part of me wanted SWTOR to not do well.  But this was because I felt it represented everything wrong with the genre.  It was a huge budget game that turned out to have next to no innovation, hardly even felt like an MMORPG because of the huge focus on VO and single player story, and basically just copied WoW for anything resembling an MMORPG.  I felt like if it was a big success, then we would have more SWTOR-like games to look forward to in the future, and I really did not want that.

GW2 though...I really don't see what's to hate about it.  If you don't like it, that's fine...but it's not like it's completely derivative, it does a lot of different things, and it definitely feels like an MMORPG.  The only reason I can think of to want GW2 to fail is if you are a hardcore sandbox lover and just want all themeparks to die.

I could think of a few reasons someone may want a game to fail even GW2, that said it still makes absolutely no sense. Any fail is as much a black mark for the genre as a whole as it is for any individual company. The more fails we see the more people turn away from the genre. The more that turn away the less funding there will be.

Think about your comments about TOR for a second, how does such a huge project failing help this genre in any way? What seems to be a recipe for success failing does nothing but shake the foundation of this industry. On top of that all along you were looking forward to GW2. When what you want is all but in your grasp, why would you want another to fail? Does TOR have to fail for GW2 to be a success and add the influence you want into the genre?

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

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  Vorch

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6/29/12 12:52:38 PM#155

I really don't like seeing any games fail...competition breeds better games.

 

TOR, GW2, TERA, and TSW each bring something new to the table...some obviously more than others. It's taken a while, and some games are only comfortable taking baby steps, but we are moving away from EQ game design.

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  RizelStar

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6/29/12 12:52:55 PM#156
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by p_c_sousa
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Skarecrow7
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by LachyFTW

Just wait till it comes out and all the fanboys turn on the game when they get bored after a month or two.

Can't wait to have a laugh myself, I obvously see what most do not. There vision is very clouded if they think this is the next best mmo... It's not, really. Just sayin.

I just cant wrap my head around this way of thinking. Maybe it was the way I was raised, but I just dont see how people can get all excited about wanting people to be disapointed. If someone buys something, I hope they get enjoyment out of it, I dont sit there hoping they get disapointed and angry. There is pesimists, and then there are people wanting a whole group to be miserable just because they dont like a video game. My guess is this is the reason shows like Jersey Show keep going.

 Sometimes, I get why people want a game to fail.  For example, I will admit, that a part of me wanted SWTOR to not do well.  But this was because I felt it represented everything wrong with the genre.  It was a huge budget game that turned out to have next to no innovation, hardly even felt like an MMORPG because of the huge focus on VO and single player story, and basically just copied WoW for anything resembling an MMORPG.  I felt like if it was a big success, then we would have more SWTOR-like games to look forward to in the future, and I really did not want that.

GW2 though...I really don't see what's to hate about it.  If you don't like it, that's fine...but it's not like it's completely derivative, it does a lot of different things, and it definitely feels like an MMORPG.  The only reason I can think of to want GW2 to fail is if you are a hardcore sandbox lover and just want all themeparks to die.

wait and you will see some guys saying GW2 is exactly a WoW based game, with same combat system, etc....just wait xD

 Hahah I'm sure, but poor argument is poor argument :).

Would like to add, the wait ended a few months ago, I think I've already read those claims.

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  Skarecrow7

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Joined: 12/15/10
Posts: 342

6/29/12 1:08:47 PM#157
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Skarecrow7
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by LachyFTW

Just wait till it comes out and all the fanboys turn on the game when they get bored after a month or two.

Can't wait to have a laugh myself, I obvously see what most do not. There vision is very clouded if they think this is the next best mmo... It's not, really. Just sayin.

I just cant wrap my head around this way of thinking. Maybe it was the way I was raised, but I just dont see how people can get all excited about wanting people to be disapointed. If someone buys something, I hope they get enjoyment out of it, I dont sit there hoping they get disapointed and angry. There is pesimists, and then there are people wanting a whole group to be miserable just because they dont like a video game. My guess is this is the reason shows like Jersey Show keep going.

 Sometimes, I get why people want a game to fail.  For example, I will admit, that a part of me wanted SWTOR to not do well.  But this was because I felt it represented everything wrong with the genre.  It was a huge budget game that turned out to have next to no innovation, hardly even felt like an MMORPG because of the huge focus on VO and single player story, and basically just copied WoW for anything resembling an MMORPG.  I felt like if it was a big success, then we would have more SWTOR-like games to look forward to in the future, and I really did not want that.

GW2 though...I really don't see what's to hate about it.  If you don't like it, that's fine...but it's not like it's completely derivative, it does a lot of different things, and it definitely feels like an MMORPG.  The only reason I can think of to want GW2 to fail is if you are a hardcore sandbox lover and just want all themeparks to die.

The difference is you were more hoping that people would not buy swtor in the first place. Kinda like what I think of Diablo 3. I was hoping people would not buy it as much because of the always on line. I hoped it was going to be a good game and the people that did buy would enjoy. I am disapointed that it did sell so many, but hope that with all the problems, people learn their leason and dont buy a always on drm again. 

  doho7744

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Joined: 12/22/06
Posts: 34

6/29/12 1:16:08 PM#158
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by DonY81

Overhyped, its an ok game. I think its down to it being without a sub fee that helps.

Sorry to say it GW2 is not gonna be the next best thing, not for me anyway. TSW on the other hand ;-)

Lets compare Funcom/EA track record to NCsoft track record.  If I was in Vegas I'd go all in on GW2.

Let's do that shall we:

Funcom:  MMO's 3-2 had poor launches, but all are still running. 

NCSoft: MMO's (going english only) 12-several had poor launches and half have been closed.

So on the one hand you have a niche MMO creater that has some problems with launches but still keeps their mmo's open and fans entertained.  Then you have the company that has had some problems with some of their launches and sometimes these problems continue on thru game and when the company is displeased with the profitability of said game they just shut it down.  Hmmmm.  Look not trying to bash on NCSoft here, but let's be real.  NCSoft is about profit (as is Funcom to be sure) but ncsoft is much more bout bottom line and less about its fans.

With both companies publishing a comparable amount of games.  Funcom self publishes and NCSoft publishes 50/50 its own and others.  Just feels to me that Funcom is a game maker that publishes and NC is a publisher that makes games.

  Creslin321

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Posts: 5424

6/29/12 1:59:07 PM#159
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Creslin321

 Sometimes, I get why people want a game to fail.  For example, I will admit, that a part of me wanted SWTOR to not do well.  But this was because I felt it represented everything wrong with the genre.  It was a huge budget game that turned out to have next to no innovation, hardly even felt like an MMORPG because of the huge focus on VO and single player story, and basically just copied WoW for anything resembling an MMORPG.  I felt like if it was a big success, then we would have more SWTOR-like games to look forward to in the future, and I really did not want that.

GW2 though...I really don't see what's to hate about it.  If you don't like it, that's fine...but it's not like it's completely derivative, it does a lot of different things, and it definitely feels like an MMORPG.  The only reason I can think of to want GW2 to fail is if you are a hardcore sandbox lover and just want all themeparks to die.

I could think of a few reasons someone may want a game to fail even GW2, that said it still makes absolutely no sense. Any fail is as much a black mark for the genre as a whole as it is for any individual company. The more fails we see the more people turn away from the genre. The more that turn away the less funding there will be.

Think about your comments about TOR for a second, how does such a huge project failing help this genre in any way? What seems to be a recipe for success failing does nothing but shake the foundation of this industry. On top of that all along you were looking forward to GW2. When what you want is all but in your grasp, why would you want another to fail? Does TOR have to fail for GW2 to be a success and add the influence you want into the genre?

Not necessarily.

Why do you think so many games try to copy WoW?  The answer is pretty obvious...WoW is successful and made tons of money.  It shaped the direction the entire MMORPG genre took for years to come.

While I really liked WoW, and I still like a lot of the conventions that it invented/popularized, I am extremely tired of WoW in general, and all the games that try to shamelessly mimic it.  If SWTOR had been a massive success, then I can almost guarantee you that we would see more games that emulate the WoW model quite precisely for years to come.

But since SWTOR was not a smashing success, it was almost like the players telling the industry:  "Hey, we're tired of this.  Can you please try something else?"

The fact of the matter is that if an idea never stops generating money, then there's no reason to try something different.  IMO, sometimes a game based on an old idea needs to fail just to encourage others to take more risks.

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  Amana

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6/29/12 4:05:55 PM#160

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