Oh don't get me wrong- AOC was buggy as hell at release. But I stuck with it because of guild involvement/friends and ultimately enjoyed it. If you never bought it or played it how can you make a comment about it? Just curious. Just not getting the hate-on happening from folks that never played a product. I mean..I HATE liver...but I had to try it first to come to that conclusion :)

However aside from that I'm not trying to convert you, quite honestly...just interested in the F2P conversation and the utter surety a couple folks are espousing the game will go F2P shortly after launch. The business model has proven anything but that tendancy so it seems a pretty wild thing to toss into the conversation as unsupported by facts as it is. 

I'm not one of those folks that get offended when somone doesn't like a game I enjoy- I'm not paying for you to play ;). I just get irked by baseless arguments or conjecture :D

Originally posted by LachyFTW

Originally posted by Guardianwulf

Originally posted by LachyFTW

So many suckers in this thread buying lifetime subs for a soon to be free game.

Heh, AOC went F2P YEARS after release- and even then it was a very restrictive model barring a ton of content and goodies. Love how you have your crystal ball, though! Maybe do something useful with it like pick winning lottery tickets?

You are talking like if AOC was any good, it took me all of 30 minutes in CB to decide that I was not buying it and god was I right on that one.

So many MMO prophets around here.  A stopped clock is right twice a day.

I think F2P is already built into TSW and see it going that way in 12 months.  I like the idea of lifetime subs since you can pay for 14 months and get to play forever.  Funcom has also shown it will keep its games running for a long time, just look at AO.  Getting free points each month forever when it goes F2P is also a nice feature.  At $200, I think the lifetime is a very tempting offer if you played the beta and seem to like the game.  Even if you only play for 4 months out of each year it would pay for itself in less than 4 years. 

I also see MMO's moving to a move costly sub model in the future.  When you compare the $15 a month to other entertainment like going to the movies or going out to eat, the amount of enjoyment you get from MMO's is a great value.  They have been $15 a month for many years and a price increase to $20 a month is coming sometime in the next few years.  Jumping in now on a lifetime at this cost doesnt look so bad when you think about whats coming.

Originally posted by Impsy

Our only real feedback as consumers and players is our wallets. By buying a lifetime subscription you essentially remove that power. How you feel no longer matters because Funcom already has your money...

That's hilarious.

Who or what do you think you are? Some kind of millionaire walking into a Ferrari dealership? Like you can say "screw you, I'm taking my 500,000 and going to Lambourghini because you made me mad!!!".

Lol.

Originally posted by Hurvart

If they offer a lifetime sub you can be certain the game is planned to go f2p very soon after release.

You do know you lose all credibility when you make such ridiculous statements, don't you???

CoH offered a limited number of lifetime accounts, and when that number was reached they pulled it.  CoH didn't go free to play until a little over 5 years later!  Lotro lifers also took advantage for many years before Lotro went f2p.  Every title I have spent  years playing offered a lifer account and didn't go f2p until at least 3 years later.

Originally posted by JohnnyMotrin

Originally posted by Hurvart

If they offer a lifetime sub you can be certain the game is planned to go f2p very soon after release.

You do know you lose all credibility when you make such ridiculous statements, don't you???

 

CoH offered a limited number of lifetime accounts, and when that number was reached they pulled it.  CoH didn't go free to play until a little over 5 years later!  Lotro lifers also took advantage for many years before Lotro went f2p.  Every title I have spent  years playing offered a lifer account and didn't go f2p until at least 3 years later.

No, I dont think so. If you think something that last 3 years can be considered a lifetime service you are rediculos.

Its a matter of principle. If I buy a lifetime service I demand a lifetime service. I will accept nothing less. It will make no difference what excuses they have. If they after 3 years tell me they no longer offer that service I will call it fraud. Because it is... It makes no difference if they have new owners, use a different business model or whatever reasons they claim they have. I would just tell them I am entitled to the service and that they are forced to give it to me. And if they refuse I would perhaps call a lawyer.

It could be any product or service. As a consumer you have rights. You should stand up for that and never accept "bait and switch", false advertizing or broken promises in general.

Funcom is not like most companies. You are very optimistic if you believe a lifetime sub that you buy from them will last 3 years or more. If the game is not F2P after 12 months I woul be very surprised.