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The Secret World

The Secret World 

General Discussion  » Predict the score The Secret World will get.

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  Blacknd

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6/29/12 1:30:56 AM#41
Originally posted by tares

MMORPG gave SWTOR an 8.7 and since TSW is SWTOR with fewer quest options and bad combat and a different seting then I say the MMORPG T shirt may make up the difference and TSW will get an 8.7.

I give it a 6 for being a SWTOR clone with worse combat, fewer zones and settings as are only 3 areas and 8 zones, less endgame, poor combat, game mechanics that have not been fleshed out by developers like the skill wheel, the world of warcraft combat mechanic. No longevity as there are no raids.  PvP is killed by only PvE servers and bad combat but if there are faction imbalances like dragons in beta then is game braking.  90 % of quest are just like any game, go sabotage this, kill those npcs, or pick up that.  Unlike mmos with voice acting, TSW;s cutsceens often times have little to do with the quest you are doing IE some babling about chess or some random NPC interaction, when you get 4 stages of killing random NPCs. Feels like a single player RPG ala SWTOR.

10% of the quest are good, modern setting.

That's a new one from the negative crowd.

.. But in a good way.

  User Deleted
6/29/12 1:32:44 AM#42

lol@swtor clone

  Evokerz

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6/29/12 1:33:53 AM#43

In MMORPG no matter how good and popular the game is, the score will never get higher than SWTOR.

/sarcasm off

  Baffle

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6/29/12 1:35:29 AM#44
Originally posted by Krytycal

The rating will be largely dependant on each player's perspective.

Players who're looking for a good leveling experience/story/unique setting would rate this game arund 8-9.

Players who are looking for competitive PvP/hard core end-game raiding would rate this a 6-7.

I would actually agree with this one based on what's there at launch. It will be interresting to see how the game evolves in the next 6 monts - 1 year. This is crucial for any MMO. It's really bad when time is spent doing the wrong things.

  SaintPhilip

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6/29/12 1:38:51 AM#45

8-9 because thats what everything with a smitten of a budget gets.

We have not seen a below average game from a AAA complay in YEARSif you believe the reviews... In fact they have all been above average.

-There is no intergrity in Gaming reviews =(

(not to say TSW wont be worth an 8-9...It might...But it doesnt matter, thats what it will get)

  tares

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6/29/12 1:48:30 AM#46
Originally posted by Blacknd
Originally posted by tares

MMORPG gave SWTOR an 8.7 and since TSW is SWTOR with fewer quest options and bad combat and a different seting then I say the MMORPG T shirt may make up the difference and TSW will get an 8.7.

I give it a 6 for being a SWTOR clone with

That's a new one from the negative crowd.

Not really, it is a single player story driven RPG with fewer group instances, fewer raids, and generic PvP options.  Big war area like Illum or WoW's alterac valley but the other two PvP zones were well below average. In SWTOR you would finish your main story, play a bit and cancel, or roll an alt or the other faction for a new story and then quit. Hence the story based MMO sameness.

  tank017

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6/29/12 1:51:27 AM#47
Originally posted by Blacknd
Originally posted by tank017

as is it should get a 6.5 -7 at most...much like TOR

 

but yes,it will be getting much more generous numbers than that.

ToR got an 8.7

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/367/view/reviews/load/178/The-Official-SWTOR-Review.html

yes i know,Im saying ToR should have also gotten about a 6-6.5 at most.

  GTwander

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6/29/12 1:51:44 AM#48
Originally posted by tares
Originally posted by Blacknd
Originally posted by tares

MMORPG gave SWTOR an 8.7 and since TSW is SWTOR with fewer quest options and bad combat and a different seting then I say the MMORPG T shirt may make up the difference and TSW will get an 8.7.

I give it a 6 for being a SWTOR clone with

That's a new one from the negative crowd.

Not really, it is a single player story driven RPG with fewer group instances, fewer raids, and generic PvP options.  Big war area like Illum or WoW's alterac valley but the other two PvP zones were well below average. In SWTOR you would finish your main story, play a bit and cancel, or roll an alt or the other faction for a new story and then quit. Hence the story based MMO sameness.

Don't forget universal cooldowns.

You'd think they would have gotten a clue after the Warhammer fiasco.

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  Tamanous

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6/29/12 1:52:43 AM#49

I won't score it until about a solid month of playing ... as any review should be. Even then longevity ultimately is the most important factor in mmo review.

 

As for the 2-4 day wonder reviewers here ... I score them a solid 3.5/10 ... including the extra 1.5 thrown in simply because they managed to throw together a few coherent words of original thought from time to time. It's hard reading reviews from people who have no clue what they want in a game yet expect any game they play to fullfill every shortcoming in their life and their over generalized reviews reflect this.

 

"It sucks", "falls short", "fails" and many other Rhodes Scholar level explanations contribute so much to these reviews.

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  tank017

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6/29/12 1:55:04 AM#50
Originally posted by Bjelar
Originally posted by DaezAster

Only thing I will predict is me playing when it goes live...

I also predict five weeks with nothing but haters on these forums, because everyone else will be way too busy playing.. :)

well...

 

the haters were right about ToR..

 

as far as TSW goes,my bet would go with the haters as well.

 

just sayin.

  Lord.Bachus

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6/29/12 1:56:50 AM#51

Personally i think SWTOR will end up for me just like TSW did, fun to play for some time, and then i will move on. Its a nice setting, and the story feels enthralling.

 

So an 8.7 would be a nice thing.  But only if GW2 ends up with 9.5 or higher.

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  Blacknd

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6/29/12 1:59:05 AM#52
Originally posted by tares
Originally posted by Blacknd
Originally posted by tares

MMORPG gave SWTOR an 8.7 and since TSW is SWTOR with fewer quest options and bad combat and a different seting then I say the MMORPG T shirt may make up the difference and TSW will get an 8.7.

I give it a 6 for being a SWTOR clone with

That's a new one from the negative crowd.

Not really, it is a single player story driven RPG with fewer group instances, fewer raids, and generic PvP options.  Big war area like Illum or WoW's alterac valley but the other two PvP zones were well below average. In SWTOR you would finish your main story, play a bit and cancel, or roll an alt or the other faction for a new story and then quit. Hence the story based MMO sameness.

So your entire basis for calling it a SWTOR clone is that both games put a much heavier emphasis on story than the average MMORPG. That's essentially the only thing these two games have in common that they don't typically share with other MMOs.

It ignores the class system, talent system, level system, the fact that SWToR has systems in place that encourages alts while TSW discourages it just a bit less than FFXI.

Methinks you tried too hard to sum it up into a sensationalist little quip. 

.. But in a good way.

  Vutar

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6/29/12 2:00:16 AM#53

I would say TSW probably should be around 7 but it will get higher from sites like this one.

  Caldrin

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6/29/12 2:02:58 AM#54

I believe it should get a good solid 8.. best themepark MMORPG for years, needs a few tweaks here and there to make it a 9..

 

as for what score this site will give it.. humm thats a hard one with the t-shirt and all that.. will be high i guess..

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  tank017

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6/29/12 2:03:13 AM#55
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Personally i think SWTOR will end up for me just like TSW did, fun to play for some time, and then i will move on. Its a nice setting, and the story feels enthralling.

 

So an 8.7 would be a nice thing.  But only if GW2 ends up with 9.5 or higher.

God forbid GW2 gets beat out..

 

worlds would collide.

  tares

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6/29/12 3:04:17 AM#56
Originally posted by Blacknd
Originally posted by tares
Originally posted by Blacknd
Originally posted by tares

MMORPG gave SWTOR an 8.7 and since TSW is SWTOR with fewer quest options and bad combat and a different seting then I say the MMORPG T shirt may make up the difference and TSW will get an 8.7.

I give it a 6 for being a SWTOR clone with

That's a new one from the negative crowd.

Not really, it is a single player story driven RPG with fewer group instances, fewer raids, and generic PvP options.  Big war area like Illum or WoW's alterac valley but the other two PvP zones were well below average. In SWTOR you would finish your main story, play a bit and cancel, or roll an alt or the other faction for a new story and then quit. Hence the story based MMO sameness.

So your entire basis for calling it a SWTOR clone is that both games put a much heavier emphasis on story than the average MMORPG. That's essentially the only thing these two games have in common that they don't typically share with other MMOs.

It ignores the class system, talent system, level system, the fact that SWToR has systems in place that encourages alts while TSW discourages it just a bit less than FFXI.

Methinks you tried too hard to sum it up into a sensationalist little quip. 

No I mentioned everything you brought up in my OP to justify why its score should be lower.  My words of choice were "poor combat" and "game mechanics that are not fleshed out." Complexity does not shroud flaws.

 

 

  Connmacart

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6/29/12 3:21:41 AM#57

It will get a higher score than it dhould simply due to the ingame tshirt. Anyone that thinks such an item doesn't influence is extremely naive or just plain dumb. It should be rated somewhere between 7 and 8, but will get higher due to stroking of the ego by Funcom with the tshirt.

 

  Mouth

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6/29/12 3:23:27 AM#58

DEFINATELY higher than TOR. IMO TSW should get a 10/10 because of:

 

- Originality

- Skillsystem

- Setting

- Voice acting

- Story

- Independent developer

- Moving the genre forward

 

I am also glad to see that many people are ACCEPTING that pay-to-play IS STILL a valid business model to keep QUALITY MMOs alive instead of the crappy F2P. And TSW is a QUALITY MMO - the best I've seen for many years.

 

I've played ALL beta week-ends, and the GAME NEEDS that you take 2-3 hours with it before making up your mind, fight into the Savage Coast and see why it rolls and rocks and is just plain awesome. KIDS will be going "awwww animations" - hey, when i started playing, THERE WERE NONE and the games WERE STILL GREAT. Let the whiners cry about wanting F2P - it's not what the MMO industry is buit on.

 

EARLY ACCESS STARTS TODAY. See you (some of you) in-game, awesomeness ahead!

 

  User Deleted
6/29/12 3:25:39 AM#59

"Official" reviews are almost always payed.

"Player reviews" aren't any better to listen too. Diffferent gamers have different tastes and will score a bad, not based on the overall elements and mechanics of a game, but on a certain features. In the case of TSW, the combat is so bad to some that it cans trike out 2-3 points. To me, it's such an small part of why i care about the game, that's it's no big deal.

The only review that matters is your own. And as it as been stated times before, even outside of this thread, review is another way of saying personall opinion. To me, TSW's problems are CC, animations and combat (abit). Also, Fusang. However, the rest of the game is very original and unique and it's not a wow clone. To me, that puts it far ahead of Rift, which is the number 1 on the ranking (except EVE).

Also, why should i care about reviews again?

  Lord.Bachus

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6/29/12 3:31:15 AM#60

Actually the final verdict in an MMO is not whats important... because diffeerent people have different opnions and value different things. But almost any indepth game review is good when you read through it and base your opinion on the things written down. That should be enough for everyone to find out if they will like it, or not, and probably how long the game might keep your attention.

 

With most MMO´s i know upfront that they will probably keep my attention for a limitted time only, i pre ordered TSW to play through its story a single time, just as i did with SWTOR. I had a good time playing my month in SWTOR, and so will i when playing TSW. Probably even better because of how much i like the dark nature of the story.

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