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  Unlight

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6/27/12 1:59:20 PM#21
Originally posted by Rednecksith

I'm still waiting for them to include deities from Abrahamic religions. There's really no reason to exclude them when there's deities from other active religions in the game. Why should Islam and Christianity be exempt?

Because they bitch the loudest and tend to vote in blocks.

Love how Todd Harris hangs them with their own rope in the response though.  What a clever, pre-evolved hominid.

  Sinkael

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6/27/12 1:59:41 PM#22

Neither Jesus nor Muhammad are dieties, they are both prophets or in the case of Jesus the most you could say is Demi-God but that is pushing it.  Jesus wasn't even considered the son of God until the Council of Nicea (I believe, or at least that was when it was affirmed).

So adding them as playable dieties wouldn't make any sense and since the game is using Panteons it requires that the religion have more than one god in it. Yaweh, wouldn't make since either being that he is not a member of a pantheon.

 

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  Castillle

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6/27/12 2:16:04 PM#23
Originally posted by Sinkael

Neither Jesus nor Muhammad are dieties, they are both prophets or in the case of Jesus the most you could say is Demi-God but that is pushing it.  Jesus wasn't even considered the son of God until the Council of Nicea (I believe, or at least that was when it was affirmed).

So adding them as playable dieties wouldn't make any sense and since the game is using Panteons it requires that the religion have more than one god in it. Yaweh, wouldn't make since either being that he is not a member of a pantheon.

 

Arachne and Sun Wukong are not dieties either but they are included.

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  Sinkael

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6/27/12 2:41:20 PM#24
Originally posted by Castillle
Originally posted by Sinkael

Neither Jesus nor Muhammad are dieties, they are both prophets or in the case of Jesus the most you could say is Demi-God but that is pushing it.  Jesus wasn't even considered the son of God until the Council of Nicea (I believe, or at least that was when it was affirmed).

So adding them as playable dieties wouldn't make any sense and since the game is using Panteons it requires that the religion have more than one god in it. Yaweh, wouldn't make since either being that he is not a member of a pantheon.

 

Arachne and Sun Wukong are not dieties either but they are included.

True, and an argument could be made using them but their story is vastly different from that of Muhammad or Jesus, both where mortal, Arachne was changed by a god into spider and Su Wukong was never really mortal (a monkey born of a stone with supernatural abilities). 

Technically the Egyptian pantheon weren't gods either, simply Pharoes worshiped as gods.

It comes down to where you want to draw the line, and since it is Hi-Rez's game they get to draw the line.

Though I wouldn't mind seeing some of the "Saints" make an appearance, that would be fair.

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  Sameer1979

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6/27/12 2:46:56 PM#25

Hindus are mostly peaceful people. How many times have we seen there dieties being used on just everything? t shirts, shoes, liquor bottles...and yet ever heard of a hindu threatning to blow up people? so Hi Rez got nothing to worry about.

I mean Bhagwad Geeta was banned in Russia because some people feared it will brain wash masses and what did Hindus do? peaceful protest.

Try banning book of Muslims or Christains or put their respective prophets in game or put their pictures on liquor or shoes and see all hell break loose.

Hi Rez are just bunch of hypocrites.

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6/27/12 2:51:58 PM#26

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  HighMarshal

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6/27/12 3:10:27 PM#27

If they are going to put Jesus in the game, shouldn't he be a gardener or something like that?

  Amana

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6/27/12 3:18:08 PM#28

Hi guys, just want to ask that this not turn into a religious debate or get out of hand. You know what this means. 

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  Popple

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6/27/12 3:26:35 PM#29

Really? I mean REALLY? Just make a dam fun game.I would not care if they add MMORPG.Com Staff into it as a Ban hammer God...

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  Clocksimus

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6/27/12 3:27:47 PM#30
Originally posted by Castillle

Hi-Rez stance on jesus

No way around that one.

 

But really it's just a video game and they aren't trying to anything but make a fun game with gods  inspired from well-known places.

 

If Hindu gods were excluded all together before the complaint, would their be one about the discrimination of Hinduism as a relgion and why isn't it good enough to be represented in the game?

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6/27/12 4:17:43 PM#31
Originally posted by Popple

Really? I mean REALLY? Just make a dam fun game.I would not care if they add MMORPG.Com Staff into it as a Ban hammer God...

Holy crap! WANT! I wish I had upvotes to give you. :)

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  darkedone02

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6/27/12 4:42:07 PM#32

20 bucks says that jesus going to be a support character!

  uidCaustic

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6/27/12 5:04:56 PM#33

How -DARE- they?!  Next the Easter Bunny and Santa will be included!  I swear, if they add leprechauns, I'm going to tell Jesus on them!

  Lustmord

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6/27/12 5:45:20 PM#34

lol +1 Hi-Rez Studios. Personally, I hope they use Jesus Christ as a character in their game. He could be a healer-tank hybrid. He could fill a support role, curing blindness and resurrecting dead players... but he should also be one helluva tank, cuz we all know what kind of beating JC can take. If he dies early in the game, he should auto-resurrect 3 minutes later, and then promptly leave the game for the rest of the match.

  Blindchance

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6/27/12 5:49:10 PM#35

Silly religious people, they never stop amusing me.

  Destai

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6/27/12 7:42:40 PM#36

I would love to see a company or celebrity who has offended a group of people to tell them to get over it. It's sacred to you, fine, it's not sacred to everyone. I can't believe in this day and age people still get upset about others making fun of their religion. It's a game and it includes religions from the spectrum of human beliefs. I would consider the developers respectful because they are actually acknowledging the legitimacy of that religion on the course of human events. 

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  Bullroar

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6/27/12 7:50:50 PM#37

This really does make me think though... how long do you think before a buddy jesus skin comes out?

  Wizardry

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6/27/12 7:51:17 PM#38
Originally posted by Mithrandolir
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Hard not to offend anyone these days.  Too many people feel empowered by the can't hurt anyone's feelings brigade that has inundated our society.  It is a game, nothing whatsoever to do with a religion.

I agree 100% and loved Todd's responce to the issue.

 

Wel lthat would NOT be a fair argument.That is like saying it is ok to put porn and sell drugs and have pictures displaying sexual violence inside a game because >>>"it is just a game"?

if you are going to use religeous concepts within a game,then you should just stand up for the why you are doing it never  use the "just a game" excuse for an argument.

I am definitely not a religeous expert by any stretch but i imagine that factions get angry over misusing religeon to display violence or any other degrading act.I feel they do deserve some slack ,after all the world is seriously losing moral values badly by the day.

I do not know much about Smite to know how they are using the concept,so i can't say if they are perhaps stepping on bad ground using the loose term >>"Just gaming".I know the game is just a battlegrounds ,i guess one simple small map where everyone goes nuts.I notice a statue or something that players try to destroy,is that the deity?Or is Deity just a imaginable fictation where by players belong to one to get buffs?

 

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  GTwander

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6/27/12 7:54:20 PM#39

Right... where was this group when the SMT series rehashed every single Hindi god as Personae, or when Atlus used the chakaras as locations for Digital Devil Saga, or every single time a Final Fantasy game releases with summons/guardianforces/espers... whatever the hell they wanna call in in each round?

Way to be picky and choose the right time for exposure, assholes.

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  xenogias

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6/27/12 8:16:59 PM#40
Originally posted by Destai

I would love to see a company or celebrity who has offended a group of people to tell them to get over it. It's sacred to you, fine, it's not sacred to everyone. I can't believe in this day and age people still get upset about others making fun of their religion. It's a game and it includes religions from the spectrum of human beliefs. I would consider the developers respectful because they are actually acknowledging the legitimacy of that religion on the course of human events. 

What do you mean "in this day and age people still get upset"? In "this day and age" you cant say or do ANYTHING that would offend another person without having to worry about a lawsuit, complaint, or a suicide bomber showing up on your doorstep. Fact is, no matter what you do, what you say, what your intent is, its going to piss someone off.

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