This is a poll on your personal opinion about housing. How important is housing to you?

I tried to give a range of options, consolidating "Like It" to "Hate It" along with "Would Play" or "Would Not Play".

Has there actually been any recent mmo's with housing? I kind of miss it from daoc.

as have been pointed out the option for my position isnt there.

Yes IF it was done differently.

No if its done the way most MMOs do it.

Housing is explictly designed to not involve itself in character developement or intersect with other players. Its designed to not be a fundemental part of the game, its design to fail in my view. it doesnt HAVE to be designed this way

I am indifferent. I don't care about it .. but i won't avoid a game if it is there.

In fact, housing, if exists, is usually optional. So no one should hate something that you don't even need to pay attention to.

There should be a "i am indifferent, i don't care" option for the poll.

I haven't played MMORPGS (I could be called a casual player) but the only housing I noticed was in Runes of Magic. It was instanced and kind of boring and in the end I didn't bother with it. If the housing wasn't instanced, at least the location of the house, I might be more interested, with a buying/selling system etc.

I dislike it but would play if required although I'd wish the dev would spend that development time on some other, more important feature.

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Originally posted by SEANMCAD
as have been pointed out the option for my position isnt there.

Yes IF it was done differently.

No if its done the way most MMOs do it.

 

Housing is explictly designed to not involve itself in character developement or intersect with other players. Its designed to not be a fundemental part of the game, its design to fail in my view. it doesnt HAVE to be designed this way

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     I like having housing in a game if it is well done......Too often it feels like an afterthought though...... The more interaction I have with the house (ie design, building, adding on, etc) the better.....I also dont mind if its a money sink as long as the house has a purpose and is fun to play with.

Housing's fun. I remember back when I played a nelf on WoW I used to go pick one of the houses in Darnassus and make it mine. It's fun having em cause it adds to RP.

Originally posted by lizardbones

 

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Originally posted by SEANMCAD
as have been pointed out the option for my position isnt there.

 

Yes IF it was done differently.

No if its done the way most MMOs do it.

 

Housing is explictly designed to not involve itself in character developement or intersect with other players. Its designed to not be a fundemental part of the game, its design to fail in my view. it doesnt HAVE to be designed this way

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I'm not trying to get a feel for opinions on the types of housing. Maybe if there were only two possible ways to do housing, I might have tried to approach it, but there are several, with several nuances to the different types of housing. There are only 10 slots in the poll so I stuck with generalities.

I'm really just trying to get a feel for housing in general. If it helps, think of it as, "housing as you see it designed", instead of just the general term "housing".

I'm honestly surprised there are people who dislike housing enough to not play a game with housing. I really just put those options in there to balance the poll out.

** edit **
Added, "There are only 10 slots in the poll so I stuck with generalities."

 

but it frames the question unfairly doesnt it?

I dont like housing in MMOs so I would be a vote for dont like. Does that mean I dont like housing? hell no.

so I mean if you want to get real information you need to take this into consideration, if you just want to push an agenda despite the truth then you have the right path in mind. The problem is, in the end, truth usually wins anyway.

Between SWG and DAOC I have not seen another MMO bring housing out on the same level or even at all in most cases. If the housing is done correctly as it was in the two games mentioned above, then it is deffinately worth it and I would utilize it to its fullest capabilities and in an RP role.

I love it! if implemented properly.  I prefer the old SWG system to the way DaOC and EQ2 did it.  But I think housing should be in MMO's and I think players should have the ability to express themselves via thier housing choice.

I thought SWTOR had a good idea making your ship your house, but it was very restrictive in that it was the only option.  I would like to see more options, every thing from a flat in a major city (EQ2), to a guild built castle (AoC and SWG style) to what SWTOR did.  I realize that would require dedicating a lot of resources to one part of a game but, if you're going to make a triple A title why not go all out?  Also, do not make it mandatory to have a house in order to store junk you collect.  Again, choice, housing is not everyones cup o chai.

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Originally posted by SEANMCAD

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Originally posted by lizardbones  

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Originally posted by SEANMCAD as have been pointed out the option for my position isnt there.   Yes IF it was done differently. No if its done the way most MMOs do it.   Housing is explictly designed to not involve itself in character developement or intersect with other players. Its designed to not be a fundemental part of the game, its design to fail in my view. it doesnt HAVE to be designed this way

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I'm not trying to get a feel for opinions on the types of housing. Maybe if there were only two possible ways to do housing, I might have tried to approach it, but there are several, with several nuances to the different types of housing. There are only 10 slots in the poll so I stuck with generalities. I'm really just trying to get a feel for housing in general. If it helps, think of it as, "housing as you see it designed", instead of just the general term "housing". I'm honestly surprised there are people who dislike housing enough to not play a game with housing. I really just put those options in there to balance the poll out. ** edit ** Added, "There are only 10 slots in the poll so I stuck with generalities."  

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but it frames the question unfairly doesnt it?

I dont like housing in MMOs so I would be a vote for dont like. Does that mean I dont like housing? hell no.

so I mean if you want to get real information you need to take this into consideration, if you just want to push an agenda despite the truth then you have the right path in mind. The problem is, in the end, truth usually wins anyway.

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Housing is the most basic thing for a sucessfull mmorpg

"required"?  What game requires housing?

None of these options make sense.

Housing can be fun, but games with no housing can be fun.  Games with no combat can be fun.

To only comment on my personal history in MMORPGs, housing often isn't fun.  It often detracts from the core gameplay of a game (dev hours spent on housing mean less features central to the game's primary theme.)  Only in a few isolated cases where the core gameplay revolved around crafting did housing feel like it "fit" in a game.

Read this first before you post your answer in the poll.

"Housing" refers to housing as you see it. If you've ever played a game, and liked the housing in that game, then you like housing. You would vote on the positive side of the poll. If you can think of some form of playing housing in your head, whether it exists or not, and you like it, then you like housing, vote on the positive side of the poll.

The idea is more to answer, "Do players want housing?". Not, "Do players like current housing implementations?".

"Muffins"  LOL, that was pretty funny

Originally posted by lizardbones

 

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Originally posted by SEANMCAD

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Originally posted by lizardbones  

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Originally posted by SEANMCAD as have been pointed out the option for my position isnt there.   Yes IF it was done differently. No if its done the way most MMOs do it.   Housing is explictly designed to not involve itself in character developement or intersect with other players. Its designed to not be a fundemental part of the game, its design to fail in my view. it doesnt HAVE to be designed this way

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I'm not trying to get a feel for opinions on the types of housing. Maybe if there were only two possible ways to do housing, I might have tried to approach it, but there are several, with several nuances to the different types of housing. There are only 10 slots in the poll so I stuck with generalities. I'm really just trying to get a feel for housing in general. If it helps, think of it as, "housing as you see it designed", instead of just the general term "housing". I'm honestly surprised there are people who dislike housing enough to not play a game with housing. I really just put those options in there to balance the poll out. ** edit ** Added, "There are only 10 slots in the poll so I stuck with generalities."  

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but it frames the question unfairly doesnt it?

 

I dont like housing in MMOs so I would be a vote for dont like. Does that mean I dont like housing? hell no.

so I mean if you want to get real information you need to take this into consideration, if you just want to push an agenda despite the truth then you have the right path in mind. The problem is, in the end, truth usually wins anyway.

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You are way over thinking this. There is no agenda, other than seeing how people feel about player housing. I'll update the OP to make sure it's clear we're talking about fictional housing though...for a possible future game, not current or past games.

** edit **

Er...maybe I won't. I don't know if I can edit the post without borking the poll.

 

It is not impossible for me to over state how critically important it is to consider housing intergrated into the rest of the game play as an extreemly important highly focused point when talking about housing. it is absolutly and totally radically different if its not and I am not expressing it because its something I personally think is important. its the difference between a car component that makes the car move vs. a kids toy in the back seat.

Love IF house is open world and devs put some meaningfulness to it - like in example ability to hire NPC to put near house selling player wares / buy other things from players and other uses apart of just beign a storage.

Don't care about instanced housing at all.

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Originally posted by Axehilt
"required"?  What game requires housing?

None of these options make sense.

House can be fun, but games with no housing can be fun.  Games with no combat can be fun.

To only comment on my personal history in MMORPGs, housing often isn't fun.  It often detracts from the core gameplay of a game (dev hours spent on housing mean less features central to the game's primary theme.)

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