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  Silvermink

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6/26/12 2:06:13 AM#221
Originally posted by Aeolrone.

where did you get that from? I was backing eve up ya nutcase LOL!

Yeah I agree with you for sure! But games like EQ and vangaurd are pretty good sandbox games too, and yes EQ is a sandbox! don't say otherwise or solesk ro will burn your ass hahaha

EQ was a sandbox 10 years ago. From GoD on it's been full Themepark. The last 4 or 5 expac's have been very heavy linear.

 

Originally posted by kiiix
Regardless this isn't about GW2.  Aion is the second largest MMORPG in the world.  It failed in the west because of the culture gap between playstyles.  DDO was actually successful when it went F2P.  Many questioned why Turbine would convert its two properties, but the answer was clear.  They needed new blood to get injected into the game.

OFF-TOPIC

Where do you get this info if i might ask? Both Runescape, Maple Story and Perfect World International have a much higher player base than aion could ever dream of having.

 

I was thinking the same thing. And DDO was never successful even if you stretch the meaning to include it in MMOs.

  someforumguy

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6/26/12 2:11:03 AM#222
Originally posted by Teilo

Why so expensive in the UK?

(Please don't try the VAT excuse: every sub charges that.)

I like the game, but not that much.

I'm not paying that.

That is pretty steep and I agree with you that it doesn't make much sense compared to other UK prices for MMO subs. Maybe they are trying to establish some exclusive MMO brand lol.

  korat102

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6/26/12 2:13:17 AM#223

Hopefully someone just made a mistake which they'll rectify pretty soon. If not, they can probably kiss their EU subscriber base goodbye. These days, few people can justify paying that much every month for a game.

  Aeolron

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Everyones a mmo vet these days :P

6/26/12 2:16:51 AM#224
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by Aeolron
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by Aeolron
Originally posted by jdnyc
Originally posted by Phry

why is Funcom charging players more in one area than it is in another

Better point is Why is NCSoft doing the same thing for box sales of GW2.  This isn't just about the EVIL Funcom trying to milk the Brits out of cash.  It has wider implications.

I would honestly like to know myself, but I have no clue as to why that is? Maybe a failing econ , government , pound ect? No clue

NCSoft's excuse was the cost of shipping the game boxes to EU and GB retailers is the reason for the higher price. I don't buy it but that was their excuse.

Which still doesn't excuse Funcom's higher subscription costs from GB. Since you don't need to ship subscriptions.

this may seem critical , so no offence, do you work for those companies? Because if you don't then you really don't know if it's an excuse or not, plus shipping anything now in todays age is becoming very very exspensive which means the cost of the items in question are going to go up and up , that goes for everything.

Just ask them how much they pay for a loaf of bread and convert it to our dollar or any grocery item and you'll see.

You can google this stuff, you know.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/29/ncsoft-explains-na-and-eu-collectors-edition-price-difference/

Thats what I said in my previous post LOL

Anyways it's pretty easy to put this stuff on speculation , maybe it's an error but i don't think so.

  Caldrin

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6/26/12 2:16:54 AM#225

Yes its a bit expensive in the UK and that does suck donkey balls...

but.. and this is a big but... the game is probally the best themepark game to be released for a bloody long time and there does not look to be anything better coming along soon.. so yes it might be a tad expensive but its well worth it..

 

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  Maitrader

Novice Member

Joined: 7/29/08
Posts: 431

6/26/12 2:17:46 AM#226
Originally posted by evolver1972

Stop buying sub-based games.  That solves your problem right there.

 

lol. Almost comical how simple-minded this statement is.

  someforumguy

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6/26/12 2:18:51 AM#227
Originally posted by Ashen_X
Originally posted by Tardcore
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Keep in mind that the US sum includes sales tax and the US one does not.


Typical American, thinks the USA is the only country in the world.

 

Well I was actually thinking of trying this game out if the launch wasn't a typical Funcom disaster, but now I think I'll pass as I refuse to pay that much for a game sub on general principle.

 

Typical individual from Minsk, incapable of reading a map.

 

Not a problem though. I will provide you with your first geography lesson:

 

The Netherlands, Lord.Bachus' listed home, is not a part of the United States.

It was a joke. Lord Bacchus clearly made a typo (wrote twice US instead of UK and US) and he made fun of it. But now the joke is on you lol.

  wrightstuf

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Joined: 8/12/09
Posts: 714

6/26/12 2:19:09 AM#228
Originally posted by Kreedz

From what I have played and experienced, the game Isn't even worth the box price.

The animations are shoddy, the quests (save for a few) are extremely monotonous, and one feels like a bystander during the cutscenes with your character because they never speak or offer anything to the conversations.

In my opinion this will be F2P within 4 months, I doubt it will even get to the 6 month mark, and then there will be hell to pay from the people who have subscribed or worse; bought the lifetime subcription.

Who the h cares if you like the game or not? yeech, why do people feel compelled to derail threads to input their meaningless, off topic likes and dislikes...this thread has already been derailed by the which pay model is best.

the dang topic is...or i should say...was....about why funcom is charging more for UK subs

  Aeolron

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Everyones a mmo vet these days :P

6/26/12 2:19:39 AM#229
Originally posted by Silvermink
Originally posted by Aeolrone.

where did you get that from? I was backing eve up ya nutcase LOL!

Yeah I agree with you for sure! But games like EQ and vangaurd are pretty good sandbox games too, and yes EQ is a sandbox! don't say otherwise or solesk ro will burn your ass hahaha

EQ was a sandbox 10 years ago. From GoD on it's been full Themepark. The last 4 or 5 expac's have been very heavy linear.

 

Originally posted by kiiix
Regardless this isn't about GW2.  Aion is the second largest MMORPG in the world.  It failed in the west because of the culture gap between playstyles.  DDO was actually successful when it went F2P.  Many questioned why Turbine would convert its two properties, but the answer was clear.  They needed new blood to get injected into the game.

OFF-TOPIC

Where do you get this info if i might ask? Both Runescape, Maple Story and Perfect World International have a much higher player base than aion could ever dream of having.

 

I was thinking the same thing. And DDO was never successful even if you stretch the meaning to include it in MMOs.

Thats a weird comment to make that EQ was a sandbox 10 years ago, it still is! I know I am playing it LOL

Some of the expacs are linear, but meh just don't care as long as your having fun.

Bottom line , EQ is STILL a sandbox!

  Maitrader

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Joined: 7/29/08
Posts: 431

6/26/12 2:19:52 AM#230
Originally posted by MoonBeans

a very pricey subs fee.  a cash shop.  and some of the most hideous looking character models in MMO history.  this game surely has the secret for success!

With close-minded misers such as yourself out of the games population, it almost certain is the secret for success! :)

  fenistil

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Joined: 9/22/11
Posts: 3016

6/26/12 2:55:34 AM#231
Originally posted by Aeolron

Bottom line , EQ is STILL a sandbox!

EQ sandbox.... da fak ? 0_o

  Corehaven

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6/26/12 3:04:06 AM#232
Originally posted by Maitrader
Originally posted by MoonBeans

a very pricey subs fee.  a cash shop.  and some of the most hideous looking character models in MMO history.  this game surely has the secret for success!

With close-minded misers such as yourself out of the games population, it almost certain is the secret for success! :)

 

Yea because less people playing it is always a good thing.  Maybe for the anti social who loves mmos.  Ironic?  Yea that is indeed. 

 

For the company and the game itself not so much.  I always chuckle when I see players say stuff like, " Fine.  See ya.  Dont let the door hit you on the way out."   Yea because thats good for the company you support. 

  Ichmen

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6/26/12 3:12:16 AM#233

from what i played of TSW, the price they are asking is too much regardless if its NA or UK. while i do not agree with the price they want the UK to pay.  seems like a gouge to me, as there is no honest reason for the increased price. even claiming currancy conversion is BS. as a digital sold game shouldnt be effected by currencys. as a person in the UK would not be buying it at USD but euro/pound/mark/frank...ect. there is no reason for them to expect players in another country to pay with usd over their own local currency.

have they given any actually truthful honest reason for the increased price?? iv seen replies of  VAT being the reason or currency conversion.. but both are BS. as the VAT should be in the base price already, from what i understand of how that is calculated.

 

seems stupid to charge that like twice or whatseems like twice.  as thousands of other games do not charge like they are. 

i could see the currency being the issue, IF other games charged it as well. but none do.. so really what is it that EVE and WoW are doing that is different to TSW?? that they do not charge that same increased price?? both are sub with cash shop... seems  messed up to me frankly.

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  Wicoa

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6/26/12 3:33:38 AM#234

The price PCM is the highest I have ever seen a company charge, however you can pay the USD version which will equal about 9/10 quid.  Even if they nurf that I will source time cards from america through family.

If you want to play the game people there are ways around.  I am still not sure about this whole thing and the game even.

I will say this for free, I'd rather pay and play this than play GW2 dunno why just didnt gel with GW2.

  SlickShoes

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6/26/12 3:42:16 AM#235
Originally posted by Saxonblade

I find it funny how GW2 does this with the box price but that is ok because GW2 is such the golden boy on these forums. If you posted that on the GW2 forums you would instantly be attacked and shot down as someone that is a hater, go figure.........

Yeah GW2 does this on the GW2 website, but you can go to ANY OTHER RETAILER online and order the GW2 box for a much more reasonable price. £34.99 on amazon and play.com. Gamestop.co.uk even have the collectors edition for £109.

  korat102

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6/26/12 3:52:06 AM#236
Originally posted by SlickShoes
Originally posted by Saxonblade

I find it funny how GW2 does this with the box price but that is ok because GW2 is such the golden boy on these forums. If you posted that on the GW2 forums you would instantly be attacked and shot down as someone that is a hater, go figure.........

Yeah GW2 does this on the GW2 website, but you can go to ANY OTHER RETAILER online and order the GW2 box for a much more reasonable price. £34.99 on amazon and play.com. Gamestop.co.uk even have the collectors edition for £109.

Also, GW2 is a one-off payment. Once you've bought the thing therre is no further requirement to pay anything. You can log in as and when you like without the nagging feeling that you haven't got your money's worth that month. Games have to really stand out from the crowd to get away with a subscription based model these days.

  Aeolron

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Everyones a mmo vet these days :P

6/26/12 3:57:52 AM#237
Originally posted by korat102
Originally posted by SlickShoes
Originally posted by Saxonblade

I find it funny how GW2 does this with the box price but that is ok because GW2 is such the golden boy on these forums. If you posted that on the GW2 forums you would instantly be attacked and shot down as someone that is a hater, go figure.........

Yeah GW2 does this on the GW2 website, but you can go to ANY OTHER RETAILER online and order the GW2 box for a much more reasonable price. £34.99 on amazon and play.com. Gamestop.co.uk even have the collectors edition for £109.

Also, GW2 is a one-off payment. Once you've bought the thing therre is no further requirement to pay anything. You can log in as and when you like without the nagging feeling that you haven't got your money's worth that month. Games have to really stand out from the crowd to get away with a subscription based model these days.

Lets hope so, because right now the Cash shop is up in the air, no one really knows what Arena net is going to throw in there. Even if you buy the game , there's still the cash shop and my guess is it might be alittle pricey, and if there's a need to go into the shop to buy something for some aspec of the game then that " One off payment thing " is'nt true at all.

Only time will tell

  Aeolron

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6/26/12 4:35:14 AM#238
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6/26/12 5:10:00 AM#239
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by jdnyc

That is a lot - it's over $20 US converted.

Meh! Skip a candy bar or a soda. It's about  .66 cents US per day.   

Bad idea. If you start to allow this kind of things, and it works, other companies will think they can do the same. Tolerance for this kind of things has to stop before it's too late and suddenly, we all pay over $20 for a month in all our games.

  korat102

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6/26/12 5:19:21 AM#240

From my point of view, it's all academic. I'm very close to being burned out on MMO's. Been playing them far too long. At the moment I'm not playing any MMO at all. Have two lifetime accounts, one of the games I haven't logged in to for many months, the other I stopped playing a couple of weeks ago through boredom. The other MMO's that I have accounts on I haven't even looked at for ages. I'm holding out for GW2 but I fully expect that to be my last MMO...unless of course someone comes up with something truly ground-breaking that interests me. 

I'm finding myself going back to single player games like Torchlight far more these days. I even thought about reinstalling D2 but can't quite face it at the moment... guess real life is taking a firmer hold...yikes!

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