Originally posted by Entinerint

Originally posted by Fearum

I'm looking forward to it, I have faith in them to bring us a fun game with the team they have assembled. Server vs Server isnt doing it for me in GW2 like the Faction Wars of old DAoC, its just not the same. I like what they have out so far and keep checking out their website to see some new video's or any other new info.

I miss having 3 factions wars. Choosing between good and evil or dark and light or whatever other games label the usual 2 sides is lame.

 

 

DAoC came out before MMORPG games were in the main stream. It was nerdy to play them back then, so they didnt have 10 million subs with everyone from Grandmom to 6 year old Billy Bob playing it like we have today. No games were popular back then, not until after vanilla WoW was the genre popular.

 

 

Both Everquest and SWG sported over a million players each.  DAOC was never very popular for its time.  Sorry.

SWG was a huge ip and we can compare all day long, if you compare everquest to WoW then you could say the same thing about it. Fact of the matter is, DaoC was a huge success to those who knew about it. Now that WoW has come and gone there are so many more MMO players out there that would play a good pvp game with a good IP. This could be the one, it's just has to be as engaging as DaoC was for people back in it's hay day.

Originally posted by KingGator

The haters of this game are almost as hysterical as the fanboys of a certain other game. 

 

ps making an elder scroll mmo that doesn't play like the single player game isn't destroying it.  They're just incorporating the lore they've never said they're trying to make skyrim online. I hope the game is wildly successful just to see how ticked some of you dudes get.

This, whiners need to get a clue, i wonder if they talked about hiw each elder scrolls game that came out was destroying the franchise because it wasnt exactly the same as before, or how skyrim and oblivion destroyed the franchise because it didnt havce the hideously boring comabt of morrwind.

Originally posted by Entinerint

Originally posted by Fearum

I'm looking forward to it, I have faith in them to bring us a fun game with the team they have assembled. Server vs Server isnt doing it for me in GW2 like the Faction Wars of old DAoC, its just not the same. I like what they have out so far and keep checking out their website to see some new video's or any other new info.

I miss having 3 factions wars. Choosing between good and evil or dark and light or whatever other games label the usual 2 sides is lame.

 

 

DAoC came out before MMORPG games were in the main stream. It was nerdy to play them back then, so they didnt have 10 million subs with everyone from Grandmom to 6 year old Billy Bob playing it like we have today. No games were popular back then, not until after vanilla WoW was the genre popular.

 

 

Both Everquest and SWG sported over a million players each.  DAOC was never very popular for its time.  Sorry.

Originally posted by Entinerint

Originally posted by Fearum

I'm looking forward to it, I have faith in them to bring us a fun game with the team they have assembled. Server vs Server isnt doing it for me in GW2 like the Faction Wars of old DAoC, its just not the same. I like what they have out so far and keep checking out their website to see some new video's or any other new info.

I miss having 3 factions wars. Choosing between good and evil or dark and light or whatever other games label the usual 2 sides is lame.

 

 

DAoC came out before MMORPG games were in the main stream. It was nerdy to play them back then, so they didnt have 10 million subs with everyone from Grandmom to 6 year old Billy Bob playing it like we have today. No games were popular back then, not until after vanilla WoW was the genre popular.

 

 

Both Everquest and SWG sported over a million players each.  DAOC was never very popular for its time.  Sorry.

Any developer can smack the SW name on any POS and it will sell millions of copies. They never held the subscriber numbers DAoC held because the game was horrible, thats why its not around anymore. Everquest came out 2 years before and most of the players were loyal to it and didn't leave for DAoC. I did because I wanted to play 3 faction PvP and didnt quite love EQ that much after 2 years of playing it.  

Then UO was never really popular as well.

Here is a subscription chart: http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-2.png

DAoC: 250,000

UO: 250,000

EQ: 500,000

EQ2: 340,000

CoH: 200,000

SWG: 300,000

Rift: peaked at 600,000 after release and dropped to 250,000 after a year

And a quote from wikipedia: "While neither Turbine nor Microsoft have been forthcoming in releasing exact subscription counts, it is believed that Asheron's Call peaked in popularity in early 2002 at about 120,000 accounts and has since dropped to below 10,000."

DAoC surely didn't have the largest community but it did fairly good in my opinion. At least it had as many subscribers as UO, probably more than AC, more than CoH and as many as Rift has atm.

Originally posted by Fearum

Originally posted by Entinerint

Originally posted by Fearum

I'm looking forward to it, I have faith in them to bring us a fun game with the team they have assembled. Server vs Server isnt doing it for me in GW2 like the Faction Wars of old DAoC, its just not the same. I like what they have out so far and keep checking out their website to see some new video's or any other new info.

I miss having 3 factions wars. Choosing between good and evil or dark and light or whatever other games label the usual 2 sides is lame.

 

 

DAoC came out before MMORPG games were in the main stream. It was nerdy to play them back then, so they didnt have 10 million subs with everyone from Grandmom to 6 year old Billy Bob playing it like we have today. No games were popular back then, not until after vanilla WoW was the genre popular.

 

 

Both Everquest and SWG sported over a million players each.  DAOC was never very popular for its time.  Sorry.

Any developer can smack the SW name on any POS and it will sell millions of copies. They never held the subscriber numbers DAoC held because the game was horrible, thats why its not around anymore. Everquest came out 2 years before and most of the players were loyal to it and didn't leave for DAoC. I did because I wanted to play 3 faction PvP and didnt quite love EQ that much after 2 years of playing it.  

SWG held more subs for a longer period of time than DAOC did

Originally posted by Darrgen

Originally posted by PyrateLV

DAOC wasnt that popular of a game. Never got over 250k subs. I dont see the point of trying to do a version2.

I definately dont see the point of butchering Elder Scrolls to do it

 The game was huge for the MMO pvp community back in it's time. It was pre-WoW MMO boom and still to this day its has been the best pvp experience to this day for me and a lot of other players. And this is coming from me being a multiple WoW gladiator/Warlord, and high rank in just about every pvp game I've played since. As far as pvp is concerned it was the best. DaoC made pvp engaging for people that dont even like pvp because it made you want to get involved for your realm. This is why 3 factions with completely different zones is a good thing for this game. No real bad guy but you want to be victorious for your faction. 

 

DaoC is simply outdated and that's why so many daoc fans were screaming for a version 2, the only problem is a version 2 would be butchered by the people that own it now(EA/bioware). The only person that could do a DaoC2 right is Matt firor. The problem is ea owns the rights to daoc and the company he works for has a huge IP in Elder Scrolls. I know it upset some people but I have complete faith that the game will be enjoyable.

Was going to reply, but.. This ^

That'd be the only way of getting me to play it as from what I've read so far it doesn't seem to sport anything substantially different. Going to be interesting to see how they handle the lore as MMO lore tends to be poor.

Originally posted by Kiyonori

That'd be the only way of getting me to play it as from what I've read so far it doesn't seem to sport anything substantially different. Going to be interesting to see how they handle the lore as MMO lore tends to be poor.

So far they are pretty much butchering it.

Originally posted by Acidon

Originally posted by Darrgen

Originally posted by PyrateLV

DAOC wasnt that popular of a game. Never got over 250k subs. I dont see the point of trying to do a version2.

I definately dont see the point of butchering Elder Scrolls to do it

 The game was huge for the MMO pvp community back in it's time. It was pre-WoW MMO boom and still to this day its has been the best pvp experience to this day for me and a lot of other players. And this is coming from me being a multiple WoW gladiator/Warlord, and high rank in just about every pvp game I've played since. As far as pvp is concerned it was the best. DaoC made pvp engaging for people that dont even like pvp because it made you want to get involved for your realm. This is why 3 factions with completely different zones is a good thing for this game. No real bad guy but you want to be victorious for your faction. 

 

DaoC is simply outdated and that's why so many daoc fans were screaming for a version 2, the only problem is a version 2 would be butchered by the people that own it now(EA/bioware). The only person that could do a DaoC2 right is Matt firor. The problem is ea owns the rights to daoc and the company he works for has a huge IP in Elder Scrolls. I know it upset some people but I have complete faith that the game will be enjoyable.

 

Was going to reply, but.. This ^

I think the phrase goes "There's a sucker born every minute."

Originally posted by Entinerint

Originally posted by Acidon

Originally posted by Darrgen

Originally posted by PyrateLV

DAOC wasnt that popular of a game. Never got over 250k subs. I dont see the point of trying to do a version2.

I definately dont see the point of butchering Elder Scrolls to do it

 The game was huge for the MMO pvp community back in it's time. It was pre-WoW MMO boom and still to this day its has been the best pvp experience to this day for me and a lot of other players. And this is coming from me being a multiple WoW gladiator/Warlord, and high rank in just about every pvp game I've played since. As far as pvp is concerned it was the best. DaoC made pvp engaging for people that dont even like pvp because it made you want to get involved for your realm. This is why 3 factions with completely different zones is a good thing for this game. No real bad guy but you want to be victorious for your faction. 

 

DaoC is simply outdated and that's why so many daoc fans were screaming for a version 2, the only problem is a version 2 would be butchered by the people that own it now(EA/bioware). The only person that could do a DaoC2 right is Matt firor. The problem is ea owns the rights to daoc and the company he works for has a huge IP in Elder Scrolls. I know it upset some people but I have complete faith that the game will be enjoyable.

 

Was going to reply, but.. This ^

I think the phrase goes "There's a sucker born every minute."

You devote way too much time too TESO, I think you are a fanboi. All of your past posts are about it, you live and breath it. Stop trying to fool everyone, your buying the life time sub and the collector editions.

Originally posted by Fearum

Originally posted by Entinerint

Originally posted by Acidon

Originally posted by Darrgen

Originally posted by PyrateLV

DAOC wasnt that popular of a game. Never got over 250k subs. I dont see the point of trying to do a version2.

I definately dont see the point of butchering Elder Scrolls to do it

 The game was huge for the MMO pvp community back in it's time. It was pre-WoW MMO boom and still to this day its has been the best pvp experience to this day for me and a lot of other players. And this is coming from me being a multiple WoW gladiator/Warlord, and high rank in just about every pvp game I've played since. As far as pvp is concerned it was the best. DaoC made pvp engaging for people that dont even like pvp because it made you want to get involved for your realm. This is why 3 factions with completely different zones is a good thing for this game. No real bad guy but you want to be victorious for your faction. 

 

DaoC is simply outdated and that's why so many daoc fans were screaming for a version 2, the only problem is a version 2 would be butchered by the people that own it now(EA/bioware). The only person that could do a DaoC2 right is Matt firor. The problem is ea owns the rights to daoc and the company he works for has a huge IP in Elder Scrolls. I know it upset some people but I have complete faith that the game will be enjoyable.

 

Was going to reply, but.. This ^

I think the phrase goes "There's a sucker born every minute."

You devote way too much time too TESO, I think you are a fanboi. All of your past posts are about it, you live and breath it. Stop trying to fool everyone, your buying the life time sub and the collector editions.

I make no bones about the fact that I am a fan of TES.  I am a fan of TES before anything else.  In fact it's really the only thing I am a "fanboy" of.

But if one weren't a fan of TES, then why would then even pay attention to the game?  Especially when it looks so mediocre?

And no, I won't be giving them any money unless they significantly change their approach, which is sadly unlikely.

Originally posted by Entinerint

Originally posted by MMOExposed

Originally posted by Entinerint

Originally posted by newbinator

Not saying it is. But I'm actually hoping ESO is as close to DAOC RvR as we've ever seen from an MMO. Am I the only one who feels this way? 

I feel the opposite.  If they want to make DAOC 2 make DAOC 2.  If they want to make Elder Scrolls Online, make it like Elder Scrolls.  It's that simple.

Just because they can't get funding for DAOC 2 doesn't mean they have to shatter one of the greatest fantasy franchises' potential for an MMO by selfishly cannibalizing it.

@Red, care to explain what you mean?

Sure.

1. First and Third person real-time combat (plays exactly like Skyrim with a bit more polish).

2. Races are not locked into factions.

3. You can kill anyone at anytime and loot everything on their body.

4. A crime and punishment system that prevents #3 from becoming an easy life.

5. Factions can be joined by anyone of any race.

6. Player factions are creatable and can war with each other and/or join under the banner of an in-game faction.

7. Imperials are a playable race.

8. Faction war can still exist with the major factions but anyone can be neutral if they want.

9. Voiced characters (apparently we have that).

10. No classes.  Just skills.  (Or at the very least an option to create a custom class)

11. Housing for all players (instanced or not).

12. Quest-givers that don't indicate they are quest-givers, ie: you have to talk to people in order find out if they need help with anything.

13. Skill-based progression (not what is currently in ESO)

I'd play that.

Originally posted by newbinator

Not saying it is. But I'm actually hoping ESO is as close to DAOC RvR as we've ever seen from an MMO. Am I the only one who feels this way? 

Wouldn't this be DAOC 3 in ESO?  DAOC 2 Was packaged in Warhammer: Age of Reckoning

Originally posted by newbinator

Not saying it is. But I'm actually hoping ESO is as close to DAOC RvR as we've ever seen from an MMO. Am I the only one who feels this way? 

I don't mind that, as long they don't make another WOW clone, but from the first information it looks they are going for the SWTOR route

At least that's what transpires from Matt Fior mouth every time he talks.

Originally posted by ste2000

Originally posted by newbinator

Not saying it is. But I'm actually hoping ESO is as close to DAOC RvR as we've ever seen from an MMO. Am I the only one who feels this way? 

I don't mind that, as long they don't make another WOW clone, but from the first information it looks they are going for the SWTOR route

At least that's what transpires from Matt Fior mouth every time he talks.

3 factions at war doesn't bother me at all.

Me being forced into any of those factions because of the race I pick, not being able to be neutral?  That's not TES and that's not what I want in a TES MMO.

Originally posted by Entinerint

Originally posted by ste2000

Originally posted by newbinator

Not saying it is. But I'm actually hoping ESO is as close to DAOC RvR as we've ever seen from an MMO. Am I the only one who feels this way? 

I don't mind that, as long they don't make another WOW clone, but from the first information it looks they are going for the SWTOR route

At least that's what transpires from Matt Fior mouth every time he talks.

3 factions at war doesn't bother me at all.

Me being forced into any of those factions because of the race I pick, not being able to be neutral?  That's not TES and that's not what I want in a TES MMO.

How would you tell if the other person in the 3 faction PvP is on another faction then? If we were all for example dark elves, then which dark elf would I attack?

Originally posted by Fearum

Originally posted by Entinerint

Originally posted by ste2000

Originally posted by newbinator

Not saying it is. But I'm actually hoping ESO is as close to DAOC RvR as we've ever seen from an MMO. Am I the only one who feels this way? 

I don't mind that, as long they don't make another WOW clone, but from the first information it looks they are going for the SWTOR route

At least that's what transpires from Matt Fior mouth every time he talks.

3 factions at war doesn't bother me at all.

Me being forced into any of those factions because of the race I pick, not being able to be neutral?  That's not TES and that's not what I want in a TES MMO.

How would you tell if the other person in the 3 faction PvP is on another faction then? If we were all for example dark elves, then which dark elf would I attack?

Uhh..maybe the one with a RED NAME over their head?

Just click TAB a few times. Im sure you will find them

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Originally posted by Fearum

Originally posted by Entinerint

Originally posted by ste2000

Originally posted by newbinator

Not saying it is. But I'm actually hoping ESO is as close to DAOC RvR as we've ever seen from an MMO. Am I the only one who feels this way? 

I don't mind that, as long they don't make another WOW clone, but from the first information it looks they are going for the SWTOR route

At least that's what transpires from Matt Fior mouth every time he talks.

3 factions at war doesn't bother me at all.

Me being forced into any of those factions because of the race I pick, not being able to be neutral?  That's not TES and that's not what I want in a TES MMO.

How would you tell if the other person in the 3 faction PvP is on another faction then? If we were all for example dark elves, then which dark elf would I attack?

Uhh..maybe the one with a RED NAME over their head?

Just click TAB a few times. Im sure you will find them

 

 

 

I think it would be better to have each a different race. Gets you more involved then "lets go kill the red team"

edit: Also if both of the other factions were red then how would you form an alliance to take out one side if they are all red?