Originally posted by Byne25

Originally posted by Xasapis

Originally posted by dadante666

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wonder why the suprise  it coming sooner or later all kor game in NA alwais is a fail and  dont last long it alwais going to happen alwais.

That's quite the selective memory. It's like every mmorpg produced in the west is a stellar success and the korean ones aren't? The latest game to nose dive in subscriptions was SW:TOR, and that had a huge backing, both financial and from a major developer. If you take a look a bit at the past, you'll see similar disheartening results from other western mmorpgs as well.

On the other hand, lets name one western mmorpg that does well in Korea, or asia in general.

 I could have sworn World of Warcraft was huge in Asia. Is it not? believe it or not WoW is a western MMORPG. I am not a big fan of it but you cannot argue with the crazy subscriptions and money that game has made.

By huge you mean half of WoW's sub was chinese gold farmer than yes i guess you could call it a sucess.

Originally posted by otacu

Rift has 16 servers in NA and 16 in EU i guess it's quite good

http://www.riftstatus.com/

It's interesting cause the game came out around the same time as Tera last year.

Tera failed because it launched incompleted not once (in Korea) but TWICE (in the West too).

 TERA servers obviously hold a lot more people than Rifts and I wouldn't say TERA has failed in NA, it seems to have failed in EU due to frogsters utter incomptence but NA is doing well, today I witnessed the largest GvG i've seen since BETA on Basilisk Crag(about 30v40 right after the Nexus, Divine vs Reckless and Revolt) and today VoT finally did it, they set up multiple 100-200 person zergs and had enough people to actually complete the entire Nexus across all three zones, they are the first server to do so.

Sure NA has some dead servers but Dragonfalls PvE playerbase is going strong, Celestial Hills has a strong RP foundation and three of the four PvP servers are highly active.

Originally posted by Pivotelite

 TERA servers obviously hold a lot more people than Rifts

 

.... why?

Until you prove otherwise we have to assume they have almost the same capacity. Otherwise when Tera had 37 servers up how many players do you think were playing it? milions?

The 28th June K-Tera will merge the servers from 13 to 4 because they have few players left not because they had a technological breakthrough and are now able to have servers 3 times bigger.

Jp-Tera has three servers but only one is barely alive. They will soon server merge too into 1 single server.

Eu Tera imho will follow soon after that. By the end of the year i bet there will be at most 6 servers (2eng.2fre.2ger) but probably even fewer. Maybe they will just make 4 servers (2eng and 2 ger)

Na Tera will last just a bit longer

Originally posted by otacu

Originally posted by Pivotelite

 TERA servers obviously hold a lot more people than Rifts

 

.... why?

Until you prove otherwise we have to assume they have almost the same capacity. Otherwise when Tera had 37 servers up how many players do you think were playing it? milions?

 Yes, millions were playing TERA, have you not seen the statistics enough times? Just as many people were playing TERA as TOR and TOR has like 70+ servers(okay nevermind, TOR has more than 200 servers...jesus how little can those servers hold?).

Rifts game world is absolutely tiny in comparison to TERAs and it also doesn't have channels.

Apparently on TERA OBT in Korea they reached a peak concurrent user number of 165,000, that's an average of 4459 users per server.

@Pivotelite

By your own logic Tera NA and EU are in the same path as KR and JP.

http://notboring.net/tera_eu_server_status.php
http://teradeck.pirateninjas.net/

None of them get past mid-low usage at any time and some are permalow no matter what. If EME and Frogster still have any brains in their heads they will merge servers by the end of the summer before QoA part 2 update.

INNOVATE OR DIE!

Let this be a lesson to all MMORPG devs and publishers who release the Same Old u know what in a different wrapper.

And a lesson to all the cheesy anime, oversized weapon, Asian MMORPG that try to release to the west....we dont want your same old same old cheesy games.

the game is dying no matter how much the fanboys deny it

in KR blade and soul beta + diablo 3 was pretty much the coup de grace

Originally posted by HeroEvermore

This has nothing to do with US Tera. Your speculations are incorrect.

Actually it does, US tera content comes from translated Kr Tera content, KR tera goes bellyup, the Us one will be soon to follow due to lack of updates.

Originally posted by otacu

Rift has 16 servers in NA and 16 in EU i guess it's quite good

http://www.riftstatus.com/

 

 

Rift allows people to transfer servers for free once a week.  8 of the NA servers are ghost towns because the population bled enough that guilds started mass transferring to be able to replace the ones that left, and the chain reaction of transfers leave dead servers.  EU servers are in worse shape, due to the language barriers.  Most of the EU servers are dead.

Rift's sub numbers are probably somewhere around 200k - 250k, which isnt bad but they have been going the wrong way since the game launched (with one two month period in early 2012 of slight growth due to swtor failure) and if Storm Legion doesnt beat MoP and GW2 to release it might be too late for Rift to ever be a major force (but it will never be in danger of shutting down either)

Originally posted by Yamota

Just comes to show that a game cannot thrive on innovative combat alone.

The combat in Tera is far from inovative...since 3 or more mmorpg's before Tera already done the same combat system. I got bored from Tera in the first  hour and never touched it again....it lacks alot of stuff and is a generic mmo hidden behind their "inovative combat system"

Originally posted by A_hi

the game is dying no matter how much the fanboys deny it

in KR blade and soul beta + diablo 3 was pretty much the coup de grace

 Who the fuck denied it was dying in Korea?

I get sick of the same haters coming in and acting ilke us "fanboys" are dumb, deaf and blind. Go into your favorite games board thanks, sorry we enjoy a game you don't.

Seeing the same pessimists and haters in here for months really starts to piss someone off, that's why I barely come here anymore.

But I guess you guys find it fun.

Originally posted by UnleadedRev

INNOVATE OR DIE!

Let this be a lesson to all MMORPG devs and publishers who release the Same Old u know what in a different wrapper.

And a lesson to all the cheesy anime, oversized weapon, Asian MMORPG that try to release to the west....we dont want your same old same old cheesy games.

 I think like 90% of the people responding like this, including yourself, don't even read the title or the information posted in the OP.

This is KTERA we are talking about, this post also goes out to the other 10 responses like yours.

Originally posted by Pivotelite

Originally posted by UnleadedRev

INNOVATE OR DIE!

Let this be a lesson to all MMORPG devs and publishers who release the Same Old u know what in a different wrapper.

And a lesson to all the cheesy anime, oversized weapon, Asian MMORPG that try to release to the west....we dont want your same old same old cheesy games.

 I think like 90% of the people responding like this, including yourself, don't even read the title or the information posted in the OP.

 

This is KTERA we are talking about, this post also goes out to the other 10 responses like yours.

If KTERA flops it is inevitable that it will drag US tera with it....also a game like Tera has no chance standing up to all the new games comin up in the next few months....its only a generic mmo hidden behind a "inovative combat system" as they call it ...which is not inovative in any way since it has been done in 3-4 games before Tera.

  Heh , goes to show you that people are actually waking up and are stopping the jump process.  Every time a new MMO releases everyone quits the MMO they were playing that is virtually the same crap as the new one , just to play the new MMO.

 Also goes to show you how saturated the MMO world is when it comes to Fantasy RPG. 

I'm glad both games are in decline , might actually force devs on creating fun games for the players instead of creating games that just fill their pockets due to item shops.

Lol, like I didn t see this coming.

Hai

http://www.gametrics.com/news/News02_View.aspx?seqid=8036

April = 134,717
May = 92,580
June 1st week = 67,931
June 2nd week = 63,099
June 3rd week = 49,664 (-21.29%)

Originally posted by hopenottaken

Hai

http://www.gametrics.com/news/News02_View.aspx?seqid=8036

April = 134,717
May = 92,580
June 1st week = 67,931
June 2nd week = 63,099
June 3rd week = 49,664 (-21.29%)

And Blade and Soul will officially launch at the end of the month.

R.I.P.

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Originally posted by otacu

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Originally posted by hopenottaken Hai http://www.gametrics.com/news/News02_View.aspx?seqid=8036 April = 134,717 May = 92,580 June 1st week = 67,931 June 2nd week = 63,099 June 3rd week = 49,664 (-21.29%)

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And Blade and Soul will officially launch at the end of the month.

R.I.P.

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Anyone else surprised by the fact that B&S's release date was announced just five days before launch?

Originally posted by Alot

Anyone else surprised by the fact that B&S's release date was announced just five days before launch?

Ride the hype tide.