its perfectly feasable to scrpit a bunny hop if it works anything like bunny hoping in HL1 engined games.

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

Originally posted by Jakdstripper

yea but at least you can make the argument that bunny hopping takes skill. i do agree that magic in this game was made a bit too powerful.... 

You never heard about the bunny hop script?

I do agree that it takes skills, but it has been proven that the script exist and most pro hoppers are using it. This is the reason i hate it.

using scripts in Darkfall is a joke. The reaction time isnt good enough. Sure you can bunny hop with a script if nothing else is going on. But what about all the trillion different variations of real combat? no, bunny hopping in real time battle takes skill and a script is only going to f8ck you up at some point in a battle as you try to do something else.

scripting in that game is one of the large reasons I stopped playing.   People get banned and are back in a week on a new account they bought with another maxed our character.

They even post their new names on the forum and on their same you tube account.  It wouldn't be hard for AV to figure it out.

The juggle ray script, bunny hopping to move faster then mounts, water hopping macro (move cursor here, wof, begone, double jump, et.) to move faster then boats, arrow script, silent arrows, to heal your partners,auto loot,  all with assisted aiming moving the mouse or when certain colors occur in certain places hit this or that, etc.

Then there was the robes with the modified armor ratings.  Good idea for AV to have that information client side.

The lag switchers, dissappear when low health reappear full heal, or just lag 20 arrows into someone at a bank.

On and on and on.

Even the rare times when AV does a ban wave it doesn't matter they are just right back on a new character JuiceMan fashion.

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The above doesn't even get into the many bugs that go unfixed and the fact they don't update the game basically at all.

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-hOGgrl5V4

 Holy maccaroni, I did take a look at this video and I cant understand how anybody would like to play this.

Originally posted by Vidir

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-hOGgrl5V4

 Holy maccaroni, I did take a look at this video and I cant understand how anybody would like to play this.

 

if you like aim based combat in DF is actually pretty friken fun, or at least the magic and archery part is. the melee is pretty simple and, frankly, uninspired.

the magic sytem is incredibly vast and, short of invisibility spells, there isn't much this game doesn't have magic wise. however, because of the huge range, speed and power of magic it ends up looking and feeling a lot like a funky medieval Halo game.

while it is cool that you can do all those things in DF, magic is quite OP and that pretty much makes it a requirement for pvp.

of course magic isn't DF biggest problem by far. endless stat progression, weak melee mechanics, full loot, and the fact that everyone can max out absolutelye very single skill in the game are the bigger problems. it is still a fun game to play when you are not getting owned by greefing vets taht is.

I actually really like the melee mechanics.  It could use some more skill to balance out magic but there is more to melee in DF then most people realize.  Most people are no good at it.

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

Truth is, i lied. I never tried out for arsnl. A friend of mine said he left cuz of the reason i give. He is the one who teached me how to play when i was a wolf, before i rerolled.

And that bunny hop script do exist and try hard as a video where he hopped 3 times for nothing when he failed to take the begone because it was too far from him. Not only he looked dumb in that video, but it was obvious that he was cheating. Why the hell would you hop 3 times in the same spot for nothing after a failed begone?

On topic, i don't care how good you are and the tactic involve to counter x and y. Bunny hops is something that promotes cheating and its bad for the game. There's tolerable scripts like ray cycle, shield and sword because we all know how bad the gui is in DF and they're common scripts. Bunny hop scripts are not tolerable and the threads about that scripts are instantly removed.(I'm not talking about angle script for begone, storm blast, shrapnel. you'd have to be the biggest(fatty) noob to not be good at that).

On me, you probably made a mistake. If i did use rays on cairn giants while on a tree, that wouldnt be cheating since they can all use range attacks. You probably got mistaken by the golem near dayar. I msged a GM and he said it was ok. If i'm not afk and if i don't farm that way, Its not cheating. Same for bugged spawns. I'm not hypocrite, i'm informed.

 

Finally, there's a reason i still post here and in the forum. I only have faith in 2.0. All these problem shown in luck's video will be adressed. Bunny hopping below 89 hp will kill you. Bettter yet, falling damage cap... it won't have a cap lol. You will be in a knocked-out state and you will have to wait for the whole timer to revive. Same as if you jump off from calfardar. You will instantly get knocked-out and you will have to wait for the whole timer.

Originally posted by enticle

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

Truth is, i lied. I never tried out for arsnl. A friend of mine said he left cuz of the reason i give. He is the one who teached me how to play when i was a wolf, before i rerolled.

And that bunny hop script do exist and try hard as a video where he hopped 3 times for nothing when he failed to take the begone because it was too far from him. Not only he looked dumb in that video, but it was obvious that he was cheating. Why the hell would you hop 3 times in the same spot for nothing after a failed begone?

On topic, i don't care how good you are and the tactic involve to counter x and y. Bunny hops is something that promotes cheating and its bad for the game. There's tolerable scripts like ray cycle, shield and sword because we all know how bad the gui is in DF and they're common scripts. Bunny hop scripts are not tolerable and the threads about that scripts are instantly removed.(I'm not talking about angle script for begone, storm blast, shrapnel. you'd have to be the biggest(fatty) noob to not be good at that).

On me, you probably made a mistake. If i did use rays on cairn giants while on a tree, that wouldnt be cheating since they can all use range attacks. You probably got mistaken by the golem near dayar. I msged a GM and he said it was ok. If i'm not afk and if i don't farm that way, Its not cheating. Same for bugged spawns. I'm not hypocrite, i'm informed.

 

Finally, there's a reason i still post here and in the forum. I only have faith in 2.0. All these problem shown in luck's video will be adressed. Bunny hopping below 89 hp will kill you. Bettter yet, falling damage cap... it won't have a cap lol. You will be in a knocked-out state and you will have to wait for the whole timer to revive. Same as if you jump off from calfardar. You will instantly get knocked-out and you will have to wait for the whole timer.

 

Forgot about this forum and post.

 

Do you have that video, or remember which one it is? I've watched pretty much every pvp video he's released since I find them entertaining and I haven't seen anything that suggests he cheats. He is a good player.

 

As far as which scripts you assume should be allowed or not, is all a matter of opinion. I still haven't seen any proof that this bunny hop script exists, and if it does I don't see how it is anymore game breaking than writing or using scripts that have multiple functions with 1 button.

 

I'm sure we all hope darkfall 2.0 will be a great game, we will have to wait and see. I haven't been following along in the blogs for a long time, since it's Aventurine. I do hope, like you said the way hopping and movement spells work will change. Personally I'd like to see just 1 hop or the initial movement after casting you get out of them. Or knocked out like you mentioned if you go down to no health.

 

 

 

Stux, it seems like you have scripts and hacking mixed up. Those players who were banned, were rightfully banned for cheating. Luckily those who choose to hack are a minority in this game and don't pose a threat to the majority of the population. They wern't banned for using scripts that most everyone in this game uses.

 

Sure there has been some game breaking bugs, and there still is. Those major ones (excluding the stam bug,) were fixed relatively fast. Doesn't matter if you play a hugely funded game like runescape or basically anything. There will be bugs and glitches and there will always be those players who take advantage of them. Basically it comes down to how the company handles the situation and what it does to the players who choose to take advantage of the glitch.

 

Just like when darkfall 2.0 comes out, there will be glitches and bugs and people are going to take advantage of them. Just have to hope the developers get word fast so the problem can be fixed. Welcome to online gaming.

guys..

most scripts are actually really not very helpful during real combat. Bunnyhopping for example is really hard to time just right and in real combat you need the flexiablity to change quickly. You can start up for a bunny hop but then need to move your head just slightly different then instead of a bubbyhop script about to fire you have  a clusterF8ck script about to start and then you find yourself bolted backwards INTO the enamy rather than away.Some people are really good at timing their script fires good (like at the start of a battle) but the myth that scripting gives you a huge advantage over raw skill is welll...a myth

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

Originally posted by Jakdstripper

yea but at least you can make the argument that bunny hopping takes skill. i do agree that magic in this game was made a bit too powerful.... 

You never heard about the bunny hop script?

I do agree that it takes skills, but it has been proven that the script exist and most pro hoppers are using it. This is the reason i hate it.

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

Originally posted by Jakdstripper

yea but at least you can make the argument that bunny hopping takes skill. i do agree that magic in this game was made a bit too powerful.... 

You never heard about the bunny hop script?

I do agree that it takes skills, but it has been proven that the script exist and most pro hoppers are using it. This is the reason i hate it.

 

1000x no. the scripts dont work due to lag ffs

Yeah he has a few things wrong with his post.

1. yes we have heard of bunny hop scripts

2. yes we have seen staged you tube video of them done under a controled enviroment.

3. the scripts dont take the skill. Bunny hopping takes the skill.

4. In real time with all the milisecond variable descisions you have to make firing off a script for anything other than the begining of combat or a straight away run away is all you can use them for which to be frank in those cases doing it manually is just as easy and requires very little skill. The skill of combat is DURING combat.

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by Realbigdeal 

1000x no. the scripts dont work due to lag ffs

Been awhile since you played.

There are lots of scripts used in combat now. You are at a disadavantage if you don't use them. Most guilds provide them to new members. There is also posts about them on the main forums.

Originally posted by Atlan99

Been awhile since you played.

There are lots of scripts used in combat now. You are at a disadavantage if you don't use them. Most guilds provide them to new members. There is also posts about them on the main forums.

Where can you find this bunny hop script? The damn thing doesn't exist and wouldn't be feasible in an actually fight. 

I'm not exactly sure what scripts you are referring to, since the scripts posted on the forums have been used for a long time and nothing has changed in the past couple years other than refining them.

F...Darkfall, this game will never be anything except a poor imitation of Quake with grind and a community full of exploiters. I rather play BF3 with all its bugs and mediocre vanilla maps and wait for PlanetSide 2.

a bunny hop script is one of the easiest scripts to setup. Like i said if bunnyhoping consists of jumping over and over again whilst sprinting and moving your mouse angle then it can be done easily.

Originally posted by Atlan99

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by Realbigdeal 

1000x no. the scripts dont work due to lag ffs

Been awhile since you played.

There are lots of scripts used in combat now. You are at a disadavantage if you don't use them. Most guilds provide them to new members. There is also posts about them on the main forums.

Originally posted by deathshroud

a bunny hop script is one of the easiest scripts to setup. Like i said if bunnyhoping consists of jumping over and over again whilst sprinting and moving your mouse angle then it can be done easily.

Go into detail please? There is way to many variables for a bunny hop script to be practical. If you ever played darkfall you would know you can't simply set the jump key to press at a consistent interval. Since you have to factor in speed, terrain, or if you get hit by a spell or arrow mid jump. From jump to jump it will never be the same timing, and usually the further you jump you will eventually start to lose speed. So it's not as simple as setting up a script to push your jump key every second.

Like xpiher mentioned, it just wouldn't possible without hacks. Your hack would have to know where the ground is so it knows when to jump. This wouldn't be possible with a simple AHK script.

I'm still waiting to see this bunny hop script, there is so many mads and so many people that think this is a wide spread issue. I've encountered 2 players the OP was complaining about who he said used this script. From what I saw, they didn't or I wouldn't have been able to escape with all my loot.

I honestly have to ask, is it really that difficult for you people to push your damn jump key?

Originally posted by enticle

Originally posted by deathshroud

a bunny hop script is one of the easiest scripts to setup. Like i said if bunnyhoping consists of jumping over and over again whilst sprinting and moving your mouse angle then it can be done easily.

 

I'm still waiting to see this bunny hop script, there is so many mads and so many people that think this is a wide spread issue. I've encountered 2 players the OP was complaining about who he said used this script. From what I saw, they didn't or I wouldn't have been able to escape with all my loot.

 

Escaping from a bunny hop script user  is not a proof of the contrary cuz no one wants to get killed by a splash at 1 hit. If you bunny hoped on a flat land all the way, its suppose to be easy.

Look at one of the most known player getting killed by a naked if you wonna get a laugh.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew3x4Kg7caM

Bunny hop scripts are not common, so i can't find it here. The few players who posted it got their posts removed and an infraction. Threads titled bunny hop scripts or if the subject had to change to that, would instantly get removed, not just closed.

The only thing i can do is to look up for some videos where the player is obviously using the script. I will do it just for fun, but not today.

As for hack or whatever, it has been proven that they can't detect all of them. We have to rely on fraps to take out these players from the game. A report won't be enough since the DF GM's are the weakest. 

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

Escaping from a bunny hop script user  is not a proof of the contrary cuz no one wants to get killed by a splash at 1 hit. If you bunny hoped on a flat land all the way, its suppose to be easy.

Look at one of the most known player getting killed by a naked if you wonna get a laugh.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew3x4Kg7caM

Bunny hop scripts are not common, so i can't find it here. The few players who posted it got their posts removed and an infraction. Threads titled bunny hop scripts or if the subject had to change to that, would instantly get removed, not just closed.

The only thing i can do is to look up for some videos where the player is obviously using the script. I will do it just for fun, but not today.

As for hack or whatever, it has been proven that they can't detect all of them. We have to rely on fraps to take out these players from the game. A report won't be enough since the DF GM's are the weakest. 

Well I know for sure the one time I was running from arrow, I was 1 hit pretty much the whole time I was jumping from him. When I turned around to cast a heal and reflect he fucked up his jump and was still 3/4 and a very long ways from me. I still managed to get away from him. There is no bunny hop script. Also zorak fucked up bad in that fight, that's why you don't hop to 1 hit when you're chasing someone.

The only way this bunny hop 'script' being possible is if it were a bunny hop hack. What's your thought process on how this script would function? Because it's not as simple as you and others claim it is to make, if it's even possible since you can't account for all the variables of bunny hopping in a script. 

But I'm getting trolled, so i will just end it right there unless something substantial gets posted. One my gaming buddies is a mod on the darkfall forums, and he told me that he hasn't seen any posts about this script or seen anything about it. If any of those threads did exist like you claim, they either had hackusations or the posts themselves were against the rules. It's like you think this is some big conspiracy and everyone is going out of there way to cover all the evidence. You also have to think of the amount of players that join/leave BS AND DHW. There would be proof, it would get leaked, if it were a hack there would be proof of them cheating and they would be banned (hopefully.) It doesn't exist.

Already caught you lieing earlier on too, so there's really no point continuing on with this thread.

Originally posted by enticle

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

Escaping from a bunny hop script user  is not a proof of the contrary cuz no one wants to get killed by a splash at 1 hit. If you bunny hoped on a flat land all the way, its suppose to be easy.

Look at one of the most known player getting killed by a naked if you wonna get a laugh.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew3x4Kg7caM

Bunny hop scripts are not common, so i can't find it here. The few players who posted it got their posts removed and an infraction. Threads titled bunny hop scripts or if the subject had to change to that, would instantly get removed, not just closed.

The only thing i can do is to look up for some videos where the player is obviously using the script. I will do it just for fun, but not today.

As for hack or whatever, it has been proven that they can't detect all of them. We have to rely on fraps to take out these players from the game. A report won't be enough since the DF GM's are the weakest. 

Well I know for sure the one time I was running from arrow, I was 1 hit pretty much the whole time I was jumping from him. When I turned around to cast a heal and reflect he fucked up his jump and was still 3/4 and a very long ways from me. I still managed to get away from him. There is no bunny hop script. Also zorak fucked up bad in that fight, that's why you don't hop to 1 hit when you're chasing someone.

The only way this bunny hop 'script' being possible is if it were a bunny hop hack. What's your thought process on how this script would function? Because it's not as simple as you and others claim it is to make, if it's even possible since you can't account for all the variables of bunny hopping in a script. 

But I'm getting trolled, so i will just end it right there unless something substantial gets posted. One my gaming buddies is a mod on the darkfall forums, and he told me that he hasn't seen any posts about this script or seen anything about it. If any of those threads did exist like you claim, they either had hackusations or the posts themselves were against the rules. It's like you think this is some big conspiracy and everyone is going out of there way to cover all the evidence. You also have to think of the amount of players that join/leave BS AND DHW. There would be proof, it would get leaked, if it were a hack there would be proof of them cheating and they would be banned (hopefully.) It doesn't exist.

Already caught you lieing earlier on too, so there's really no point continuing on with this thread.

 

Anyways, bunny hop script exist in most oldschool fps game and DF engine is kinda old school even if it has been used for DF only so far. those oldschool game, with a script, you simply have to hold the jump button and everytime you land, you will automatically jump. I don'T see why that would be different for DF.

As for oldshcool game that you must play with a steam account or something similar or a third party anti cheat program, script are automatically blocked, so there's no way to use a bunny hop script in that case. As for DF, there's nothing to prevent that. You start the game and there's no type of third party program to prevent cheating. (Lets hope DF 2.0 will have something like that). So why would you think i'm trolling?

But i'm not done yet. You need a proof and i got all day.

OMG lolololol!!!

Yo, i found the video when luck failed he's hops after a failed begone, but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhvqaBYXViw&lr=1 The video got removed.  Here's the thread where Vree linked the video. http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=277272&page=2 Thats all i can do so far.