I wonder how some people can complain about diablo 3 not being inovative AND not being like Diablo 2, so people want a game wich is like D2 but diferent? Good luck with that.

Originally posted by Banisco

I wonder how some people can complain about diablo 3 not being inovative AND not being like Diablo 2, so people want a game wich is like D2 but diferent? Good luck with that.

I've never seen that complaint actually. The most common complaint is that IT's LIKE D2 too much AND lacking innovation.

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

Originally posted by Banisco

I wonder how some people can complain about diablo 3 not being inovative AND not being like Diablo 2, so people want a game wich is like D2 but diferent? Good luck with that.

I've never seen that complaint actually. The most common complaint is that IT's LIKE D2 too much AND lacking innovation.

 

 

With billions profit annually, they could atleast try to innovate. 

Yeah I was kinda expecting something new from Diablo 3.. same with Starcraft 2.  I doubt we will ever see anything "new" from blizzard until they release a new franchise. 

Originally posted by dooney

Yeah I was kinda expecting something new from Diablo 3.. same with Starcraft 2.  I doubt we will ever see anything "new" from blizzard until they release a new franchise. 

Blizzard does 'new'? Since when?!

e.g. Diablo was in development by a non-Blizzard company.

Blizzard came in to assist, saw Diablo and outright bought the company and renamed it 'Blizzard North'.

Originally posted by nomatics856

Diablo 3 has recieved a TON of criticism to the point of people being like this ruins the diablo franchise, I am never buying this game etc etc.

Now some criticism may be justified like not being allowed to choose your own stats or a true static spell/skill selection, a penalty for switching spells/skills on the fly.

Those are understandable, but the game got bashed for the stupidest things for example

 

1. (It`s too easy), this one is very very dumb, you played the tutorial 45 min version of act 1, not even the whole act, but 45 mins of act 1 normal mode (easy), yet you complain the games too easy?

2. (RMAH) this was almost number one, ALMOST, who cares if people buy items in the game? They been doing it for the longest time, through ebay, D2J etc. If people wanna buy items they will buy items, if they wanna sell items they will sell items. People say this is pay 2 win, whos winning? This isnt a mmorpg, Diablo 3 has no competition, people are going to be getting items either way, whether they spend 8 hours grinding diablo 3 all day or 8 hours grinding at work to get those items. I see no difference. If you hate it, dont use it, why is this a deal breaker?

3. (The graphics are WoWs graphics), another dumb one, this games graphics are not cartoony at all, if anything from what I played its just a more refined and a little brighter than diablo 2. When I logged on and played the game I thought it was going to be cartoony with no atmosphere. The graveyards and abandoned shacks etc, felt dark and creepy.

4. (I just dont like blizzard their all about money). So is every other company.

5. (path of exile is better) What again? Oh that game that gave most people a massive head and nausea due to its weird lighting.

 

In closing I know a lot of you are like "well thank you big daddy nomatics, but I STILL HATE BLIZZARD and Diablo 3 just sux because I take it ***#%## shoot. Well I cant help ya there!

I will agree that those reason are just hating, other than #3. Its graphics are not impressive at all, none of it. (doesn't make it a  bad game , and ill still play it, but it does have shitty graphics ... this and i liek wow graphics, sure they are dated but i like them).

Diablo 3 is not an improvemnt over d2 .. how about that? Most people who played both are going to agree that d2 was a better game by far, you can say i don't know this etc.. Your right but i am going to maintian it.

Want to play a good diablo esk game play  median XL its a mod for d2 and its AMAZING. Blizzard could have learned form it.. they went the opposite direction, easy play, no thought, etc. people will play and enjoy d3 (i know i will) but not even a fraction as much as people did d2 (i know i won't).

http://modsbylaz.hugelaser.com/

So yeah they are somethign that is called disapointed. Blizzard has all the money and took all the time in the world... and this is what we got. Mind you billzard designed this game with a new concept in mind, they had betas etc of it and their internal tester etc. chewed it apart , they moved that design closer back to what we saw in d2, but there a remnaints left, and they are not appealing.

Originally posted by nomatics856

Diablo 3 has recieved a TON of criticism to the point of people being like this ruins the diablo franchise, I am never buying this game etc etc.

Now some criticism may be justified like not being allowed to choose your own stats or a true static spell/skill selection, a penalty for switching spells/skills on the fly.

Those are understandable, but the game got bashed for the stupidest things for example

 

1. (It`s too easy), this one is very very dumb, you played the tutorial 45 min version of act 1, not even the whole act, but 45 mins of act 1 normal mode (easy), yet you complain the games too easy?

2. (RMAH) this was almost number one, ALMOST, who cares if people buy items in the game? They been doing it for the longest time, through ebay, D2J etc. If people wanna buy items they will buy items, if they wanna sell items they will sell items. People say this is pay 2 win, whos winning? This isnt a mmorpg, Diablo 3 has no competition, people are going to be getting items either way, whether they spend 8 hours grinding diablo 3 all day or 8 hours grinding at work to get those items. I see no difference. If you hate it, dont use it, why is this a deal breaker?

3. (The graphics are WoWs graphics), another dumb one, this games graphics are not cartoony at all, if anything from what I played its just a more refined and a little brighter than diablo 2. When I logged on and played the game I thought it was going to be cartoony with no atmosphere. The graveyards and abandoned shacks etc, felt dark and creepy.

4. (I just dont like blizzard their all about money). So is every other company.

5. (path of exile is better) What again? Oh that game that gave most people a massive head and nausea due to its weird lighting.

 

In closing I know a lot of you are like "well thank you big daddy nomatics, but I STILL HATE BLIZZARD and Diablo 3 just sux because I take it ***#%## shoot. Well I cant help ya there!

Hey Op, I'm in the future 2 months here to tell you how wrong you are. Diablo 3 is terrible and everyone now hates blizzard. Take it easy.

I was about to give in and buy Diablo 3 , until I read they want me to pay £44.99 and then put restrictions on my gameplay for 72 hours ? ... arrogant cheeky bastards ... so Fuck Blizzard and  fuck Diablo 3 from me ;)

Originally posted by andypandyr

I was about to give in and buy Diablo 3 , until I read they want me to pay £44.99 and then put restrictions on my gameplay for 72 hours ? ... arrogant cheeky bastards ... so Fuck Blizzard and  fuck Diablo 3 from me ;)

So you decided to post in this old thread? Also you don't have to get diablo for 45 quid. You can easily buy it for around 30. 

Originally posted by fivoroth

Originally posted by andypandyr

I was about to give in and buy Diablo 3 , until I read they want me to pay £44.99 and then put restrictions on my gameplay for 72 hours ? ... arrogant cheeky bastards ... so Fuck Blizzard and  fuck Diablo 3 from me ;)

So you decided to post in this old thread? Also you don't have to get diablo for 45 quid. You can easily buy it for around 30. 

Yeah didn't really want to make a Thread about , just looked for a suitable Thread to post it in really ;)

And where can you get a Digital Download for 30 quid ?

I hate Diablo 3 not because it's Blizzard, but because I waited a decade for a sequel, and got one of the most disappointing games of my lifetime. I played SWTOR longer than I did Diablo 3, and that was even with me knowing I'd quit SWTOR in a short period of time.

D3 is broken and ruined, and will take an incredible series of patches, plus a change in mindset for anything to improve.

Originally posted by gameguy369

I hate Diablo 3 not because it's Blizzard, but because I waited a decade for a sequel, and got one of the most disappointing games of my lifetime. I played SWTOR longer than I did Diablo 3, and that was even with me knowing I'd quit SWTOR in a short period of time. 

D3 is broken and ruined, and will take an incredible series of patches, plus a change in mindset for anything to improve.

1. How far did you get? Hell? Inferno?

2. How many classes did you play?

3. What part of the game did you find disappointing?

4. MMO's are usually played longer than other games. D3 is not an MMO

5. Did you play solo or with others?

6. Did you buy all your gear or farm them yourself?

Originally posted by Psychow

Originally posted by gameguy369

I hate Diablo 3 not because it's Blizzard, but because I waited a decade for a sequel, and got one of the most disappointing games of my lifetime. I played SWTOR longer than I did Diablo 3, and that was even with me knowing I'd quit SWTOR in a short period of time. 

D3 is broken and ruined, and will take an incredible series of patches, plus a change in mindset for anything to improve.

 

1. How far did you get? Hell? Inferno?

2. How many classes did you play?

3. What part of the game did you find disappointing?

4. MMO's are usually played longer than other games. D3 is not an MMO

5. Did you play solo or with others?

6. Did you buy all your gear or farm them yourself?

1. Act 2 Inferno. Quit after the patch came out simplifying it when I realized how much of the rest of the game I disliked anyway.

2. All of them actually, 2 of them to level 60.

3. Itemization is god awful. I took two characters to 60, never saw a legendary. My girlfriend saw one drop. 99% of the equipment we used was from the AH, and not actual drops. 4 players instead of 8 players. The fact that Jay Wilson, who is one of the big decision makers, essentially stated that D2 was not a fun game and we look at it with rose colored glasses - problem of course is people STILL play D2 where as people are quitting D3 after a month. The game touted not having cookie cutter builds, and I'd argue it is actually WORSE than D2 was. You are forced into certain skills to survive inferno or you wont get anywhere. Up until a patch a few weeks back, it actually promoted solo play rather than group play because Inferno with 4 people was not possible. The game is built around the use of the RMAH - even item drops are effected by what is listed on the AH (do some reading on that, its great). Graphics are dated upon release. They have to bring down servers for hours upon hours - did you know GW2 did a patch during beta weekend, and the downtime was an estimated 10 seconds? Not exaggerating. Some achievements do not track properly. The fact that you hit max level within a week - hitting 99 in D2 wasnt a huge deal, but you at least felt like you were always working towards *something* besides just item drops - so even if you got crappy drops, you still gained just a bit more XP. Thats about all the random complaints I can think of at the moment.

4. I am not simply a MMO player. For example, in the past few months I have played a mix of (besides D3), League of Legends, Battlefield 3, Rift, GW2 betas, Tribes Ascend, Path of Exile, Borderlands, and then a few others. I dont easily get bored of games - SWTOR was simply an example of one I knew I'd only play for a month and be done with it.

5 - Played solo and with others. Problem is, I have many more friends than just 3, and it sucks when theres 5-6 of us online, and we used to group on D2 - a game made over a decade ago - and in D3 we can not group.

6 - Tried to farm, ended up forced to use the AH to progress.

Edit: and more on Jay Wilson's view of D3... http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5911771771

The extreme lack of features alone make it look like a game from 8 years ago.

Originally posted by nomatics856

Diablo 3 has recieved a TON of criticism to the point of people being like this ruins the diablo franchise, I am never buying this game etc etc.

Now some criticism may be justified like not being allowed to choose your own stats or a true static spell/skill selection, a penalty for switching spells/skills on the fly.

Those are understandable, but the game got bashed for the stupidest things for example

 

1. (It`s too easy), this one is very very dumb, you played the tutorial 45 min version of act 1, not even the whole act, but 45 mins of act 1 normal mode (easy), yet you complain the games too easy?

2. (RMAH) this was almost number one, ALMOST, who cares if people buy items in the game? They been doing it for the longest time, through ebay, D2J etc. If people wanna buy items they will buy items, if they wanna sell items they will sell items. People say this is pay 2 win, whos winning? This isnt a mmorpg, Diablo 3 has no competition, people are going to be getting items either way, whether they spend 8 hours grinding diablo 3 all day or 8 hours grinding at work to get those items. I see no difference. If you hate it, dont use it, why is this a deal breaker?

3. (The graphics are WoWs graphics), another dumb one, this games graphics are not cartoony at all, if anything from what I played its just a more refined and a little brighter than diablo 2. When I logged on and played the game I thought it was going to be cartoony with no atmosphere. The graveyards and abandoned shacks etc, felt dark and creepy.

4. (I just dont like blizzard their all about money). So is every other company.

5. (path of exile is better) What again? Oh that game that gave most people a massive head and nausea due to its weird lighting.

 

In closing I know a lot of you are like "well thank you big daddy nomatics, but I STILL HATE BLIZZARD and Diablo 3 just sux because I take it ***#%## shoot. Well I cant help ya there!

Diablo 3 has recieved a TON of fanboism to the point of people being like this tops the diablo franchise, I am confused at people not buying this game etc etc.

Now some fanboism may be justified like they have the best cinematics or Diablo  III has monks!

Those are understandable, but the game got glorified for the stupidest things for example

1. (It`s challenging), this one is very very dumb, you played inferno Act I for 45 hours trying to get a decent drop, not even the whole act, because really you need better gear to be here, so go grind Hell difficulty for years to try and get your gear. Oh wait, you can't get it on hell difficulty. Well that does make it challenging, to the point of futile.

2. (RMAH) this was almost number one, ALMOST, who cares if Blizzard taxes people for buying items in the game? Governments have been doing it for the longest time, through income taxes, sales taxes,  etc. If people wanna buy items they will buy items, if they wanna sell items they will sell items, Blizzard just wants to profit from anything they can. People say this is pay 2 win, because it is.  Diablo 3 has no competition in the RMAH, people are going to be paying their Blizzard taxes either way, whether they spend 8 hours grinding diablo 3 all day or 8 hours grinding at work to get those items. I see no difference. If you bought the game, you basically applied for a job in the Blizzard money mill, who wouldn't want that?

3. (Online only isn't a problem), another dumb one, this game doesn't benefit from online only at all, if anything it suffers from less people being willing to play it. When I realized I couldn't play unless I was logged on I realized they don't care about how I want to play, they only want to turn my gaming blood, sweat and tears into profit. The morals of Blizzard feel dark and creepy.

4. (Every other company wants to make a profit, so why hate Blizzard just because they are more extreme about it?).

5. (no other game can compare to Diablo III) The glowering fanboism really makes me want to vomit.

In closing I know a lot of you are like "well thank you big daddy eyelolled, but I STILL LOVE BLIZZARD and Diablo 3 just rox because I take it ***#%## shoot. Well I cant help ya there!

Originally posted by nomatics856

Diablo 3 has recieved a TON of criticism to the point of people being like this ruins the diablo franchise, I am never buying this game etc etc.

Now some criticism may be justified like not being allowed to choose your own stats or a true static spell/skill selection, a penalty for switching spells/skills on the fly.

Those are understandable, but the game got bashed for the stupidest things for example

 

1. (It`s too easy), this one is very very dumb, you played the tutorial 45 min version of act 1, not even the whole act, but 45 mins of act 1 normal mode (easy), yet you complain the games too easy?

2. (RMAH) this was almost number one, ALMOST, who cares if people buy items in the game? They been doing it for the longest time, through ebay, D2J etc. If people wanna buy items they will buy items, if they wanna sell items they will sell items. People say this is pay 2 win, whos winning? This isnt a mmorpg, Diablo 3 has no competition, people are going to be getting items either way, whether they spend 8 hours grinding diablo 3 all day or 8 hours grinding at work to get those items. I see no difference. If you hate it, dont use it, why is this a deal breaker?

3. (The graphics are WoWs graphics), another dumb one, this games graphics are not cartoony at all, if anything from what I played its just a more refined and a little brighter than diablo 2. When I logged on and played the game I thought it was going to be cartoony with no atmosphere. The graveyards and abandoned shacks etc, felt dark and creepy.

4. (I just dont like blizzard their all about money). So is every other company.

5. (path of exile is better) What again? Oh that game that gave most people a massive head and nausea due to its weird lighting.

 

In closing I know a lot of you are like "well thank you big daddy nomatics, but I STILL HATE BLIZZARD and Diablo 3 just sux because I take it ***#%## shoot. Well I cant help ya there!

#3   Is not dumb,  The game needs to differentiate itself from WOW and establish itself as part of the Diablo series.  It did not accomplish this in the opinions of many.

#2 and #4 go together, and I disagree on #4.  First off , an apostrophe denotes the use of multiple words, so they word for "they are" is they're, not their.  Secondly, every company is *somewhat* about the money, while Blizzard is *all* about the money.  There is a huge difference, but if you do not see the flaws in Diablo 3, I am pretty sure you'll refuse to acknowledge that.