Bought it for both my kids... Already way more enjoyment than 2 other games I got for myself.

See you in structured PvP :-)

(Did'nt get my wife a copy though - It won't run on an iPad)

Originally posted by grogstorm

Blahh, Blahh, Blahh, everyone keeps posting…GW2 is awesome, it rocks, it’s the WoW killer etc.  And that is all fine and dandy.  But it is time to put your money where your mouth is.

 

We all know someone who is just wasting their time and money paying a sub for a game they have already all but played out.  It’s time to just go out and buy them a copy of the game.  This will in effect teach them that they don’t have to pay a sub just to log in and sit around a campfire comparing farts.  They can instead have all the adventure and excitement of a full blown MMO without having to pay a sub.

 

The money they will save without a sub will allow them to get a little something for their sweetie as well as get any future expansions.

 

So help a friend today and you will have helped them for a lifetime of game play.   As to those of us who actually pony up and buy that extra copy we will have supported a great game and only helped to make it better.

 

Note: All you haters keep coming and post all your venom.  All you are accomplishing is raising the hype meter that will only get more people turned on to the truth.

What a stupid idea.  If someone bought this game for me, I'd feel pity for them for wasting their money.

i can haz box pl0x?

good idea though. would be cool if MMORPG hooked up with STEAM or Walmart or w.e and sold copies which if you bought 2, gave you the ability to post on the games forums.

heh that'll never work .. good idea tho.

Originally posted by grogstorm

Blahh, Blahh, Blahh, everyone keeps posting…GW2 is awesome, it rocks, it’s the WoW killer etc.  And that is all fine and dandy.  But it is time to put your money where your mouth is.

 

We all know someone who is just wasting their time and money paying a sub for a game they have already all but played out.  It’s time to just go out and buy them a copy of the game.  This will in effect teach them that they don’t have to pay a sub just to log in and sit around a campfire comparing farts.  They can instead have all the adventure and excitement of a full blown MMO without having to pay a sub.

 

The money they will save without a sub will allow them to get a little something for their sweetie as well as get any future expansions.

 

So help a friend today and you will have helped them for a lifetime of game play.   As to those of us who actually pony up and buy that extra copy we will have supported a great game and only helped to make it better.

 

Note: All you haters keep coming and post all your venom.  All you are accomplishing is raising the hype meter that will only get more people turned on to the truth.

I'd rather spend the rest of my money on charity. You know, helping people who don't have clothes to wear or food to eat. People who haven't seen a computer in their whole life or read a book. Rather then providing games for my friends who already live quite luxurious lives.

Originally posted by raven29

I'd rather spend the rest of my money on charity. You know, helping people who don't have clothes to wear or food to eat. People who haven't seen a computer in their whole life or read a book. Rather then providing games for my friends who already live quite luxurious lives.

Following this logic, no one should play games or have entertainment devices at all.

There are numerous ways to help people in need without giving hard cash (which is usually the worst possible option). And there is nothing wrong to use your hard-earned money doing whatever you want, without any guilt.

Originally posted by Meowhead

Originally posted by raistlinm

generally not with ulterior motives in mind I like to buy my friends gifts that I know they will like.  not games that they may or may not like that I am just trying to inflate the purchase of.

MMORPGs are a social gaming thing.  You play it with your friends and often with family.  I don't see anything out of character with buying the game for your kids, or whatever.  Just by playing it yourself, you technically raise the value automatically for other people who might want to play something with you.  Did you actually READ the posts of the people who bought it?

For example, I mentioned I did NOT buy it for my friend who thought they probably wouldn't like it.

Since you like attributing purely selfish reasons to people, I'll explain my two purchases.

Friends A and B:  Get a single beta code of game.  Both are playing on that beta account.  Both love it.  Can't afford to buy a copy right now (Though saving for when it comes out.  Good thing that's a few months!).  Want to both play next BWE.  I say 'Okay.  I'll buy a copy for one of you right now'

Friend C:  Wants to play it, has no job currently, makes money through freelance art, plans to save for it (Which is a horrible way to make money sometimes).  I buy her a copy because I have a real job.

Even if they WEREN'T so enthusiastic about it, if a friend was just like 'Hey, I think I'd like to play it, but I'm not super sure', what's wrong with buying a friend a copy?

I've paid for friends to go to restaurants I like, because I hope they'll turn out to like it.

I've bought books for friends 'I liked this book.  I think you will too!'  In fact, isn't the whole IDEA of somebody buying GW2 for somebody (Say, as a gift), basically 'I think you'll like this'?  Who seriously buys gifts for somebody they think they might NOT like?  Unless it's a practical gift.  (Oh thanks.  Socks).

Do you just buy socks for people?  Or things they already own? D:  (I know you like Skyrim, so i bought you a second copy!  You're welcome! :D )

Was anybody actually advocating buying it for people who you DON'T think will like it?  If I like a product, and I think other people will like it as well, isn't that an ideal form of gift actually?

I find things I didn't even know I'd like a superior gift to things that I knew I'd like and probably would have gotten myself anyway.

honestly though the issue is that the people I actually associate with in my real everyday life don't play mmorpg's many of them who game I talked into trying mmorpgs and learned they don't like that type of gaming so I can only speak to my own personal experience not yours.

I realize many on these boards do have lot's of friends they deal with in real life who do game alot and may even play mmorpgs but I don't hence my stance.

Obviously if you associate with alot of people who game and more specifically play mmorpgs and you can also afford to buy tons of copies of a game be my guest and more power to you but as usual it's pretty difficult to view thngs and speak on things from someone elses perspective.

Going on what I read from the OP not any of the responders it sounds more like a ploy to try and kill off sub based games he doesn't speak about opening peoples eyes to the fun that is GW2 (though it is obviously implied) the post looks like a "troja horse" like you buy them the game they will find it so fun they will quit the sub based games they like and hence help to kill the sub based genre that is what I am against not sharing with friends or family.

I am an emcee and hang out with mostly musicians and producers and many of them would rather go to a pub a club or just a slamming party they aren't going to spend many if any nights tied to a computer gaming as I do so a video game would never be a nice gift for them but by all means if you think a friend would enjoy the game with you then I see nothing wrong with helping see them in with a gift.

I did read the posts of some of the responders and saw no problem with alot of the responders as stated on numerous occasions I saw fault in the way the op presented this post it sounds more like a war room strategy to get all the GW2 fans together to kill off sub gaming than anything having to do with simply enjoying GW2.

Originally posted by StrixMaxima

Originally posted by raven29

I'd rather spend the rest of my money on charity. You know, helping people who don't have clothes to wear or food to eat. People who haven't seen a computer in their whole life or read a book. Rather then providing games for my friends who already live quite luxurious lives.

Following this logic, no one should play games or have entertainment devices at all.

There are numerous ways to help people in need without giving hard cash (which is usually the worst possible option). And there is nothing wrong to use your hard-earned money doing whatever you want, without any guilt.

Following this logic? When did I say no one should play games or have entertainment? I like how you take things out of context. I posted regarding the OP's notion of supporting a company by buying multiple copies. It has nothing to do with self entertainment or gifts, I'm already getting my copy and thats enough for me.

Secondly, I never said there is anything wrong with using your money in w/e way you want to, did I? If you read my post it clearly said: "I'd rather" implying me not the whole humanity.

And lastly, how do you know I don't do volunteer work or help people aside from providing money? And no, providing money isn't the worst possible option, that's just your opinion.

Originally posted by DannyGlover

 

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Originally posted by Meowhead

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Originally posted by raistlinm generally not with ulterior motives in mind I like to buy my friends gifts that I know they will like.  not games that they may or may not like that I am just trying to inflate the purchase of.

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MMORPGs are a social gaming thing.  You play it with your friends and often with family.  I don't see anything out of character with buying the game for your kids, or whatever.  Just by playing it yourself, you technically raise the value automatically for other people who might want to play something with you.  Did you actually READ the posts of the people who bought it?

 

For example, I mentioned I did NOT buy it for my friend who thought they probably wouldn't like it.

Since you like attributing purely selfish reasons to people, I'll explain my two purchases.

Friends A and B:  Get a single beta code of game.  Both are playing on that beta account.  Both love it.  Can't afford to buy a copy right now (Though saving for when it comes out.  Good thing that's a few months!).  Want to both play next BWE.  I say 'Okay.  I'll buy a copy for one of you right now'

Friend C:  Wants to play it, has no job currently, makes money through freelance art, plans to save for it (Which is a horrible way to make money sometimes).  I buy her a copy because I have a real job.

Even if they WEREN'T so enthusiastic about it, if a friend was just like 'Hey, I think I'd like to play it, but I'm not super sure', what's wrong with buying a friend a copy?

I've paid for friends to go to restaurants I like, because I hope they'll turn out to like it.

I've bought books for friends 'I liked this book.  I think you will too!'  In fact, isn't the whole IDEA of somebody buying GW2 for somebody (Say, as a gift), basically 'I think you'll like this'?  Who seriously buys gifts for somebody they think they might NOT like?  Unless it's a practical gift.  (Oh thanks.  Socks).

Do you just buy socks for people?  Or things they already own? D:  (I know you like Skyrim, so i bought you a second copy!  You're welcome! :D )

Was anybody actually advocating buying it for people who you DON'T think will like it?  If I like a product, and I think other people will like it as well, isn't that an ideal form of gift actually?

I find things I didn't even know I'd like a superior gift to things that I knew I'd like and probably would have gotten myself anyway.

 

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Its a zero sum mentality that leaks into things where zero sum has no place. I have no idea why people are "against" games. Its ok to like or not like a game, or even be somewhere in between. But theres too many people on all these subforums that cannot grasp this simple fact. In order for their favorite whatever to "win", all others must "lose". That is the poison that spreads throughout social interaction right now.

and this is the problem I had with the OP, I cant stress enough the O-P not the responders many of them seemed to post with general excitment about the game including meowhead but as stated in the last reply I was bothered by the "war room" strategy tone to the post like for GW2 to be an enjoyable game it needs to crush the sub based genre and it is as dannyglover stated a problem I have with these boards they are more about what we don't like and killing it more than it's about actually propping up the games that we like.

I tend to take an eyeroll aproach to GW2 because of the way many of the games fans try to shit on everyother game that didn't meet their own expectations not because they are bad games they just aren't fun to them and they then take to alternating between bashing games they have no interest in then hyping the game they are interested in and you know what?

Not once have I bothered to try and bait these same people when they do present a post that shows they are pleased with the game they have before them but when they come off like this then I do feel a need to stand up and say something.

I'm fine with any one person buying as many copies of whatever game they like but what I would hope for is that it is because they find the game enjoyable and think the person they are giving it to will as well and not simply because someone has an ulterior motive to destroy subscription based gaming.

Originally posted by raistlinm

I did read the posts of some of the responders and saw no problem with alot of the responders as stated on numerous occasions I saw fault in the way the op presented this post it sounds more like a war room strategy to get all the GW2 fans together to kill off sub gaming than anything having to do with simply enjoying GW2.

 I thought the OP reasoning was a bit silly myself, but you'll notice I didn't respond to you until your post about some people being silly for buying multiple copies, and like you put it 'for an entire football team'.

Honestly, every post I saw after the OP was just people mentioning they bought it for people they like, so I just thought that particular comment of yours was out of line.

If you want to talk about how the OP is a bit over the top, fine, but I think everybody else mentioning buying multiple copies brought a fairly reasonable tone and had perfectly legitimate reasons.

Also, to all the people saying they don't want people to buy you a copy, don't worry, we won't!

Though maybe we should start a fund to buy a copy for DannyGlover. :(

Originally posted by Meowhead

Originally posted by raistlinm

I did read the posts of some of the responders and saw no problem with alot of the responders as stated on numerous occasions I saw fault in the way the op presented this post it sounds more like a war room strategy to get all the GW2 fans together to kill off sub gaming than anything having to do with simply enjoying GW2.

 I thought the OP reasoning was a bit silly myself, but you'll notice I didn't respond to you until your post about some people being silly for buying multiple copies, and like you put it 'for an entire football team'.

Honestly, every post I saw after the OP was just people mentioning they bought it for people they like, so I just thought that particular comment of yours was out of line.

If you want to talk about how the OP is a bit over the top, fine, but I think everybody else mentioning buying multiple copies brought a fairly reasonable tone and had perfectly legitimate reasons.

Also, to all the people saying they don't want people to buy you a copy, don't worry, we won't!

Though maybe we should start a fund to buy a copy for DannyGlover. :(

I only mentioned that in jest and in regards to another poster who was against buying multiple copies for whatever reasons, I was simply making a joke and considering what you have said and what I myself read the joke probably was in poor taste especially since you thought that it meant I was intending to throw a shot at either you or any of the other responders and for that I do apologize because quite frankly I agree with you 100 percent every person who has responded did so reasonably by mentioning buying a few copies for the kids and as you stated buying for a friend you know would appreciate the game.

And I am never against that but I think it's one of those things where I let what I read in the op seep into my summation of other posts I had read and again for that I apologize.

Originally posted by raven29

Following this logic? When did I say no one should play games or have entertainment? I like how you take things out of context. I posted regarding the OP's notion of supporting a company by buying multiple copies. It has nothing to do with self entertainment or gifts, I'm already getting my copy and thats enough for me.

Secondly, I never said there is anything wrong with using your money in w/e way you want to, did I? If you read my post it clearly said: "I'd rather" implying me not the whole humanity.

And lastly, how do you know I don't do volunteer work or help people aside from providing money? And no, providing money isn't the worst possible option, that's just your opinion.

Defensive much, huh?

A logic is a statement implied in a train of thought. It is a simple extrapolation, and something that all humans do. It's not rocket science.

Your opinion was also chastisement about others who differ from it. As was my post. It is a classic 'guilt by proxy' statement, of which I disagree. Nothing more, nothing less.

Note that I not in a single moment directed anything I wrote towards you. I made no assumptions besides what you wrote (the blame game thing). You don't care what I do, and I don't care what you do. It's your choice, as I have written in my post.

Yes, I consider providing money the worst solution. But, it's my opinion only, obviously. Thus, the carefully-placed 'usually'.

It is amazing how people think that any disagreement is a personal attack to someone's honor, integrity, family and religion. Isn't a forum about discussing ideas? Geez.

As long as people have bought the game, it doesn't matter if they get bored quickly and leave, they are always free to come back with no regrets. Also its great if they are having fun playing the game. Otherwise what more does one want?

I might... I would rather they buy their own copy, though. lol

Originally posted by StrixMaxima

Originally posted by raven29

Following this logic? When did I say no one should play games or have entertainment? I like how you take things out of context. I posted regarding the OP's notion of supporting a company by buying multiple copies. It has nothing to do with self entertainment or gifts, I'm already getting my copy and thats enough for me.

Secondly, I never said there is anything wrong with using your money in w/e way you want to, did I? If you read my post it clearly said: "I'd rather" implying me not the whole humanity.

And lastly, how do you know I don't do volunteer work or help people aside from providing money? And no, providing money isn't the worst possible option, that's just your opinion.

Defensive much, huh?

A logic is a statement implied in a train of thought. It is a simple extrapolation, and something that all humans do. It's not rocket science.

Your opinion was also chastisement about others who differ from it. As was my post. It is a classic 'guilt by proxy' statement, of which I disagree. Nothing more, nothing less.

Note that I not in a single moment directed anything I wrote towards you. I made no assumptions besides what you wrote (the blame game thing). You don't care what I do, and I don't care what you do. It's your choice, as I have written in my post.

Yes, I consider providing money the worst solution. But, it's my opinion only, obviously. Thus, the carefully-placed 'usually'.

It is amazing how people think that any disagreement is a personal attack to someone's honor, integrity, family and religion. Isn't a forum about discussing ideas? Geez.

On the contrary it was your post that came off as being 'defensive'. You took things out of context to disagree with me, saying "following this logic, no one should play games or have entertainment devices at all." No where in my post did I preach to others or say one should not spend money on luxury and give everything to the needy. Your post makes no sense to me.

Lol @ providing me with a dictionary on words I didn't ask for.

Originally posted by Fangrim

Dodge....Dodge....Dodge.....Dead....

Stand there....Stand there.....Stand there...Dead...

Originally posted by raven29

On the contrary it was your post that came off as being 'defensive'.

Sure. It was poor me who brought up the plight of the needy to a mere game discussion.

Anyway, you won the discussion, here are your internetz, let's move on with the offtopicness.

I've also bought two extra copies on top of my wife's and mine. I'm sure whichever of my friends i end up giving them to will enjoy them ^^

Originally posted by Fangrim

Dodge....Dodge....Dodge.....Dead....

Hmm, I never had that problem one bit! Must be my age or something, you young kids must have terrible reflexes! lol

Originally posted by Vutar

Originally posted by Fangrim

Dodge....Dodge....Dodge.....Dead....

 

Stand there....Stand there.....Stand there...Dead...

Pfft, noobs. Circle Strafe....Dodge.....Rally.....Win.