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General Discussion  » Horrible Anti-Aliasing anything I can do?

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  Aerowyn

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6/19/12 5:40:58 PM#41

fxaa injectors didn't help... i'm thinking its an issue with games support for transperancy AA. Latest beta drivers for nvidia said added nvidia control panel anti-aliasing support but none of the AA forced through the control panel work... I just installed Alan Wake to see if that had any issues and AA works perfect on that game so I'm pretty convinced it's not a bad video card or anything just somethings going on with this game.   Going to try some downsampling next perhaps that will help.

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  ShakyMo

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6/19/12 5:45:34 PM#42

are you running Sli.  If so there is a problem with latest Nvidia drivers, try rolling back or disabling one card.

 

weirdly Xfire works.

 

I only have 6870, I stick 2x MSAA on in hardware (as obviously FXAA wont work for me), I notice the difference.  I dont see how turning MSAA on in hardware cant work un les their are driver issues, MSAA is done with raw grunt in hardware, its not a software setting up a hardware post process filter thing like FXAA(nvidia), MLAA(amd) or SMAA (3rd party and best fluffy AA)

  Aerowyn

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6/19/12 5:46:30 PM#43
Originally posted by ShakyMo

are you running Sli.  If so there is a problem with latest Nvidia drivers, try rolling back or disabling one card.

 

weirdly Xfire works.

tried both still same stuff

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  ShakyMo

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6/19/12 5:51:05 PM#44

also you can have too much AA, sometimes 4* looks better than 16*

  Aerowyn

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6/19/12 5:54:26 PM#45
Originally posted by ShakyMo

also you can have too much AA, sometimes 4* looks better than 16*

thats my AF not AA... I tried MSAA at every level possible not one makes any difference in-game.. strange because other games work just fine but cant get it working at all in this one...

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Aerowyn

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6/19/12 8:08:01 PM#46

I updated the OP video with a much higher quality one.. watch the fencing and you will see white moving lines going across as I move. Its much much more noticable in game as the run up all the lamps and a lot of other things but it doesn't show up as well in video.. you can really see it well at the end of the video

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Aerowyn

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6/19/12 9:07:06 PM#47

another update... I talked to a secret world dev rep and they said all external forms of AA currently do not work in the game but will be adding support for them soon.  So forcing anything through any control panel or anything like that will have no effect in game which is what I noticed. 

 

I also had a friend of mine try their CB account and I showed them what was going on and they said their game does the same thing and they are on an ATI card. My friend also told me they didn't really notice it much unless they were looking for it so I guess I'm just really sensitive to this sort of stuff... hopefully the external AA support comes by launch:) 

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  User Deleted
6/20/12 3:38:43 AM#48


Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by AdamTM

 
Yes the edge shimmers, but since the video is just half the screen even at 1080p i cant magnify it and see if its actually an AA issue. I've seen similar stuff happen where the problem was AF not the AA. Game-engines render things differently and i cant say if the shimmer might not be some artifact from the bumpmapping or badly filtered spec-texture at a distance for example.
the shimmering is the issue as everything has this effect. Every car edge, every fence edge, every building edge shimmers when moving. 

I quite didn't understand what you are meaning until i've read this.
Sounds like a SSAO issue.

Lotro DX11 used to have that issue up before Isengard release on both ATI and AMD GPUs.
Disable it and see the result? Or try to mess with the settings through nvidia inspector for (SS)AO?


Unless you are refering to "shimmer" as jagged edges but then, that's the ugly FXAA is in todays games, and the only solution seems downsampling with spares grid supersampling. :)

  Aerowyn

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6/20/12 5:33:15 AM#49
Originally posted by skydiver12

 


Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by AdamTM

 
Yes the edge shimmers, but since the video is just half the screen even at 1080p i cant magnify it and see if its actually an AA issue. I've seen similar stuff happen where the problem was AF not the AA. Game-engines render things differently and i cant say if the shimmer might not be some artifact from the bumpmapping or badly filtered spec-texture at a distance for example.
the shimmering is the issue as everything has this effect. Every car edge, every fence edge, every building edge shimmers when moving. 

 

I quite didn't understand what you are meaning until i've read this.
Sounds like a SSAO issue.

Lotro DX11 used to have that issue up before Isengard release on both ATI and AMD GPUs.
Disable it and see the result? Or try to mess with the settings through nvidia inspector for (SS)AO?


Unless you are refering to "shimmer" as jagged edges but then, that's the ugly FXAA is in todays games, and the only solution seems downsampling with spares grid supersampling. :)

 

 

hopefully a decent  AA compatability bit will be out soon so I can use SGSSAA

watch the new OP video you can see the white lines move across some of the fences and light poles... again in game its much more annoying than what shows up in the recording.

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Jackdog

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6/20/12 8:14:03 AM#50

your video card drivers should let you overide the game settings on the AA from the desktop

 

edit - nevermind I should have read the entire thread before posting

I miss DAoC

  Aerowyn

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6/20/12 3:10:05 PM#51

here's another example in screenshot form glad to know its not my system but how more people don't get bothered by this is beyond me

 

anyway look at the rails in this SS see the small white dots/lines? well when moving these move as well and create a "shimmer" effect which is very distracting when it's happening all over the place... but I'm hopefull they will be good on their word and have support for other forms of AA soon

http://images.mmorpg.com/features/6496/images/facility1.jpg

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

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