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  Magnetia

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6/16/12 11:50:18 PM#161

Mass Effects story ruined GW2 Story for me. Can't help but appreciate the writing done in ME1-3

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  dimasok

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6/17/12 1:30:55 PM#162

No it didnt. I skipped all the GW2 cutscenes and by the time it said my personal story was over I didnt even know I was engaged in one! Yes I didnt care, but I loved the dynamic events, lack of quest hubs, combat, graphics, community, etc and that's more than enough for me given how mediocre SWTOR was even with its newfangled story voice overs and static cutscenes

  indojabijin

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6/17/12 1:39:38 PM#163

It's not a matter of just story. Some of those stories in swtor were bad. Some were good. It's a combination of the way they seemingly introduced the cinematics with the voice acting and story telling that works well for the game. I am not a fan of the way the story is PRESENTED in gw2. The cutscenes do not draw me in. The voice acting is okay (barely). At least the main story lines in swtor kept me entertained for a while. I'm just not feeling it for gw2. 

 

Had they done cutscenes like the original GW (obviously improved) I think it would've been much better than what we have now. 

  crewthief

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6/17/12 1:42:52 PM#164

I read books for a good story, I play MMO's for entertainment. If focusing so much energy and resources on story (hello SWTOR), means that nearly every other aspect of the game will be subpar (hello again SWTOR), then no thank you. GW2's storyline is just fine for what it is in my opinion.

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  Adiaris

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6/17/12 1:44:46 PM#165
Originally posted by Zorgo
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I bet you two get all the girls.

I laughed so so SO hard you have no idea. Thanks for that, needed a good chuckle!

  dimasok

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6/17/12 1:50:14 PM#166
Originally posted by indojabijin

It's not a matter of just story. Some of those stories in swtor were bad. Some were good. It's a combination of the way they seemingly introduced the cinematics with the voice acting and story telling that works well for the game. I am not a fan of the way the story is PRESENTED in gw2. The cutscenes do not draw me in. The voice acting is okay (barely). At least the main story lines in swtor kept me entertained for a while. I'm just not feeling it for gw2. 

 

Had they done cutscenes like the original GW (obviously improved) I think it would've been much better than what we have now. 

Who cares though? TOR with its stories had crappy gameplay. GW2 with its story that is not as well-presented and that I skipped (because frankly I couldnt care less) is such a complete experience for me that at this point nothing they do can possibly ruin the game for me I think.

On the 2nd beta they introduced chat bubbles that people were asking for. They LISTEN to the community. Every other MMO developer out there (especially you *Bioware*) should pay attention because THAT'S how you treat the customer and ArenaNet doesnt even charge us monthly!

When I think of all that, all other ocmpanies seem lame to me.

  Trol1

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6/17/12 6:23:28 PM#167
Originally posted by dimasok

On the 2nd beta they introduced chat bubbles that people were asking for. They LISTEN to the community. Every other MMO developer out there (especially you *Bioware*) should pay attention because THAT'S how you treat the customer and ArenaNet doesnt even charge us monthly!

When I think of all that, all other ocmpanies seem lame to me.

Chat bubbles? Chat bubbles made the game?

Right... 2 more reasons why I'm glad I'm not going play the game again...

on a side note: "They LISTEN to the community." It's always nice to run that sweet and happy picture in your mind until the company starts doing something that some part of the community feels should be there and the other doesn't... I don't think we need to go into games and details on that one, do we?

  Meowhead

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6/17/12 7:07:04 PM#168
Originally posted by Trol1some online FPS...

Why would you "waste" your time playing a - pen and paper game?

Because maybe you could learn something from it?

Whether social interaction or creative thought process, simple imagination or complex problem solution skills, tactics, strategy, the joy for creating something, there is a lot to be learned from roleplaying...

Jeez, really? I've had my SWTOR characters commit so many not so good deeds on a spur of a moment, partially because I felt they are right, but usually more so because I also felt that my character would react this way.

I find it amusing you're pushing RPing so hard in a topic about personal story, when basically either personal story.... GW2 or SWTOR... is pretty much antithetical to any serious RPing.

I mean, really.  There's only ONE bounty hunter player character in all of SWTOR, and everybody is playing various alternate reality versions of them.  Everybody with a class goes through the same story, just making slightly different decisions that don't actually change the path of the story. D:

(Note, I'm not saying GW2 is doing a better job of this)  Anybody who wants to be RPing a real character should be ignoring the hell out of the personal story in SWTOR or GW2, unless of course they want to be like EVERYBODY ELSE who happens to have the same story.

If I had a P&P DM who said 'Oh, you want to be a warrior?  Here.  Here's your character sheet, and you're going to go through these specific events, and when we get to those events, I'll give you 2, 3 choices on how to respond.  What, you had a better idea?  Screw that.  You're doing one of the choices I give you', I'd rebel and run the campaign myself and relegate that DM to the role of player.

Personal story isn't much like RPing, it's more closely akin to a Choose Your Own Adventure book. :T

  MosesZD

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6/17/12 7:29:57 PM#169
Originally posted by DarkPony

 

I don't really think you got the point I tried to make; having a choice in conversations and getting to pick brutal / snide / respectful lines whenever YOU feel like it does much more for presenting story in rpg's and making you feel invested in your character compared to the actual depth or quality of plot lines.

Whether Swtor's plot lines are better than GW2's is debatable (I think GW2's are much more shallow, personally), but by giving you a choice, even if it's just superficial (i.e. not influencing much) in every conversation, it blows GW2's way of story presentation out of the water in my opinion.

 

edit:typos

 

No.  They were pointless choices and you quicky learned that.   So, except for light and dark points, they just didn't matter.   Plus, they never really said what I wanted them to say and sometimes the approximations given as choices were so far off that I was like 'what the heck, where did that come from?'

 

 

 

 

 

  MosesZD

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6/17/12 8:12:06 PM#170
Originally posted by Valentina

SWTOR's story and presentation are both exceedingly better than GW2's, there's no competition there unfortunately. I can't see how anyone could honestly say SWTOR's story was bad, and that it's presentation was bad, they must not have actually played it. I've played singleplayer RPG's with worse stories then SWTOR's, at least in SWTOR your choices effect your own play experience, something all together unprecidented in MMO's so far. GW2's method of story presentation isn't nearly as seamless, in fact they go out of their way to take you out of the game world for horrendous "cinematics" or "cut scenes" where you're flailing your arms around WoW emote style, with another character, with a distracting wallpaper thing playing in the background. The story of GW2 is generic, and while you can make choices it all feels so cut and pasted, and all around disconnected.

GW2 is a great game in several areas of content, though, even if story isn't one in my honest opinion, but so is SW:TOR and I do think that SW:TOR in the end will have spoiled people in several aspects of gameplay that they'll find it hard to adjust to anything else including GW2, I know I did, and I know many other people have as well just by talking to them in GW2 beta weekends. I'll be playing both games, they both offer something to players that set them each apart from one another, and they're the only major releases we're going to be seeing for quite a while. ESO doesn't come out til next year, and I kind of suspect it won't be til the end of next year if it makes it's projected release year at all.

 

Because not everyone is enamoured with third-rate fan-fiction by people with no talent?    I've read the books that have come out of BioWare staff.    They're bad.   Really bad.   They make the Vampire Porn garbage Charlene Harris writes read like Ulysses or Catcher in the Rye.

 

Honestly, those stories weren't even 'good' for poorly written pulp fiction.   The dialogue was okay in most of them.  But the stories themselves were so over-the-top unbelievable they were putrid.   I mean, really, think about the conclusion of the Jedi Knight story:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuyAfEgYAMo&feature=related

 

Melodramatic bad guy speechs.     Ranting and raving.   My fight would have ended at 12:09 when I would kept moving my lightsaber down...   Oh, but I'm not allowed to.  The control is taken away for the over-done, lame conclusion.  

 

And how did i get there?   That was the Ultimate Bad Guy!   But hey, if we make enough lame Deus Ex Machina plot holes, we can waltz right in...

 

  MosesZD

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6/17/12 8:32:07 PM#171
Originally posted by terrant

Let's see. One game has a great story with some choice (although as usual you're polazrized into being good or bad for the rewards) and tremendous voice acting, but the combat is some of the dullest stuff I've ever played. 

 

The other game has fairly meh voice acting and OK stories, but I ahven't had so much fun playing in years

 

Nope. Not ruined for me.

 

That's just too funny.  Many of the VAs will be same people.  Human male = male consular for example (Nolan North).  Human female = female Jedi Knight (Keri Wahlgren).   There are at least a few more -- Troy Baker,  April Stewart,  Steve Blum, Kyle Hebert, and Jen Dixon who played various NPC voices.

Felicia Day, was not in SWTOR, is in GW2 and she rocks.   Ellen Dubin is in (played in Lexx, Ilene in Napolean Dynamite).    

 

Really, there are only a couple of 'unknowns.'    All the rest are "A level" Voice-over talents.   With MOST of the GW2 VAs in SWTOR.

 

So, I'm not sure where you're coming from when you're criticizing the VA.   If any thing, Nolan North is much better as human noble than he was as Jedi Consular. 

  terrant

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6/17/12 8:39:48 PM#172
Originally posted by MosesZD
Originally posted by terrant

Let's see. One game has a great story with some choice (although as usual you're polazrized into being good or bad for the rewards) and tremendous voice acting, but the combat is some of the dullest stuff I've ever played. 

 

The other game has fairly meh voice acting and OK stories, but I ahven't had so much fun playing in years

 

Nope. Not ruined for me.

 

That's just too funny.  Many of the VAs will be same people.  Human male = male consular for example (Nolan North).  Human female = female Jedi Knight (Keri Wahlgren).   There are at least a few more -- Troy Baker,  April Stewart,  Steve Blum, Kyle Hebert, and Jen Dixon who played various NPC voices.

Felicia Day, was not in SWTOR, is in GW2 and she rocks.   Ellen Dubin is in (played in Lexx, Ilene in Napolean Dynamite).    

 

Really, there are only a couple of 'unknowns.'    All the rest are "A level" Voice-over talents.   With MOST of the GW2 VAs in SWTOR.

 

So, I'm not sure where you're coming from when you're criticizing the VA.   If any thing, Nolan North is much better as human noble than he was as Jedi Consular. 

The think dialogue writing and direction  count for something too. A VA can be awesome, but if they people behind the script fail, they can't do much about it. My beef with GW2 VAs is so many sound..dispassionate. Bored even. And the races don't feel like they have distinct accents/racial patterns to their speech. 

 

That said I enjoy GW2's story, and I thought ToR's story was quite good as well. I'd rate ToR's story/acting 9/10 at least, and GW2's at least a 7. However gameplay in GW2 is so much more interesting, that it improves any minor flaws in storytelling for me.

  MosesZD

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6/17/12 9:01:26 PM#173
Originally posted by DJJazzy

My issue with how swtor told their stories is that they tried to fit single player gaming into an mmo. They needed to do a lot of other changes in order for it to work. As it is, it feels jarring to come out of the story part of the missions into the mmo world.

 

My issue is that they hired writers like the woman on the right.   (The woman on the left writes for GW2.)

 

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3237/prxi4.png

 

Anyway, the SWTOR stories were not very good.   The writing talent was definitely not "A" list and it showed.   The stories were full of obvious plot holes, MacGuffins, deliberately withheld information necessary so solve the 'mystery' of the story like a children's mystery novel series (Nancy Drew, Hardy Boys) does because they couldn't do any better than that and jarring, phony physics (their reliance on impossible doomsday weapons).   It didn't help that I'm extremely well read  in science fiction and a fan of old fashioned Space Opera and saw where they not so subtly stole may of their ideas.

 

In fact, I'll say this.  I played TSW this weekend.  Duirng Beta 3.   Stories there, as far as I got, were excellent.   Character models need work, especially the female faces.   The cut-scenes are no great artistic accomplishments (they're ok, just not great or anything) .  But the stories were A-talent stories.  

 

If you're a 'story' person, they kick SWTOR's (and GW2's) stories to hell and back.   I really didn't think I'd buy that game.   Not anything that Funcom AND EA attached to it...   But it's surprisingly good for a STORY MMO.     I don't know about 'end game' or the rest.   But the stories are good and well done.  Even most of the 'throwaway' FEDEX quests.

  FlawSGI

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6/17/12 9:05:59 PM#174

 I voted other since I didn't really agree with the poll choices. I didn't think TOR's story was good at all and the way it was delivered, while different, wasn't to my liking. After a little while the choices were a lot of repeats and it was pretty dull so no, TOR's story had no bearing on GW2's story.

 

On the other hand, GW2's story isn't all that impressive, but I can only base that on an unfinished product and a very small sample of it. I didn't get into the personal stories during any BWE because I wanted to save that for release, but I did try a little bit of the humans early portions to test bringing in other players to participate and see how it worked. The lack of options and the VO's really didn't bother me in this game either because while I like lore, I don't have a preferance on how it is delivered. I would have thought having options would be great but since it didn't impress in TOR, I can't say I have a good track record with the style even though many were saying they could never go back to another MMO that didn't have that feature. To that  I call shenanigan.

 

While TOR put a bad taste in my mouth and I didn't think the story was good, I still don't hold that against other games such as GW2. TOR story and delivery were crap IMO and it didn't make GW2's better or worse. The closest you had was GW2's story was not fun, but this isn't my answer because I still don't know and if it's bad it will have nothing to do with TOR.

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  Irus

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6/17/12 9:10:07 PM#175
Originally posted by MosesZD
Ellen Dubin is in.

WHAT?!*

*LEXX fan.

  madjonNZ

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Posts: 143

6/17/12 9:13:41 PM#176

I enjoyed the sith Inq. story but the world, the zones - their facades and the way the game plays let it down.

GW2 doesn't have the full on voice sequences as in swtor  BUT the worlds, zones and gameplay mechanics make me enjoy the game in this sense a lot more than swtor.

 

I guess swtor left me feeling like I HAD to do the storylines if i wanted interesting stuff to do - otherwise there was nothing much - GW2 has plenty, PLENTY to do even if you don't touch your story line....

  Trol1

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6/17/12 10:27:23 PM#177
Originally posted by Meowhead
Originally posted by Trol1some online FPS...

Why would you "waste" your time playing a - pen and paper game?

Because maybe you could learn something from it?

Whether social interaction or creative thought process, simple imagination or complex problem solution skills, tactics, strategy, the joy for creating something, there is a lot to be learned from roleplaying...

Jeez, really? I've had my SWTOR characters commit so many not so good deeds on a spur of a moment, partially because I felt they are right, but usually more so because I also felt that my character would react this way.

I find it amusing you're pushing RPing so hard in a topic about personal story, when basically either personal story.... GW2 or SWTOR... is pretty much antithetical to any serious RPing.

I mean, really.  There's only ONE bounty hunter player character in all of SWTOR, and everybody is playing various alternate reality versions of them.  Everybody with a class goes through the same story, just making slightly different decisions that don't actually change the path of the story. D:

(Note, I'm not saying GW2 is doing a better job of this)  Anybody who wants to be RPing a real character should be ignoring the hell out of the personal story in SWTOR or GW2, unless of course they want to be like EVERYBODY ELSE who happens to have the same story.

If I had a P&P DM who said 'Oh, you want to be a warrior?  Here.  Here's your character sheet, and you're going to go through these specific events, and when we get to those events, I'll give you 2, 3 choices on how to respond.  What, you had a better idea?  Screw that.  You're doing one of the choices I give you', I'd rebel and run the campaign myself and relegate that DM to the role of player.

Personal story isn't much like RPing, it's more closely akin to a Choose Your Own Adventure book. :T


Meow, you are basically right...

but these are the limitations of life!

I ended up with MMORPGs after my p&p RPG groups had started to desintegrate (mostly due to people rather playing online FPS) and with my first MMORPG (DAoC) I actually found something was living a bit in that old spirit: you could form a group and go out adventuring with your own character.

Now, there have obviously been feeble attempts at creating a real p&p RPG like setup in a few games, but usually very limited as far as success goes. - Here is to hoping for Neverwinter's Foundry!

Right now, if you don't have a actual p&p RPG group, or access to a virtual gaming table, or just want to play a - usually - templated character in a singleplayer game, the PS of SWTOR or GW2 are your best, your "onliest" hope.

And yes, forgive for accepting that these characters are again templated... but see, when I played the SWTOR beta, the first character I played was the Smuggler, and we clicked just fine!

Had I played a Sith Warrior or a JC or a trooper, I think I would not have been as easily hooked...

Yeah, so yes, you are right... but that's as good as it gets right now ;-)

  UngoHumungo

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I'm here......wheres the fish?

6/18/12 12:46:24 AM#178
Originally posted by Trol1
Originally posted by graggok

 The fact I provided you

 all the super offensive things you said.

removed..... this is an excercise in futility on my part, I am just feeding trolls I know I am correct I don't need his validation

There are times when one must ask themselves is it my passion that truly frightens you? Or your own?

  loulaki

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6/18/12 2:04:29 AM#179
Originally posted by Meowhead

(Note, I'm not saying GW2 is doing a better job of this)  Anybody who wants to be RPing a real character should be ignoring the hell out of the personal story in SWTOR or GW2, unless of course they want to be like EVERYBODY ELSE who happens to have the same story.

If I had a P&P DM who said 'Oh, you want to be a warrior?  Here.  Here's your character sheet, and you're going to go through these specific events, and when we get to those events, I'll give you 2, 3 choices on how to respond.  What, you had a better idea?  Screw that.  You're doing one of the choices I give you', I'd rebel and run the campaign myself and relegate that DM to the role of player.

Personal story isn't much like RPing, it's more closely akin to a Choose Your Own Adventure book. :T

just quoted in order to be repeated ...

  Trol1

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6/18/12 6:00:56 AM#180
Originally posted by graggok
Originally posted by Trol1
Originally posted by graggok

 The fact I provided you

 all the super offensive things you said.

removed..... this is an excercise in futility on my part, I am just feeding trolls I know I am correct I don't need his validation

Of course you are always right, you can never be wrong considering that you are a confirmed (by yourself) SW  nerd.

And yet, maybe, once in a while, don't you feel that bit of a doubt where you think, hm, maybe I could be wrong? Especially if I can't find a single source to back me up? Only source that prove me *gasp* wrong?

So, let's leave it at this: you have no clue what you are talking about, the topic had a fun little detour, is now back on track, and everybody will hace some ice creme later today. Okay? ;-)

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