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6/15/12 8:41:35 PM#21
Originally posted by Mephster When your game cost more to develop, and your company to run, than it returned in sales revenue. |
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6/15/12 9:31:45 PM#22
Honestly, I would rather see gaming houses go bankrupt then allow free loaders and the F2P model. "Good, honorable gamers will continue to fit the bill for the poor and lower classed people. It's just a sign of the times." ~ Anonymous. Lakexeno.com |
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6/15/12 9:38:18 PM#23
Originally posted by BlueCameo How do you do that? You manage to turn anything into an F2P gripe, regardless of the subject matter.
"Kane and Lynch scored a 5.5 on metacritc" "Better than it going F2P and seeing a bunch a freeloaders play off of MY hard-earned dime"
"Nasa just launched a new shuttle aimed at exploring Jupiter" "As long as it doesn't mean SW:ToR going F2P, then I'm fine with that"
"The Euro is holding steady this quarter" "Goddamned F2P making my currency value drop because of poor people!" Writer / Musician / Game Designer Now Playing: Skyrim, Wurm Online, Tropico 4 |
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6/15/12 9:39:22 PM#24
Originally posted by BlueCameo I dunno, F2P is much more capitalistic than the sub model. In the sub model everyone is on equal footing; very communistic/socialistic (pick you derogitory economic slur). F2P with a cash shop, only those that fork over money get access to everything the game offers, or if it is a particularly forgiving f2p model like Aion, then you can buy xp boosts and other items that the pesants can't afford and you can. Capitalism FTW! |
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6/16/12 12:27:36 AM#25
Originally posted by niceguy3978 the communists made most of the parts in the computer you posted on
the communists likely made most of the parts in your cell phone and tv
the communists made parts in your american car
and the communists continually loan us money so we can buy more stuff from the communists.
how exactly is capitalism for the win again? Games i'm playing right now... "In short, I thought NGE was a very bad idea" - Raph Koster talking about NGE on his blog at raphkoster.com |
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6/16/12 12:31:58 AM#26
Originally posted by cerebrix What, is this the 1950's? Just say "the Chinese" ffs... ~and I blame politicians that knew they could get rich via lobbying and leave office long before helter skelter came. Writer / Musician / Game Designer Now Playing: Skyrim, Wurm Online, Tropico 4 |
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6/16/12 3:39:41 AM#27
Originally posted by Shoju Nah. It is when your one-million copies sold game have also to finance huge mmorpg apart of itself. |
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6/16/12 3:51:16 AM#28
it's a shame really. hopefully he can learn from this and still pursue his dream. |
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Betaguy
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Joined: 12/31/04
The king and the pawn go back to the same box at the end of the day. |
6/16/12 3:51:24 AM#29
Originally posted by Panther2103 I enjoyed the game as well, but that is not what broke the bank... he under estimated how much his secret little mmo was gonna cost and couldn't afford or deliver. Epic fail. Baseball star, gone gamer with too much money and a meathead idea.
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6/16/12 5:12:19 AM#30
Originally posted by cerebrix Hah 1. China is as far away from the ideas of communism, as is the Earth from the center of our galaxy. 2. If it were not for the "capitalists" countries, no one would buy these products and there wouldn't be a profit in producing them.
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6/16/12 5:30:26 AM#31
Originally posted by Saranum
but your right its more like a king sitting on his chair pissing on the everyone  |
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6/16/12 5:35:51 AM#32
EA probably behind this cause it was a good game. Shame. |
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6/16/12 5:36:41 AM#33
Originally posted by Saranum
but your right its more like a king sitting on his chair pissing on the everyone |
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6/16/12 5:38:48 AM#34
This is truly a sad thing for all involved. Curt is a gamer and had a vision. Yes it failed as visions often do. At least he had the balls to try. Lots of familys are hurting right now because of this. To say he deserves it and such it just the rant of a moron. Hero Evermore |
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bartoni33
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Joined: 5/03/06
Admit nothing, deny everything and make counter accusations |
6/16/12 5:39:32 AM#35
Originally posted by orbitxo A nice game, yes. Great, not so much. Beautiful, FFS no. Unless you think WoW and its ilk are beautiful. What hurt KoA is its insane price tag. $60 was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much for it. If they had charged what it actually was worth ($40 at best with DLC's included) it would have sold more copies and made more money. Releasing the Demo before launch hurt it too. See above for reason. 
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6/16/12 5:48:19 AM#36
Originally posted by bartoni33
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bartoni33
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Joined: 5/03/06
Admit nothing, deny everything and make counter accusations |
6/16/12 5:57:22 AM#37
Originally posted by gilgamesh42 Very true but the extra income that would have been made if they had charged a reasonable ammount for KoA MIGHT have helped. Might. Like a Band-aid on a beheading I suppose.
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6/16/12 1:55:16 PM#38
This guy woke up after a hall of fame career and said, "Hey, I want to make a great game for people who love games." Then he did. He managed the making of the game and getting that done. He brought in big hitters from gaming and movies to crunch the numbers. Then you throw in the people telling him the EA deal would work? Then throw in a lying sleaze-ball politician who grossly exaggerated the amount given to the company. It wasn't 120 million. They received 40 million and were set to get the rest of the money to finish Copernicus. When Chafee was elected he did everything he could to torpedo the company, because he hates Schilling... What is a shame is that someone like Chafee (who has done nothing in his life, and who spends other people's money for a living, who has wasted more than a measly 40 million) can take down people like Schilling, Salvatore, MacFarland, and Ralston with lies and negative hype. If you think it was other-wise, you know shit about the business.
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6/16/12 11:28:21 PM#39
I really feel sorry for the guy. He's an idealist gamer, a bad businessman, and probably had people working for him that abused his trust. Also, this is why you form a corporation, and don't entangle your personal finances with it. |
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6/16/12 11:39:07 PM#40
Originally posted by GTwander I literally LOLed at this. Made my day, well that and my hot gf. |
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