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  BlueCameo

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6/15/12 10:30:51 PM#61
Originally posted by Siveria
Originally posted by darkhalf357x
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus

Its pretty obvious that F2P is the direction that the MMO industry is heading, and the recent news of TOR only reinforces that. With that in mind, how long do you think it will be before TSW goes F2P? And do you think they actually *plan* on going F2P after they have recouped the development cost from box sales and subs?

I hope soon because I love this game!  I'd play it everyday if it was free.  But because it has a sub Ill probably never see it launch.

F2P is the future. Its a better business model.  I hope it sticks.

Better business model when done right, and not when its done wrong like lotro and ddo have.

 

Cry me a river. You are saying their business model isn't "done right?" It's F2P and they are ensuring they have 0 free loaders. They have found your achiless heel.

 

 

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  niceguy3978

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6/15/12 10:30:53 PM#62
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus
Originally posted by Siveria
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus
Originally posted by BlueCameo

If a game goes F2P after initial release of not being F2P I will never touch it.

Your really missing out. I currently play several F2P games that launched P2P and I dont pay a dime. I get a lot of enterainment value for absolutely free  :D

Only problem is ones like Lotro and ddo where like 95% of the game is locked out to you unless you sub or buy adventure packs to unlock quest lines. Those ones I hate because they are biliantly trying to nickle and dime their playerbase.

I actually dont mind this at all. I'd rather buy the *specific* things I want than pay the same amount every month regardless of how much  or little I play.

Pretty much this, I have access to everything I want right now in LOTRO and I've spent a total of 25$.  Now, I will admit that this has been through judicious use of the sales of both the cash shop and things like gamestop that offered the fellowship of the ring quest package and 2k turbine points for 14.99 (it is still only 19.99 through them).  Along with being an altaholic which has enabled me to get quite a bit of turbine points from playing the game.  I don't play it hardcore, usually about 5-10 hours a week as a second mmo.  That wasn't enough to get me to buy the box and sub when it was p2p, but I now get what I want out of it for less, and those that want more out of it pay more.

  niceguy3978

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6/15/12 10:31:43 PM#63
Originally posted by BlueCameo
Originally posted by Siveria
Originally posted by darkhalf357x
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus

Its pretty obvious that F2P is the direction that the MMO industry is heading, and the recent news of TOR only reinforces that. With that in mind, how long do you think it will be before TSW goes F2P? And do you think they actually *plan* on going F2P after they have recouped the development cost from box sales and subs?

I hope soon because I love this game!  I'd play it everyday if it was free.  But because it has a sub Ill probably never see it launch.

F2P is the future. Its a better business model.  I hope it sticks.

Better business model when done right, and not when its done wrong like lotro and ddo have.

 

Cry me a river. You are saying their business model isn't "done right?" It's F2P and they are ensuring they have 0 free loaders. They have found your achiless heel.

 

 

If they wanted 0 free loaders they wouldn't allow you to earn turbine points in the game.

  Grand_Nagus

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6/15/12 10:32:27 PM#64
Originally posted by BlueCameo
Cry me a river. 

Irony is a funny thing  :D

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  BlueCameo

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6/15/12 10:34:31 PM#65
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus
Originally posted by BlueCameo
Cry me a river. 

Irony is a funny thing  :D

Status quo is wonderful. :D

More should be "like mike" (LOTRO/EQ2)

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  Dfix

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6/15/12 10:36:08 PM#66
Originally posted by cooper85
Originally posted by Dfix

Hopefully before launch because...OMG... game is freakin horrid.  Wow, glad I got a free key to play and did not have to preorder like some people.

Hmm what is it that you didnt like? How long did you play? did you play? probably not....

I played. I thought the UI was great but that's as far as it went. Character models were garbage.[mod edit] Jumping just looks unatural. I love the idea of the game but you can tell it was just rushed through and not well thought out at all.  Felt like I was playing gta on PS2.

 

It's too bad really. I think a Silent Hill type mmo would be great because I love the genre. Oh well.

  Grand_Nagus

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6/15/12 10:38:12 PM#67
Originally posted by BlueCameo
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus
Originally posted by BlueCameo
Cry me a river. 

Irony is a funny thing  :D

Status quo is wonderful. :D

More should be "like mike" (LOTRO/EQ2)

Thats fine with me. LOTRO is one of the games I play and have yet to buy anything. However when I want something, I will.

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  BlueCameo

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6/15/12 10:39:57 PM#68
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus
Originally posted by BlueCameo
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus
Originally posted by BlueCameo
Cry me a river. 

Irony is a funny thing  :D

Status quo is wonderful. :D

More should be "like mike" (LOTRO/EQ2)

Thats fine with me. LOTRO is one of the games I play and have yet to buy anything. However when I want something, I will.

 

EQ2 is the game I still play actually. They have level restrictions, race restrictions and gear restrictions. Everything is finely tuned though so if you want anything "extra" (such as a hybrid class) you gotta pay for it.

 

[mod edit]

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  darkhalf357x

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6/15/12 10:41:30 PM#69
Originally posted by BlueCameo
Originally posted by Siveria
Originally posted by darkhalf357x
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus

Its pretty obvious that F2P is the direction that the MMO industry is heading, and the recent news of TOR only reinforces that. With that in mind, how long do you think it will be before TSW goes F2P? And do you think they actually *plan* on going F2P after they have recouped the development cost from box sales and subs?

I hope soon because I love this game!  I'd play it everyday if it was free.  But because it has a sub Ill probably never see it launch.

F2P is the future. Its a better business model.  I hope it sticks.

Better business model when done right, and not when its done wrong like lotro and ddo have.

 

Cry me a river. You are saying their business model isn't "done right?" It's F2P and they are ensuring they have 0 free loaders. They have found your achiless heel.

 

 

What am I crying for? That makes no sense. I didnt say their model wasn't "right".  I said F2P is the future.  You said Its F2P? But assuming thats a typo :-)

Why would I care if someone played for free? Community? Seen bad ones in premium P2P. 

Well, it cant be an achilles heel if I could pay for it whenever I felt like it.  I just choose not to.  And Ill promptly change my mind if they ever go F2P.

  Derpybird

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6/15/12 10:42:01 PM#70
Originally posted by cooper85
Originally posted by Charlizzard

What I don't get is why they haven't yet revealed their cash shop. The only things we know are:

1) This game launches in 2 weeks.

2) Funcom's most recent financial projections included an expectation that, on average, players would be paying $5.25 a month for items from the cash shop.

3) Cash shop purchases are on top of a suscription fee, meaning that they're expecting over $20/month per user in fees.

4) They have talked about "convenience" and "nice to have" items but these are open to interpretation.

 

The question is, what are they putting in there that somehow makes it so lucrative for them? And why aren't they showing this in the beta?

All you need to know is "We will not sell power" That means no gear, no cash to gold conversions, NO pwer. 

 

Other games not saying any names.. say stuff like "We will not sell anything that gives an unfair advantage." wtf does that mean lol.

If it's so innocent, why won't they show us? Why such vague terms as "nice to have" and "convenience"?

They already sold bonus items depending on what level package you bought. A $15 Initiate's pack gets you a pet and a set of "high end" beginner weapons. A $60 master pack gets you seven high-end talismans, experience pots and other perks. So haven't they already "sold power"?

And what do they expect every player, on average, to purchase each month to meet their financial projections? How many pairs of shoes do you need?

"Loading screens" are not "instances".
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  GTwander

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6/15/12 10:48:54 PM#71
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  Grand_Nagus

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6/15/12 10:49:27 PM#72
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  Joe_Cool

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6/15/12 10:50:11 PM#73

I really like Lotro p2p/f2p layout i have spent only $20 and almost unlocked the whole game

 

  Grand_Nagus

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6/15/12 10:53:21 PM#74
Originally posted by BlueCameo
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus
Originally posted by BlueCameo
 I will never accept a freeloader and everytime I see it, boot to the face.

[mod edit[

You should actually step it up a notch. Laughter is good for you, so the more of that funny stuff you say the healthier you make me and the longer I can be around doing what you love  :D

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  cooper85

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6/15/12 10:56:20 PM#75
Originally posted by Charlizzard
Originally posted by cooper85
Originally posted by Charlizzard

What I don't get is why they haven't yet revealed their cash shop. The only things we know are:

1) This game launches in 2 weeks.

2) Funcom's most recent financial projections included an expectation that, on average, players would be paying $5.25 a month for items from the cash shop.

3) Cash shop purchases are on top of a suscription fee, meaning that they're expecting over $20/month per user in fees.

4) They have talked about "convenience" and "nice to have" items but these are open to interpretation.

 

The question is, what are they putting in there that somehow makes it so lucrative for them? And why aren't they showing this in the beta?

All you need to know is "We will not sell power" That means no gear, no cash to gold conversions, NO pwer. 

 

Other games not saying any names.. say stuff like "We will not sell anything that gives an unfair advantage." wtf does that mean lol.

If it's so innocent, why won't they show us? Why such vague terms as "nice to have" and "convenience"?

They already sold bonus items depending on what level package you bought. A $15 Initiate's pack gets you a pet and a set of "high end" beginner weapons. A $60 master pack gets you seven high-end talismans, experience pots and other perks. So haven't they already "sold power"?

And what do they expect every player, on average, to purchase each month to meet their financial projections? How many pairs of shoes do you need?

A LOT. I change clothes depending on where I'm at and what time it is lol That's just me though. I could see myself spending a good 10 a month on clothes.

  BlueCameo

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6/15/12 10:57:03 PM#76
Originally posted by Dfix
Originally posted by BlueCameo
Originally posted by Dfix
Originally posted by BlueCameo
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus
Originally posted by BlueCameo
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus
Originally posted by BlueCameo
Cry me a river. 

Irony is a funny thing  :D

Status quo is wonderful. :D

More should be "like mike" (LOTRO/EQ2)

Thats fine with me. LOTRO is one of the games I play and have yet to buy anything. However when I want something, I will.

 

I'm like one of those Blizzard was talking about "Active political gamers." :) I will never accept a freeloader and everytime I see it, boot to the face.

 

 

"The meek deserve their lot in life." ~ Aleister Crowley.


I think that applies to keyboard tuff guys too.

 

I'm not the one so hard up trying to ensure every game out there is free and I'll pay for the little bits and pieces I want to pay for. My girlfriend poked me and said  "BURGER KING GAMERS?!"

ROFLMAO.

"Good, honorable gamers will continue to fit the bill for the poor and lower classed people. It's just a sign of the times." ~ Anonymous. Lakexeno.com

  Grand_Nagus

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6/15/12 11:00:13 PM#77
Originally posted by BlueCameo
I'm not the one so hard up trying to ensure every game out there is free and I'll pay for the little bits and pieces I want to pay for.

My girlfriend poked me and said 

"BURGER KING GAMERS?!"

ROFLMAO.

Aw, thats cute; she's bad at analogies. Picking and choosing the specific things you want is more like ordering from a menu, which you also do at very expensive restaurants. Paying for everything is more like a buffet. Let us know what she says next  :D

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  BlueCameo

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6/15/12 11:01:21 PM#78
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus
Originally posted by BlueCameo
I'm not the one so hard up trying to ensure every game out there is free and I'll pay for the little bits and pieces I want to pay for.

My girlfriend poked me and said 

"BURGER KING GAMERS?!"

ROFLMAO.

Aw, thats cute; she's bad at analogies. Picking and choosing the specific things you want is more like ordering from a menu, which you also do at very expensive restaurants. Paying for everything is more like a buffet.

 

Nah that's my new thing. Burger King Gamers = freeloaders. Epic.

"Good, honorable gamers will continue to fit the bill for the poor and lower classed people. It's just a sign of the times." ~ Anonymous. Lakexeno.com

  Grand_Nagus

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6/15/12 11:02:34 PM#79
Originally posted by BlueCameo
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus
Originally posted by BlueCameo
I'm not the one so hard up trying to ensure every game out there is free and I'll pay for the little bits and pieces I want to pay for.

My girlfriend poked me and said 

"BURGER KING GAMERS?!"

ROFLMAO.

Aw, thats cute; she's bad at analogies. Picking and choosing the specific things you want is more like ordering from a menu, which you also do at very expensive restaurants. Paying for everything is more like a buffet.

 

Nah that's my new thing. Burger King Gamers = freeloaders. Epic.

Except "freeloaders" dont pay for things. Even at BK you have to spend money. You guys are terrible with analogies, but you sure are funny :D

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  GTwander

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6/15/12 11:04:41 PM#80
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus
Originally posted by BlueCameo
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus
Originally posted by BlueCameo
I'm not the one so hard up trying to ensure every game out there is free and I'll pay for the little bits and pieces I want to pay for.

My girlfriend poked me and said 

"BURGER KING GAMERS?!"

ROFLMAO.

Aw, thats cute; she's bad at analogies. Picking and choosing the specific things you want is more like ordering from a menu, which you also do at very expensive restaurants. Paying for everything is more like a buffet.

 

Nah that's my new thing. Burger King Gamers = freeloaders. Epic.

Except "freeloaders" dont pay for things. Even at BK you have to spend money. You guys are terrible with analogies, but you sure are funny :D

It's a terrible analogy for the terrible burger king games you had to pay 5$ for when you bought a meal.

Either way, not free, and I doubt his grilfriend told him that - more like a bunkmate.

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