I love Darkfall, but don't have time for it in my life.  I work, have a wife and kids and like to socialize.  If I was younger, I would still be playing darkfall because it has all the features that I want...except I don't have the time to do them anymore.

...it's not Darkfall, it's me.

Originally posted by VassagoMael

Originally posted by Luxurious

Just to be clear, i'm not interested in ideas on how to change Darkfall mechanics and gameplay, because on paper it's already the best MMORPG in the history of the genre (in my humble opinion). I'm interested in ideas related to getting another Dev on board to take the property over, or getting AV the resources it needs to take it to the next level.

That doesn't make any sense. People were driven away from the game because the awful long term game mechanics.

 Because they did not take the time to try it. It's a lot like skyrim/oblivion which you would not consider awful, I'm sure.

There were a lot of great things in Darkfall, and also some really shitty things.   Please don't flame me too much but I think Darkfall needs to get hit with the casual bat.  I'm not talking casual as in EZmode...EZmode games are a waste of time better served watching the worst possible sitcom imaginable or the Star Wars prequels.  

Number 1 problem with the game is the grind.  It was just too much.  I want to participate in FFA full loot pvp as much as the next internet badass but with job/kid/dogs the insane grind was a major hurdle.   It also kept me from getting much pvp in.  I remember running up to a guy and nailing him with my newly crafted 2 handed sword.  The result was an almost imperceptible movement on his health bar.  He hits me, I have almost no life left.  I did the wall of pain thing and overnight swimming as well so I made the effort.  It was just too much.  The game would work better with a skill cap at very reachable level.  That way PVP would at least be somewhat more accessible.  I'm not afraid to lose my gear but I don't want to have to grind for months before I can even get in some fun pvp. 

I'm pretty sure a PVE server would fail.  A sandbox game would be pretty boring without being able to interact with other players. 

I did really like the mob AI in Darkfall, was much better than mob AI I have seen in any other mmorpgs.  It could be improved since exploiting mobs was pretty easy in Darkfall, but not a big issue since the game is about players, not mobs. 

Originally posted by wrekognize

 Because they did not take the time to try it. It's a lot like skyrim/oblivion which you would not consider awful, I'm sure.

Except Skyrim/Oblivion do not have 6 month grinds...

Okay guys, my bad.

Originally posted by Deleted User

"Tasos Flambourascame forth today with word that not only is the project still powering forward, but the development team is growing as new hires are brought on to assist in the efforts" That was from Jan. has something major changed? 

"That was from Jan." It's almost July. They've been releasing "updates" like that for two years. Maybe longer? Nothing is happening. Darkfall 2.0 isn't coming out in 2012, and it probably isn't coming out in 2013, and by 2014, it won't matter. If people knew that Darkfall had no future, the game would just flat out die. Yes, I'm accusing the devs of keeping hope alive to milk subs. All communities need growth to thrive; stagnation yields decay. I'm not willing to rest on the laurels of these dubious updates, I want to take some kind of action to save the MMORPG that has the potential the be the best in the history of the genre. But let's find out. Let's get to the bottom of this. If it needs saving, then let's try and make something happen. I'm merely proposing that interested parties share ideas.

Interested Parties.

Ehhh, did the person delete their account?

Originally posted by VassagoMael

Originally posted by Deleted User

"Tasos Flambourascame forth today with word that not only is the project still powering forward, but the development team is growing as new hires are brought on to assist in the efforts" That was from Jan. has something major changed? 

"That was from Jan." It's almost July. They've been releasing "updates" like that for two years. Maybe longer? Nothing is happening. Darkfall 2.0 isn't coming out in 2012, and it probably isn't coming out in 2013, and by 2014, it won't matter. If people knew that Darkfall had no future, the game would just flat out die. Yes, I'm accusing the devs of keeping hope alive to milk subs. All communities need growth to thrive; stagnation yields decay. I'm not willing to rest on the laurels of these dubious updates, I want to take some kind of action to save the MMORPG that has the potential the be the best in the history of the genre. But let's find out. Let's get to the bottom of this. If it needs saving, then let's try and make something happen. I'm merely proposing that interested parties share ideas.

Interested Parties.

Ehhh, did the person delete their account?

Yep, he didn't get a single response to his query (to his satisfaction) so he lost faith I guess.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by VassagoMael

Originally posted by Deleted User

"Tasos Flambourascame forth today with word that not only is the project still powering forward, but the development team is growing as new hires are brought on to assist in the efforts" That was from Jan. has something major changed? 

"That was from Jan." It's almost July. They've been releasing "updates" like that for two years. Maybe longer? Nothing is happening. Darkfall 2.0 isn't coming out in 2012, and it probably isn't coming out in 2013, and by 2014, it won't matter. If people knew that Darkfall had no future, the game would just flat out die. Yes, I'm accusing the devs of keeping hope alive to milk subs. All communities need growth to thrive; stagnation yields decay. I'm not willing to rest on the laurels of these dubious updates, I want to take some kind of action to save the MMORPG that has the potential the be the best in the history of the genre. But let's find out. Let's get to the bottom of this. If it needs saving, then let's try and make something happen. I'm merely proposing that interested parties share ideas.

Interested Parties.

Ehhh, did the person delete their account?

Yep, he didn't get a single response to his query (to his satisfaction) so he lost faith I guess.

 

All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again...

First going F2P would be a good start to bring in some players, cash shop for cosmetic items and skill gain potions, opening up a PVE server with a optional PVP flagging would be another along with opening up more land for housing and city building so the seige system would be disabled on the PVE server, no transfers allowed to the said PVE server, a toolset for players to create quests to give more themepark content, there are some great features in the game , but the bugs lack of content and a bitter community bent on driving players away.

Personally i want DF to become a rich sandbox experience. With the announcements made obviously AV wants to drive the other direction which is not my.

NO GLOBAL  AUCTION HOUSE, NO TO INSTA LIMBO, NO TO GLOBAL BANKING, NO TO "FORTRESS" TYPE OF GAMEPLAY, YES TO REAL WARS OVER RACE, OVER RESSOURCES, OVER KINGDOMS AND AREA CONTROL

YES TO COMPLEX RESSOURCE SYSTEM, YES TO COMPLEX CRAFTING MECHANICS

YES TO RACIAL WARFARE; YES TO KINGDOM BORDERS AND AREA CONTROL MECHANICS TIED TO REGIONAL RESSOURCES

I DONT CARE ABOUT GRAPHICS AND LIGHTS AND ALL THAT CRAP NO CARES ABOUT AFTER A WEEK OF PLAYING !

The specialization sounds like a step in the right direction tho.

YES TO MAKE ALL PLAYSTYLES PLAYABLE ! EXPLORER, CRAFTER, SOCIALIZER ..BACK TO THE RECIPE OF INVENTORS OF THE GENRE MMOPRG !

So does Mr. Flambouras listen to that or will he ever present again FUNHULKS ?? as sandbox content ? umpf eek

Make DF F2P, with skill gap restriction for free users! For example... free users should be able to skill up to 50... and premium to max...simple... imagine the population if this will happen....

This is one smelly dirty litterbox here and the only way to clean it up is to throw it in the trash..

Some great concepts wasted on the desire to make a game to where grieving, ganking and then stealing and taking everything others have worked for after stabbing them in the back while chopping lumber is not only the norm but expected to be the way it is played..

Throw the whole litterbox away and learn a lesson..

Originally posted by Jakdstripper

as soon as they put a cap on stats/skills and give me a first person view melee combat....i'll be right there saving it with you.

Darkfall was an amazing game for sure, but the company behind is just trash.

Fire Tasos would be a good first step.

Develop a good game would be a good second...

Originally posted by afhn2110

Originally posted by Jakdstripper

as soon as they put a cap on stats/skills and give me a first person view melee combat....i'll be right there saving it with you.

Darkfall was an amazing game for sure, but the company behind is just trash.

How I think Darkfall can be saved?

Cap Skills

Unlock/Free View Perspective

Remove 40% Damage to Back

Remove Global Bank

Make Resources Localized, not Area/Zone Grid

Make Player Cities and Hamlets Modable/Changable (allow players to alter the layout of cities)

Sell Darkfall to a more competent and trustworthy company

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Personally i want DF to become a rich sandbox experience. With the announcements made obviously AV wants to drive the other direction which is not my.

 

NO GLOBAL  AUCTION HOUSE, NO TO INSTA LIMBO, NO TO GLOBAL BANKING, NO TO "FORTRESS" TYPE OF GAMEPLAY, YES TO REAL WARS OVER RACE, OVER RESSOURCES, OVER KINGDOMS AND AREA CONTROL

YES TO COMPLEX RESSOURCE SYSTEM, YES TO COMPLEX CRAFTING MECHANICS

YES TO RACIAL WARFARE; YES TO KINGDOM BORDERS AND AREA CONTROL MECHANICS TIED TO REGIONAL RESSOURCES

I DONT CARE ABOUT GRAPHICS AND LIGHTS AND ALL THAT CRAP NO CARES ABOUT AFTER A WEEK OF PLAYING !

The specialization sounds like a step in the right direction tho.

YES TO MAKE ALL PLAYSTYLES PLAYABLE ! EXPLORER, CRAFTER, SOCIALIZER ..BACK TO THE RECIPE OF INVENTORS OF THE GENRE MMOPRG !

 

So does Mr. Flambouras listen to that or will he ever present again FUNHULKS ?? as sandbox content ? umpf eek

 

...and make all in game chat use CAPs as default....so ^ guy will feel rigth at home.

what happened to Darkfall 2.0?

The best indication that a game should be saved is that it isn't going to die.

Originally posted by dageeza

This is one smelly dirty litterbox here and the only way to clean it up is to throw it in the trash..

Some great concepts wasted on the desire to make a game to where grieving, ganking and then stealing and taking everything others have worked for after stabbing them in the back while chopping lumber is not only the norm but expected to be the way it is played..

Throw the whole litterbox away and learn a lesson..

^This.

Ignore all the other post that preaty much said, make the game more like PvE WoW.

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Heres how you save Darkfall:

 

Open up PvE a PvE server with an optional method to turn into a player killer.

 

Game saved!

This is a joke right? This would be the final nail in the coffin.