Honestly this was terrible, especially after Skyrim trailer, you guys should be ready for a very hard landing with this title. My advise, just cancel the crap out of this before its too late.

The greatest problem facing this game is the use of the Elder Scrolls IP. The features in the game would be pretty good for a standard mmo (public dungeons, 3 faction RvR, etc.). The issue arises when compared to the traditional theme of the Elder Scrolls games (at least since Morrowind. I've not played the earlier games), which is freedom. As evident by the initial scenes in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, where you are initially a prisoner, then next you are free to choose who and what you want to be, and finally you escape and now you're free to do whatever you want to do.

ESO appears to remove many of these core themes of freedom (preset classes, defined racial adversity, etc.), and I think that clashes quite severly with the players' perspective of The Elder Scrolls. Its such a strong clash that it might actually cause the game to crash and burn. Which is kind of disheartening, because, like others have said, years ago those features would have been a godsend.

Unfortunately, these trailers do nothing to mitigate those issues to the fanbase. Instead of focusing on where the game meets traditional themes of the series, and how the new mechanics improve upon the experience, they threw out an exceptionally vague CGI trailer. Merely watching it, I would have had absolutely no clue this was Elder Scrolls game (the high elfs ears...), except for the logo.

Originally posted by Kaisen_Dexx

The greatest problem facing this game is the use of the Elder Scrolls IP. The features in the game would be pretty good for a standard mmo (public dungeons, 3 faction RvR, etc.). The issue arises when compared to the traditional theme of the Elder Scrolls games (at least since Morrowind. I've not played the earlier games), which is freedom. As evident by the initial scenes in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, where you are initially a prisoner, then next you are free to choose who and what you want to be, and finally you escape and now you're free to do whatever you want to do.

ESO appears to remove many of these core themes of freedom (preset classes, defined racial adversity, etc.), and I think that clashes quite severly with the players' perspective of The Elder Scrolls. Its such a strong clash that it might actually cause the game to crash and burn. Which is kind of disheartening, because, like others have said, years ago those features would have been a godsend.

Unfortunately, these trailers do nothing to mitigate those issues to the fanbase. Instead of focusing on where the game meets traditional themes of the series, and how the new mechanics improve upon the experience, they threw out an exceptionally vague CGI trailer. Merely watching it, I would have had absolutely no clue this was Elder Scrolls game (the high elfs ears...), except for the logo.

Thanks for actualy making an informed, non-biased post my friend. I tried to take up a similar view point on ESO whe info first came out about it. Hell I even said before ANY info had bee released that I would play the game no matter what, even if it was TOR with Orcs, but sadly its not even that, its something far less and disturbing and its for exactly thereasons you stated.

Ive never once said three-faction PVP doesnt sound awesome in a game, or public dungeons, but it doesnt belong in an ES game because its nothing like the core of the series as youve stated. If this game had just been "Fantasy Adventures online" I would have been more excited, but they raised their own bar way too high from the start and gave the fans nothing to reach for. Hell even if the game just had player housing or a very "Loose" class system that was easily manipulated and open I would have been 100% on board for ESO, but they are just giving nothing to the long time fans and the game will sink for it.

Gameplay is everything.

I really like CG trailers but this was just underwhelming.  Good graphics, 0 action.

Originally posted by Suzie_Ford

Zeni Max Studios has released a brand new trailer from The Elder Scrolls Online that is currently in development. The trailer was released during this week's E3 convention in Los Angeles, California.

Well, I suppose that was their first offering of showing us three uniquely different factions.  Might I have more, ladies and sirs?  

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by odinsrath

i c most people with 0-3 stars commenting that the trailers are fail sauce and the game is fail from get go because of it..

those are the same people that are too lazy to read or do any research on the game ...i know its hard for some to even watch someone speak about the game ...but watch this link..its much better and a bit more detailed..other than OMGONOZE NUT ANOTUH CGI TRAILR fail

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-the-elder/731254

The gameplay footage is even worse than the CGI trailer. Have you seen the character models? It's like WoW and SWTOR had a baby and it inherited the worst traits from both parents.

And what do stars have to do with anything anyway?

 SWTOR had good traits ! o.0 You it wasn't some sad excuse for a single player game run by dummys who look down on people then expect those same people top throw money at them?

Originally posted by Gajari

For a teaser trailer, it's not terrible... but doesn't everyone remember Skyrim's teaser ? That thing brought a tear to my eye. lol

"In their tongue, he is Dovahkiin... Dragonborn!" And the epic music. Ahhh...

This didn't stir up any emotions whatsoever. In no way excited. :(

I don't think this dev team ever played an Elder Scroll game from the mechanics listed and the look of it.

Really disappointing.

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Originally posted by marganculos

does it have TAB targeting?

Yes, TAB targeting, Levels, Classes, fixed Faction depending on Racial choice, only 3rd person view.

All the great things you know and love from your favorite MMOs

But nothing good from an Elder Scrolls game. So it's really sad to see it in this state.

I'm still praying for a scrap.

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Originally posted by Istavaan

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Originally posted by falc0n What slampig said....the game was just barely announced too so them showing this at E3 is nothing to cry about. UFC didn't show any gameplay either but I bet its going to be amazing.

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ufc has not been in development for 5 years.

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The fact that he would need that pointed out to him tells you everything you need to know. Not to mention pointing it out will have no bearing on his future methods used to form such opinions.

 

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Whatever, the fact is if they didnt show us the CG trailer at E3 you wouldnt even be crying about them not showing a gameplay trailer. Maybe I should just say quit crying period. There is plenty of games that are released that you could have fun with. Gameplay footage WILL come before they make you buy it dont worry. Another thing! While UFC hasnt been in development for 5 years i bet it still comes out before ESO so you have no point.

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Originally posted by Chrisbox
I really have to hand it to the "sandbox is the future" fanboys who have achieved their degrading of this entire forum goal with simple-minded statements on every MMO that gets announced.  Lets take a look at what zenimax has said vs. what the haters have said vs. what a veteran MMO player has said (myself).

• Zenimax: says will have three factions
• Haters say its nothing new
• Me: Its about damn time we saw this come back, getting tired of the whole good vs evil vibe (and I understand some MMO's lore demands it) 
  • Zenimax says will have public dungeons
  • Haters say nothing new again, and the same generic themepark concept is being repeated
  • Me: Again, tired of the Instanced BS, if it encourages social interaction and open world content I cant see why someone wouldn't be happy for it  Zenimax says will have 3 faction open world pvp Haters say its still not going to be special because its a themepark game Me: one word:YES, as a pvp player especially looking forward to this, and once again- taking out the instanced BS, and encouraging social interaction
    Zenimax says ESO will not have traditional ES elements such as first person combat etc Haters say: Man this is pathetic, they are turning the elder scrolls franchise into a WoW clone Me: Well no kidding, this shouldn't suprise anyone who's ever played an MMO and im quite suprised it does.  If you want that type of game there will be the single player RPG Elder scrolls for it, they are bringing it into the Themepark MMO space and thats something one would expect when doing so.

  Rage on gentlemen, rage on.

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+1 well said, I dont know why I even read the comments anymore over half the people who post here aka haters shouldnt even play mmos because those of us who enjoy them and have for over ten hres have to hear crying everytime some announcement shows up

Originally posted by Kaisen_Dexx

The greatest problem facing this game is the use of the Elder Scrolls IP. The features in the game would be pretty good for a standard mmo (public dungeons, 3 faction RvR, etc.). The issue arises when compared to the traditional theme of the Elder Scrolls games (at least since Morrowind. I've not played the earlier games), which is freedom. As evident by the initial scenes in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, where you are initially a prisoner, then next you are free to choose who and what you want to be, and finally you escape and now you're free to do whatever you want to do.

ESO appears to remove many of these core themes of freedom (preset classes, defined racial adversity, etc.), and I think that clashes quite severly with the players' perspective of The Elder Scrolls. Its such a strong clash that it might actually cause the game to crash and burn. Which is kind of disheartening, because, like others have said, years ago those features would have been a godsend.

Unfortunately, these trailers do nothing to mitigate those issues to the fanbase. Instead of focusing on where the game meets traditional themes of the series, and how the new mechanics improve upon the experience, they threw out an exceptionally vague CGI trailer. Merely watching it, I would have had absolutely no clue this was Elder Scrolls game (the high elfs ears...), except for the logo.

How is using Elder Scrolls IP a problem? The features they are talking about so far, nothing is even set in stone yet, are good for any MMO not just the standard.

Its not being compared to the traditional ES games, have you read what the game is about? Its The Elder Scrolls Online, not Skyrim online, Marrowind Online etc.

You can choose what race, faction and skill set when you create your character. You can also roll a different character if you like you still have freedom, its just not all in one character. Your argument is very small with what you are saying here also AGAIN for those that keep looking at this one trailer, you need to do this thing that is really hard I know for most of you,  you can research this game a bit more and watch the other trailers they have put out with a fly through of some parts of each of the realms and a couple dungeons, if you stopped to think or actually research it before rage posting you might have seen that this OP has only linked the one CGI trailer. 

How would an MMORPG with 3 faction PvP work if you didnt have to choose which side you were going to be on at the beginning?

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by QSatu

If they want to hype the game they should make better trailers. That was incredibly weak.

Agree with u there. sigh

 

hopefully they won't hype they'll take Arenanets approach and be factual and transparent about the whole thing.

Agreed. I mean, seriously, there's so many gameplay footage of gw2 that it feels like I've played it for 2 years now, not just 48 hours lol

BTW that was just day 1 of E3 You will get gameplay footage before E3 is done. Patience people, i mean babies.

Originally posted by QSatu

If they want to hype the game they should make better trailers. That was incredibly weak.

would you rather they over dramatize it and get everyone heart beating and TRY and over hype it with a CGI trailer. I thought it was Pretty damn good, not jaw dropping or ZOMG! but Well Done,leaves something to the imagination.

This trailer is an utter waste of time an money.

Sadly, if I can't mod out the textures (and have everyone see them) I really don't care to much about a "MMO" TES. Co-op (ie Left 4 Dead style) would be better....

But with all those sweet armor retexts over at Nexus how can Beth hope to come up with anything "cool".

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Here, let me just create some future newsfeed titles for ya

 

The Elder Scrolls Online: Zeni Max delcares major subscription dropoff

The Elder Scrolls Online: Zeni Max announces massive layoffs

The Elder Scrolls Online: Zeni Max takes TESO F2P

Sad thing this is most likey the fate of all most all new mmo's, if TESO is just another wow play model it will fall short, since it seems like allot of people are growing tired of the same ole game play over and over in a new skin, But not much is known here, maybe they went a different route maybe not, time will tell.. I have no expections for any new game any longer, been playing mmo's for 14+ years now, and when you strip them back to the core game, all I see is just another versions of eq../sigh

My main problem with this game is I was expecting The Elder Scrolls Online and not DAOC 2 with an Elder Scrolls paint job. The game sounds like it has some great ideas but it will never be TES with the core mechanics they have planned. I may still try it but I seriously doubt I'll play for very long. Having predefined classes, a hot bar and tab targeting in a TES game is just depressing to say the least.

Bren

Originally posted by odinsrath

this is a better trailer / look at the game if no1 has seen it

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-the-elder/731254

alot of people are up in arms about the comment he made about 200 player in a epic battle...imo he was referring to the pvp world / zone with the 3 factions ..not only 200 people online at 1 time...thats just silly to think that their servers can only hold 200 people

IMO it looks like vinilla wow ..wich was good..with 3 factions..wich is great..with 3 faction pvp..wich is awsome..not on "rails" as like many mmo's ...the way it looks NOW id pay 15$ for it..but if they start lowering the bar instead of raiseing it..like most mmo's ..im out

now lets just hope they stay true to what they are saying....cuz we all saw what TSW ended up like...alot of broken promises

For one thing, vanilla WoW launched with 2 player factions. Not 3. DAoC was the 1st mmo to have 3 player factions as well as 3 faction PvP. WoW was still in development when I was engaging in 3 faction keep seiges in DAoC. 

And do you mean SWTOR instead of TSW? Because while SWTOR definitely didn't deliver on many of it's "promises", it's really hard to say "cuz we all saw what TSW ended up like...alot of broken promises" when TSW hasn't yet released. 

When a developer tells us what features they intend to impliment in their game, and how they intend a game to be, they aren't promising us anything. They are merely informing us of thier intent and their vision for the game.

Anyone with any experience with mmos should be well aware that during development things change or get dropped altogether. Sometimes what the developer wanted to do just isn't feasable so they have to alter or abandon it. Saying they broke their promise when they have to do so, is fairly naive and quite silly.