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  Kiljaedenas

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Joined: 7/29/11
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To err is human, but to really f*ck things up you need a computer.

5/17/12 4:34:25 PM#41
Originally posted by Malcanis
Originally posted by Christooo
Originally posted by Salio69

if you are a real miner, i recommend you do what i did. i cancelled all four of my accounts until theres more done for miners. the pvpers cried, cried, and shed even more tears. they started cancelling their accounts, that didnt look to good for the investors now... ccp gave them shiny new toys to gank more people with.

 

You know I was actually thinking about doing that myself. What would happent to the eve economy if suddenly miners stopped bringing in ore and refining it to minerals? Would the economy crash or what?
Just saying, It'd be very interesting to see what would actually happen consisdering now that Drones don't give nearly as much minerals as they did pre-patch
 

 

I can definitely tell you what "would" happen, because it's already happening.

 

Last Friday I met up with a rather senior Goon* in London and had a chat with him. He told me that he's been running 4 or 5 hulks plus a Rorqual in a dead end system in Deklein, cherry-picking the ABC ores from mining anomalies and Grav plexes, and making about 4-500M/hr doing it.

I believe the words he used were along the lines of "mining is still pretty boring, but making nearly half a bill an hour does take the sting out of it". His major complaint was losing all his mining drones every time he had to safe up. But then mining drones are super cheap so...

Anyway: He's far from the only one.

So there's your answer: once the reward gets high enough, "PvP" players will overcome their inherent distaste for mining and do it anyway because the money is too good to ignore. And because these are people who are used to being situationally aware, have already set up intel channels, routinely work with others, and live in 0.0 to start with, then all the complaints that hi-sec miners make are irrelevent to them. Your complaints are laughable to them. They're literally laughing at you, because in quitting you've given them a new hi-income profession as well as your inane tears for them to enjoy.

They're adapting and thriving, you're quitting and crying.

 

*Very pleasant fellow. Good company.

I agree with everything here. I usually mission for my income because a) as boring as it is it's still more fun than mining, and b) before the drone loot patch and botter bash even in a nearly maxed Hulk if I solo mined in a 0.5 system I could still make only about 1/8 of what I could missioning.

However, I've been keeping an eye on the mineral prices. If they get much higher then mining is going to be a VERY nice source of income, so I'll just go to some roids, start shooting lasers, sit back and read a good book while the income flows in.

Quit and cry if you want to, if more miners quit the more mineral supply will drop and the prices will go up, meaning even more income for the rest of us :)

Where's the any key?

  tnhmb

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/20/07
Posts: 9

6/12/12 6:17:10 AM#42

would be nice to have new minerals :)

  Malcanis

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/17/09
Posts: 3198

"A very special kind of stupidity"

6/12/12 8:56:22 AM#43

Interesting to read Selene's blog of the CSM meeting. Some industry comments there.

http://seleenes-sandbox.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/csm-7-spring-summit-review-part-i.html 

 

Read part ii as well, it's good stuff

 

Give me liberty or give me lasers

  Kiljaedenas

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/29/11
Posts: 461

To err is human, but to really f*ck things up you need a computer.

6/12/12 3:29:44 PM#44
Originally posted by Malcanis

Interesting to read Selene's blog of the CSM meeting. Some industry comments there.

http://seleenes-sandbox.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/csm-7-spring-summit-review-part-i.html 

 

Read part ii as well, it's good stuff

 

Niiiiice link, definitely going to keep watch on that forum.

Where's the any key?

  Twistingfate

Novice Member

Joined: 10/21/10
Posts: 178

6/12/12 3:39:36 PM#45

I stand with the "Dont fix it if it aint broke" crowd to be honest. Mining may be boring for some but I personally enjoy that relaxing it is. Mine some roids, chit chat, read a book, watch a movie. its a really stress-free way to make some decent isk and relax. I think if they added some kind of minigame to mining it would honestly ruin that aspect of the game. For example if I want something thats really highly engaging I would go pvp or run missions etc.

 

My 2 cents

Best wishes

Saint

  Malcanis

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/17/09
Posts: 3198

"A very special kind of stupidity"

6/14/12 1:26:48 PM#46

Well how about that? CCP are reworking the mining ships and introducing a new ORE mining Frigate

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72890

Give me liberty or give me lasers

  Eluwien

Novice Member

Joined: 7/07/08
Posts: 166

6/15/12 8:01:50 AM#47

Using 5 hulk accounts, one orca and main as scout/support. One can scan down sites and everyone can haul. Income covers all the accounts with plexes with less than 10 hours a week mining. Dont have time to look at the color of the lazors, never lost a hulk in an op.

 

Oraganizing mining events, where ten to twenty people gather up, gear up and clear belts in ridicilous pace. One to two work as forward scout and scans more grav sites or locates belts with juicy ore amounts with scanner. Always need one or two tankig or killing NPC's and general protection. Typically the events also include aquiring/trading BP copies and materials found in other sites, so that the ones concentrating on invention and t2 production can do their part. Mining at million m^3 hour levels require logistics to be taken seriously, ore has to move, items need to be made, before any profit can be attained. While mining about everyone manages their PI planets, trade goods created and upkeep POS towers, jump bridges.

 

Mining alone with single barge is as boring as gathering profession in any other game. In EVE the fun multiplies even alone with bringin in more free alts, but it goes up exponentially if you are part of an organized crew. I dont see any other MMO's out there in which gathering would be more fun and demanding by brining in more alts to manage different aspects, or that would get so intense with a team concentrating on it.

 

If your gatherers meet hostile hunters, you better have enough hunters of your own to deal with them. You dont send weaponless people to warzone to collect flowers in RL either with hopes that they'll be ay-okay.


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  Findariel

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6/15/12 8:11:00 AM#48

Well mining has been broken since .. a long time.

It isn't just the most boring semi-AFK activity (passivilty?) in game, it's also a very low profit thing (compared to missioning and definitely compared to incursion running) and the easiest to write bot programs for, persistent rumours tell that in 0.0 most miners are bots. Some people even have 5 accounts to have a private mining fleet, which is one of the saddest things you pay for and  do in a game imo. Also, people generally hate miners and like to (suicide) gank them for fun. As a miner you're at the bottom of the food chain.

No idea why some people still do it and why it was ever put into the game in the first place.

  Wycliffe

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Joined: 8/24/08
Posts: 362

I am Death, the destroyer of worlds

6/16/12 9:59:10 PM#49
Originally posted by Kiljaedenas
Originally posted by Malcanis

Interesting to read Selene's blog of the CSM meeting. Some industry comments there.

http://seleenes-sandbox.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/csm-7-spring-summit-review-part-i.html 

 

Read part ii as well, it's good stuff

 

Niiiiice link, definitely going to keep watch on that forum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ8bt9hTvd0 Always think of that when someone mentions Selene now. SUAS claims its his favorite EvE parody.

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