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News & Features Discussion  » General: MMOFTW - The Best of E3 2012 Awards

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6/11/12 11:05:14 AM#21

Does that mean that MMORPG actually got to play Elder Scrolls while there? All of the other gaming sites I've seen only saw the fly through videos meant for press consumption.

If you didn't, well.. I'm not sure how it can be all that "impressive" since it sounds like GW2 in an Elder Scrolls IP to me.  Plus in the interview G4 did they seemed really dodgy about every question Morgan asked them... somehow I don't get a lot of trust from anyone on their team when I see them speak.  Maybe I'm reading too much into it.


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6/11/12 11:17:46 AM#22

It seens like a very shy E3 for me... At least on MMO ground. Maybe that´s why they picked these games. It should not have much to pick from... I still look for WoD as my holy grail of MMO...


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6/11/12 11:26:18 AM#23
Originally posted by BillMurphy
Originally posted by Lawlmonster

Personally, I'm not willing to place all of the blame on Atari. Sure, they were involved, but Cryptic was still developing these titles, and they were absolutely terrible.


As for ESO, I'm having trouble understanding how someone can relate the brand to the product that's being shown. The only variables they share are in name alone, so if people are getting excited by what the newest themepark garbage is referred to, color me depressed. Still, I understand your point and I think it's valid.

I understand your concern. I shared it. But I really do think it looks like an excellent MMO so far, and everyone there for MMORPG did as well. And we were all skeptics. 

I haven't watched the video yet (I normally won't) however with all due respect, you guys tend to be a bit too positive (D3 at 8.5, really? and let's not get started on SWG) so you aren't the best skeptics out there.

Maybe your right, I don't know much about either title right now, so we'll have to see how good a prophets you guys turn out to be.



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6/11/12 11:30:37 AM#24

Probably shouldn't hand out awards to games you didn't actually play. Just sayin'... Unless the award is for "Best Game We Didn't Actually Play". But that would be stupid, right?


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6/11/12 11:42:19 AM#25

You are mastering these segments Bill...great job!



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6/11/12 11:58:54 AM#26
Originally posted by DannyGlover

Probably shouldn't hand out awards to games you didn't actually play. Just sayin'... Unless the award is for "Best Game We Didn't Actually Play". But that would be stupid, right?

These "awards" are more for "Who Hyped their Game the Best"


Think of E3 as an Old Time Circus. All the different Sideshows, each with a Barker and some wild advertising banners, all trying to get you to come in and see the "bearded tattooed dwarf cyclops mermaid".

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6/11/12 12:03:09 PM#27

.__. im going to have to turn the graphics down on planetside 2


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6/11/12 12:05:07 PM#28
Originally posted by BillMurphy
Did you watch the show? Neverwinter won an award, mate. :)

Did you go to E3?  I heard it has gone from four rooms down to two rooms.  Worst E3 in years as far a content.  Plus, since some companies didn't come and they had too much floorspace with only two room, they gave deals  for biggger spaces for those who did attend.  Resulting in large but sparse demo spaces.

Also, much less opportunies to demo games based on the number of demo systems on the floor.


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6/11/12 12:26:47 PM#29

A lot of ums, ahs and stuttering.  I'm afraid this one needed a reshoot.



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6/11/12 1:15:16 PM#30

I got to do a 30 minute Neverwinter dungeon crawl as a "control" mage with a couple others from our team at the show.  It was a LOT of fun.  Personally looking forward to Neverwinter, ESO and PS2.

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6/11/12 1:38:32 PM#31

I'm looking forward to NWN.  Loved CoH/ CoV, not so much CO, and I didn't even give STO a shot. 


I still think you're being to lenient on ESO.  It may well be a great game, but that doesn't excuse them for making an ES mmo that's not like an ES game, and that doesn't mean a "skyrim online".  There is a world of difference between a "typical MMO" and an ES game.

There is no "proper way" to make an MMO, and that's the gist of what ZeniOnline is telling us for why they're making ESO the way they are.  You guys praised EVE online for not being a typical MMO, but you're giving ZeniOnline a pass for turning a great sandbox RPG into a typical MMO.  That makes no sense to me. :(


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6/11/12 1:54:51 PM#32

This video needs some background music. Then it would be great


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6/11/12 2:00:45 PM#33

Seems a show and prices for publisher and developers, really not for gamers.

And it's simple: Trion World (The Rift is one of wortest MMO ever), Cryptic Studios (City of WHAT?) and many, many crappers developers and publisher win a price or a nominee (innovative Pirates 101? OMG) (or Sqaure Enix: the big FFXIV failure? And someone remember Fantasy Earth?).

Well, the only one of the bouchet is Elder Scroll Online. should be a great game (public dungeons like DAoC, EQ and other golden age MMOs! Ayeppaaaaaaaa!). Orther titles are marketing, not games for gamers or games for a price. No other good MMOs @ E3? No prices, it's simple.


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6/11/12 2:31:06 PM#34
Originally posted by Admin

I got to do a 30 minute Neverwinter dungeon crawl as a "control" mage with a couple others from our team at the show.  It was a LOT of fun.  Personally looking forward to Neverwinter, ESO and PS2.

How is combat? Something more involved would be fantastic in another Dungeons and Dragons game. I have a lot of respect for Turbines DDO for trying something slightly different. I even enjoyed it.

What really set Turbines game apart though were the traps and platforming moments. If you ask me, not enough games have them. I remember at one point someone, another player, pulling a lever that caused the ice below me to break, causing me to fall into the water below.


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6/11/12 3:16:40 PM#35

Neverwinter is going to fail, STOP before you go herpia derpia troll.  Take into account the people who are making the game and publishing it.  That is not a track record of "for the player", its a track record of max profit minimum work. They hook you in with something cool then once you  dive all in you find out its shallow water.

 PS2 could go either way given Sonys track record but i am hoping for the best; over the years they have shown signs of moving forward unlike EA who thinks were all stupid little sheeps.


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6/11/12 3:55:21 PM#36

Would have assumed  Otherland for most innovative or at least nominated but owel


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6/11/12 4:18:34 PM#37

And Tera wasn't mentioned anywhere? Honestly, kind of suprised about that. Some of the games mentioned do deserve their awards, but Neverwinter just looks like a recycle to me. Defiance does take the cake for Most Innovative though.

Overall not bad choices in the awards, just a little suprosed Tera wasn't in there.


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6/11/12 4:28:04 PM#38

~ Edit ~


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6/11/12 4:34:37 PM#39

Planetside 2 will probably be an awesome game, but SOE will nickel and dime the fun out of it.  It wouldn't suprise me if you had to pay real money just to get certain skills to pilot certain the subscription...sounds like something SOE would do.


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6/11/12 4:39:21 PM#40

You should just say some of  the best games instead of trying to pawn off some of them as MMO's

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