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  Domenicus

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Posts: 302

6/11/12 7:16:18 AM#201

I played D2... Until I perceived that the game was only smash button on everything... I started to play it with closed eyes... Then I realized that I could have a fair amount of success playing it blindly and clicking the mouse button madly... All that worked for no more than 5 minutes. I never came back to Diablo...

 

Call me hater if you wish, but  Blizzard is a company who makes money only making some genres dumber and polished for the masses.... Diablo is a dumb down version of RPG of old... is simple, polished and dumb as hell... Warcraft (the RTS, in fact, bringed up by Warcraft popularity) is a dumb down of strategy games like Civilization, Master of Magic, and WoW is a dumb down of games like Ultima Online and SWG... I am sorry for all Blizzard lovers, but this company have hurt badly all kind of games I enjoy.... Please, please, Blizzard, stay away from Elder Scrolls, never EVER try to make a free roaming game!!! I do love Elder Scrolls, GTA... Let at least this genre for people like me!!!

  insanelima

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6/11/12 11:38:48 AM#202

Stopped reading  when i saw this : " I made it a bit above 30 for our review"


 


Not enough to write a review


 


You have no idea about itemization, difficulty past normal (you shouldnt just write a review based on other peoples opinions), half the skills and possibilites of at least ONE character...


 


 


Go play more so that you can face at least half the flaws and bugs that this game has.


Then you can write something meaningful and accurate


 


  Scot

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Posts: 5233

6/12/12 6:25:03 AM#203

Longevity 9.5 out of 10?

When every person I know who has played this says it is going to be short a game? Besides how do you give a game a longevity rating when its only been out a few weeks? And you only made it to 30? Guesstimate, and in this case appallingly wrong.

  MartianDeus

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6/12/12 10:32:05 AM#204

Good review.  You're right on the "easy" thing about normal.  Kind of wish they gave an option asking "are you familiar with games like Diablo?" before starting on Normal, and giving a slightly increased difficulty based  on that for Normal mode.  I have friends who quit already b/c they were too bored to get through Normal.


  DaduHulk

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Joined: 12/12/07
Posts: 29

6/12/12 2:27:52 PM#205

Disagree with the review. The game is basically a re-hash of D2. Actually, I was playing D2 the other day (single player and had no connection, so...) and it turns out the ONLY thing I was missing was the gold auto-pickup. Try it, you will see.


 


Only 1.8% has gone past L30. Why? Because by then you finished the normal game. And now, you have to re-do the whole story with just more/harder of the same monsters? Boring... I only did it for a while trying to upgrade my gem/armorer guys, and even that got boring. I am trying other classes to see if it gets any better/fun, so far doing a wizard its weird enough to keep me playing, but otherwise... humm.


 


Longevity. Well, maybe, if this is the only choice, and as stated, for Diablo fans, well, there isn't anything else to do.  Who knows, maybe I have outgrown this kind of game. Loot used to be the prize, now, AH takes care of it. I try to not use it, but basically has devalued everything you do.


 


I would rather solo GW (yes, the original and expansions) than redo D3 again.


 


  DAOWAce

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Joined: 10/12/03
Posts: 113

I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter.

6/12/12 3:04:19 PM#206

I will never consider a $60 game 'value', especially not one very similar to other games like the free Path of Exile (which is more Diablo-like than D3 which is why I nicknamed it Diablo 2.5), and the $20 Torchlight 2.

Why the reviewer rated it 10/10 for value is beyond me.  What's PoE and T2 going to be? 11/10?  T2 will be moddable FFS.

That is my one major gripe with this review.

 

I'd comment on the game, but others have bashed it enough already and I'd only do so further.  I knew when it was announced it wouldn't be a true Diablo game because Blizzard North left.  Years later, I'm correct, which is very sad.  But oh well, I have PoE to play, which is basically what I wanted in the first place.

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  Ishkal

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Joined: 7/14/10
Posts: 44

6/12/12 7:03:29 PM#207

Meh I give the game a 3 normal nightmare an hell laughably easy. Inferno just as easy just gear based no skillz required NEXT!


  lifesbrink

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Joined: 1/22/09
Posts: 554

There are 2 kinds of people in the world: those who don't like dragons and those who enjoy living.

6/12/12 7:50:02 PM#208
Originally posted by Zekiah

Some comments on the main forums about the poor itemization in D3:

  • "I introduced a new friend to D3 who hadn't played Diablo before. After a few days he said to me, "Items have no substance, they are just pictures with stats on them". Theres nothing special about shoulders vs belts vs boots vs chest etc. They are just stat panels. They add nothing to the game."
  • "This game has not longevity as long as the items suck. On a game built on the idea of trading fun items, this game fails."
  • I mean honestly, items are the whole point of D3's monetization, charging us not just $60 for the game and $40-60 for each of 2 expansion packs and maybe DLC and microtransactions along the way, but expecting us to shell out $$$ for items in game- yet what are the items even adding to the game right now? They're just raw meaningless statistics. This game could exist without items at all and probably be more fun to play. Which isn't a good thing.
  • simply adding more zeros to things is lazy game design.
  • Game just feels like it was just Changed so it'd be more familiar to the 'current' blizzard crowd (WoW Players mostly), and not Diablo 2 Fans. 

    They Essentially made World of Diablocraft. This is not an Insult to WoW Players, Its just a simple truth, the game was suppose to appeal to you more than anyone else. Art style shows it too. There's a video out there on youtube that explains it very well. 

    Weapons really do just boil down to "Which has the best DPS"... Its been said before, But in Diablo II, weapons and armor all have uses that can transcend their level, In this game items will always be replaced by something 1-2 levels higher. Its MMO mechanics. 

    Frankly, Whoever took the design this way was dumb. If i wanted to play an MMO, I'd play an MMO. Diablo III should have built and improved on Diablo II's gameplay and itemization. It was a good system, could still be improved, But good. I mean, how arrogant does one have to be to think they can improve on a system that has almost legendary addiction status, even over a decade later.
  • You know, I hadn't even given any real thought to that, but you're spot on, completely right. Diablo 3's elemental damages are totally meaningless. Maybe cold slows, but otherwise theres no difference between them. All the rare weapons just wind up being 1 random elemental damage and 4 affixes or whatever, but which elemental damage is irrelevant, whereas in Diablo 2 there was a huge subtheme to each to make them specific and identifiable- like you say, lightning had a big damage range, cold slowed, poison was DoT, magic was rare and pierced everything, etc

    And heck, even in D2, it was an underdeveloped part of the game. The differences between elements were mostly statistical- lightning coming in 1-99, but no reason it couldn't be +50 damage straight up. What was different between Fire, Lightning & Magic damages? (Poison & Cold had their own things of course) If I were going back and designing the game from the ground up, I'd give each elemental damage its own mechanic- something that Runic is doing in Torchlight 2 I know (Fire damage sets enemies on fire, for example)

    I'd say something like- Fire deals AoE damage, Cold slows, Poison deals DoT, Lightning deals highly variable damage that can pulse to hit with aftershocks
  • No, this is no nostalgia, items in D3 feel irrelevant in any but numerical terms. Might as well have no equippable items and just 14 charm slots, wouldnt make any difference.
  • Patch 1.0.3 will not address a single issue listed here
    Nor will the future patch where legendaries are made "stronger"

    Nobody cares how "strong" the items are in the game, thats purely relative to the other numbers in the game. They could be +50 damage or +50,000 damage, it wouldn't matter if the enemies were 50 hp and 50,000 hp. What matters is that this game blows hard on a fundamental level, with incredibly flawed design that can not be easily fixed
  • Items today are just numbers.

    I hope they notice this, it's the first time I play a diablo game that makes me concern about "how these numbers will raise my dps or my defense capabilities".

    I wanted to get an item which shoots grenades randomly while casting spells, or summons a floating orb like that of wizards, and stuff.
  • The D3 crew really doesn't have an excuse for why this game is lacking such basic features. Even a 12 year old should know better than to create unique items with affixes like "+372-573 cold damage, +27% enhanced damage, +0.3% chance to stun for 0.00347 seconds"
  • I've been playing d2 on and off for years, and never once got tired of remaking expired characters on closed bnet. It was completely due to those mechanical features mentioned in the very memorable unique items, and how they affected my gameplay.

    It's all now a grind to get a higher number in *only* dps, vit, armor, and resist all. And the grind is mainly for getting gold to get those numbers raised from AH -_-.

    Was holding judgement until I reached end game, and now that I'm here, can say I'm disappointed in the variety and significance of individual pieces of gear and will wait for some improvement to this part of the game before I'm willing to jump back in. 

    but in the meantime, I'm feeling buyer's remorse -_-

This sums up my feelings.

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  lifesbrink

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Joined: 1/22/09
Posts: 554

There are 2 kinds of people in the world: those who don't like dragons and those who enjoy living.

6/12/12 8:10:42 PM#209
Originally posted by Vannor

Has nobody even bothered the read the official 1.0.3 patch preview?

The item finding problem will be sorted for endgame along with plenty other changes. What's the point in complaining about it when blizzard have already said they are going to change it?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/blog/5055288/Patch_103_Design_Preview-06_06_2012#blog

The game easily deserves this score, especially once that patch lands. Many people, like myself, have put over 200 hours into the game and arn't even a little bit bored with it. I'd go 9.0 if there was some kind of randomized free roam maps added to the endgame... hopefully in the future.

Ha, I have heard this one before.  "No way man, this patch will solve everything!"

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  robert154e

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Joined: 3/04/04
Posts: 22

6/13/12 3:50:04 AM#210

Why has no one mention the constant 300 - 2200 latency, the Item Duping the Gold Duping... The complete failure of the South Korean (Asia) servers... 800 Billion in duped gold and items causing a massive shut down of the Asia server and flooding of the American servers causing latency to a constant 1000+ for almost 2 days. And this was just in the past few days. It has been out almost a month and it still has server stability issues. Just on 6/11/2012 a ton of hardcore characters met their end due to server-side issues (massive lag for everyone online). This game starts out as fun, but the inability to travel back and re-do bosses like in Diablo 2's waypoint system, currently makes D3's waypoints utterly useless. To re-do a boss you have to leave a game, change quest, start that quest over, re-find waypoints, and then kill the boss. Rinse and Repeat. Yep great fun.




ROFLMAO




/end rant







For those mentioning Torchlight 2 looking better, it is because some of the developers of Diablo 1, Diablo 2, and Diablo 2: LoD and Torchlight 1 are Working on Torchlight 2. ^_^




 

  Smokeysong

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Joined: 9/11/03
Posts: 232

6/13/12 10:02:03 AM#211

Originally posted by atuerstar

Diablo III burst on the scene a few weeks ago to instantly become the best-selling computer game in history ....




 




Really?










 




Lie to me in your opening quote and ill assume everything you have to say from then on is to reinforce the validity of your lie.




 





 




Quoting sites that even tell you that sales in the first week are lower than what D3's were proves that you need to learn how to read.


Will D3 ever reach 16 million sold? Consideriong the price of games like this drop down to something like $10 typically, I'd say it might, but right now you take the 6.3 million copies sold and add to that the 1.5 million copies that people got with the WoW deal, and you have 7.8 million in the first week.


Have played: Everquest, Asheron's Call, Horizons, Everquest2, World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online, Warhammer, Age of Conan, Darkfall

  zeropride

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6/13/12 11:11:10 PM#212



Originally posted by RebelScum99



I know it's cool for the MMO hipsters to hate on Blizzard.  But facts are facts:  This is a very, very good game.  Score is appropriate.  




 







 




 i can see this if  D3 is  your first arpg or just a flat out blizzard fanboy but bad game is bad. for any ARPG fan D3s flaws are painful and obvious.




Titan Quest, which came out 6 years ago, is better in just about every way and was made on a smaller budget. Thats absurd. Hell Grim Dawn will probably surpass that which is being made on a even smaller budget! Games made from "blood sweat and tears" are the best.




Bottom line, Blizzard made tons of money off WoW and now none of their games feel like any hard work was put into it.




Blizzard caters to everyone therefore they cater to no one. This is also why their games are crap.



anyway get your refunds while you can folks!

  Yizle

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6/13/12 11:46:37 PM#213

How much did Blizzard pay you for this review? Just curious.

 

Also this review is from a person who admits to not liking the previous 2 games why can they not find a writer who liked the first 2 to write about the 3rd?

  qombi

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6/15/12 5:14:49 PM#214

I think people are nuts to pay to "rent" a single player game for that price. You never own it, the game isn't even playable without the internet. Shame to all who support this scam.


 


  Rawiz

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6/15/12 7:30:21 PM#215

The game is alright only if you play hardcore. Otherwise it's just as pointless as Diablo 2.

What's the point of farming gear for your softcore toon after beating Diablo on Inferno? Seriously I'd like some softie give an answer to this. You've beaten the game, you can die as many times as you want, you have no purpose and yet some people still play Diablo on softcore. I always wondered about this in Diablo 2 as well. I know for a fact being casual isn't the reason, because several people played softcore as much as the top dogs did hardcore.

Playing this game hardcore makes it a lot more enjoyable. As a plus there's no RMAH there either (at least so far). Once you play hardcore you never go back to being a spineless coward with ridicilous dps gear and obnoxious one-hit-wonder spec, you actually get better in the game and care about your toon.

Still, it's much worse than Diablo 2 of its time was, there's way too many compromises and dumbing down. I'd like to see what the sales would be like if Diablo 3 was mostly just a remade version of Diablo 2.

  qombi

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6/17/12 11:52:56 PM#216
Originally posted by Rawiz

The game is alright only if you play hardcore. Otherwise it's just as pointless as Diablo 2.

What's the point of farming gear for your softcore toon after beating Diablo on Inferno? Seriously I'd like some softie give an answer to this. You've beaten the game, you can die as many times as you want, you have no purpose and yet some people still play Diablo on softcore. I always wondered about this in Diablo 2 as well. I know for a fact being casual isn't the reason, because several people played softcore as much as the top dogs did hardcore.

Playing this game hardcore makes it a lot more enjoyable. As a plus there's no RMAH there either (at least so far). Once you play hardcore you never go back to being a spineless coward with ridicilous dps gear and obnoxious one-hit-wonder spec, you actually get better in the game and care about your toon.

Still, it's much worse than Diablo 2 of its time was, there's way too many compromises and dumbing down. I'd like to see what the sales would be like if Diablo 3 was mostly just a remade version of Diablo 2.

Let's face it, Diablo 3 would have sold if it was an empty box with Diablo 3 painted across the front. The name sold it alone.

  Illyssia

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6/18/12 4:16:45 AM#217
Originally posted by Zekiah
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The more I played the lower my score for D3 got and the less I liked the game. Pretty much everyone liked the game early on but the more you play the more you realize it's a shallow game that was poorly crafted. The loot tables are a joke. How can a company like Blizzard have this much time and a whole crapload of cash and design a game this watered down? I mean, they left out certain gems, prefixes, suffixes, runes, charms... the list is endless. The number of sets and *cough* "legendaries" alone is pathetic.

Garbage, game is garbage.

 

The story is very linear and not really in any great depth. So basically what you are getting is a hack and slash dungeon crawler with pretty graphics that you play through on one or two of the difficulty modes and then forget about the game. I think, Bill, we are really talking 7.5 out of 10. Game isn't an mmo and the RPG depth just isn't there.  Though I did have a fun few hours playing through the game.

 

 

  berlight

Novice Member

Joined: 9/14/10
Posts: 163

6/22/12 3:07:50 AM#218

Ahhh this review talks so good about the game that i asked for a full refund to blizzard and they gave me thank you for made me realize the mistake it was buying the game :)

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Refunded Items
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Customer Name: xxxxxxxxxxxx
Order #: xxxxxxxx

Line Item[s] Refunded:
(1) Diablo® III

Total Amount Refunded: £44.99 GBP

Beta tester maniac

  Bentusi

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Joined: 6/26/12
Posts: 8

6/26/12 10:20:23 AM#219

A good review, except for the rating it got for replayability and social value. I managed to get two characters to level 60 and one HC character to 54, so a total of 10 and a half playthroughs. By this time I was utterly sick and tired of the maps, most of the dungeons, predictable trash mobs and no gear dropping.


And despite the online requirement the game is a solitary experience. The only "community" there is is the impersonality of its e-bay simulator.


These two areas should give the lowest scores I think.


  Stoprunning

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Joined: 3/26/12
Posts: 6

7/18/12 1:37:48 PM#220

Game was fun for a couple of weeks. 


 


Basically, you need to purchase gear from the auction house to play, as the drops are crap. 


 


The mechanics of their "champion packs" are potentially the worst in any game I've played. You literally fight them the same way, and that's kiting. If you don't have expensive gear, you'll die in seconds. Most people just log out to reset the quest to get a different pack. Inferno is not fun, and you are forced to farm for gear to purchase from their AH, because you will not get gear to drop for your class. And when you find "Legendary" items your excitement is gone when you see there are a hundred of the same ones, with better stats, on the AH.


It would be worth it if the game was $15-20 but it's a huge waste of money. Avoid at all cost.


Also, if you play WOW, I would be terrified of what Blizzard could do with a WOW 2. They completely ruined Diablo with this release. 


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