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  leojreimroc

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OP  6/08/12 7:10:50 PM#1

I've never heard of an MMO releasing an expansion which did not include endgame content.  It's been a bit unclear up to now, but an instance cluster will be released at a later not, but here's the kicker, not for free.  Those that payed $40-70 for the expansion will have to pay again for instances.

For those that don't know, their previous expansion, Rise of Isengard, was also released without an instance cluster, but, it was released a few months after and free for those that purchased.

I know this is a f2p game now, but, when paying $40 (minimum) for an expansion, shouldn't we expect some instances to be released with it?

 

There's a discussion here on the official forums.  Apparently, the above wasn't made clear and many people bought the expansion thinking there would be instances included.  Furthermore, 1 of the Turbine FAQ said that instances would be included, but has since been corrected....

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?462820-RoR-pre-order-FAQ-ommision-Please-explain

  Typosos

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6/09/12 6:01:07 AM#2

instances and raid will be realese after expack realese , and they dont have to pay them , like in Rise of Isengard , we didnt pay for the update 5 instances and raid cuz wwe had paid for the expack

  Moodsor

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6/09/12 6:30:48 AM#3
Originally posted by leojreimroc

I've never heard of an MMO releasing an expansion which did not include endgame content.  It's been a bit unclear up to now, but an instance cluster will be released at a later not, but here's the kicker, not for free.  Those that payed $40-70 for the expansion will have to pay again for instances.

For those that don't know, their previous expansion, Rise of Isengard, was also released without an instance cluster, but, it was released a few months after and free for those that purchased.

I know this is a f2p game now, but, when paying $40 (minimum) for an expansion, shouldn't we expect some instances to be released with it?

 

There's a discussion here on the official forums.  Apparently, the above wasn't made clear and many people bought the expansion thinking there would be instances included.  Furthermore, 1 of the Turbine FAQ said that instances would be included, but has since been corrected....

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?462820-RoR-pre-order-FAQ-ommision-Please-explain

Unfortunately this has become business as usual for Turbine, I do not understand why a company doesn't make sure their expansions are feature complete before releasing them.

Its been less than a year since Isengard, so taken another month or 2 wouldn't hurt.

  JeroKane

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6/09/12 6:35:46 AM#4
Originally posted by Typosos

instances and raid will be realese after expack realese , and they dont have to pay them , like in Rise of Isengard , we didnt pay for the update 5 instances and raid cuz wwe had paid for the expack

You should check the official forums again. They removed it from the pre-order FAQ!

You now have to pay seperately for the Insance cluster on top of your expansion purchase.

It isn't even sertain that VIP players will get it for free, as they came with a vague statement that pricing has not yet been set.

In other words....VIP players are gonna pay too now!

  leojreimroc

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OP  6/09/12 1:14:39 PM#5
Originally posted by Typosos

instances and raid will be realese after expack realese , and they dont have to pay them , like in Rise of Isengard , we didnt pay for the update 5 instances and raid cuz wwe had paid for the expack

This is not accurate.  The instance cluster is NOT included with the expansion purchase.  Here is the dev quote:

 

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?462820-RoR-pre-order-FAQ-ommision-Please-explain&p=6219804#post6219804

 

Originally posted by Velera

Unfortunately this has become business as usual for Turbine, I do not understand why a company doesn't make sure their expansions are feature complete before releasing them.

Its been less than a year since Isengard, so taken another month or 2 wouldn't hurt.

I think it's more of a money issue.  They'll be able to squeeze more money out of players by making them pay full price for an expansion with no instance, then make them pay again for instances.

  kostoslav

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Joined: 5/27/09
Posts: 467

6/09/12 2:19:42 PM#6

with preordering RoI we did receive instances when they came out in december, this is not the case with RoR? We will not get the instances? Is this true?

  Rednecksith

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Joined: 6/12/09
Posts: 1272

Bite my fiery metal ass!

6/09/12 2:26:20 PM#7
Originally posted by kostoslav

with preordering RoI we did receive instances when they came out in december, this is not the case with RoR? We will not get the instances? Is this true?

According to Turbine (and the links above) you will NOT receive access to the instances for purchasing RoR. You will have to pay for them separately.

Glad I wiped my hands clean of Turbine quite some time ago. Such a shame.

  leojreimroc

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OP  6/09/12 2:37:08 PM#8
Originally posted by kostoslav

with preordering RoI we did receive instances when they came out in december, this is not the case with RoR? We will not get the instances? Is this true?

As the poster above me stated, you will not receive the instance cluster with the cash purchase of the expansion.  Check out the link above.

  Typosos

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6/09/12 2:38:46 PM#9
Originally posted by Rednecksith
Originally posted by kostoslav

with preordering RoI we did receive instances when they came out in december, this is not the case with RoR? We will not get the instances? Is this true?

According to Turbine (and the links above) you will NOT receive access to the instances for purchasing RoR. You will have to pay for them separately.

Glad I wiped my hands clean of Turbine quite some time ago. Such a shame.

if you read what GM say , you will see that he say , we are talking about it ...they didnt say u will not receave anything

  kostoslav

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6/09/12 2:38:48 PM#10
Originally posted by Rednecksith
Originally posted by kostoslav

with preordering RoI we did receive instances when they came out in december, this is not the case with RoR? We will not get the instances? Is this true?

According to Turbine (and the links above) you will NOT receive access to the instances for purchasing RoR. You will have to pay for them separately.

Glad I wiped my hands clean of Turbine quite some time ago. Such a shame.

thank you.

Ppl flame Blizzard here on the forums, but Turbine is a far worse company. This is something even EA would not do. This is insane: 40 to 70$ for a quest pack. Realy? I am so dissapointed...Wtf are they thinking...

 

  leojreimroc

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OP  6/09/12 3:39:45 PM#11
Originally posted by Typosos
Originally posted by Rednecksith
Originally posted by kostoslav

with preordering RoI we did receive instances when they came out in december, this is not the case with RoR? We will not get the instances? Is this true?

According to Turbine (and the links above) you will NOT receive access to the instances for purchasing RoR. You will have to pay for them separately.

Glad I wiped my hands clean of Turbine quite some time ago. Such a shame.

if you read what GM say , you will see that he say , we are talking about it ...they didnt say u will not receave anything

Apparently you haven't read the post carefully,  Here it is:

 

"There are no plans to release an instance cluster simultaneously with the expansion. However, an instance cluster is planned for release in a following update."

We will be releasing an instance cluster after the update comes out. However, we have not discussed the pricing of the cluster at this time. The mention of the cluster being free to players who have purchased Rohan was incorrect, and that's what we have removed. There is no instance cluster coming out simultaneously with the expansion.

We will be discussing the pricing of the instance cluster at a later time. "

 

The portion that's underlined is as clear as daylight.  I'm not sure how you can read it otherwise.  Either it is not included, or that dev is one of the most unclear speakers that I have read in a while.

  Params7

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6/10/12 11:42:03 AM#12

lol im glad i stopped playing this game. They somehow managed to make it more expensive after F2P than it was before.

  Purutzil

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Posts: 2839

The Critical Hit Pretzel!

6/10/12 11:46:40 AM#13
Originally posted by kostoslav
Originally posted by Rednecksith
Originally posted by kostoslav

with preordering RoI we did receive instances when they came out in december, this is not the case with RoR? We will not get the instances? Is this true?

According to Turbine (and the links above) you will NOT receive access to the instances for purchasing RoR. You will have to pay for them separately.

Glad I wiped my hands clean of Turbine quite some time ago. Such a shame.

thank you.

Ppl flame Blizzard here on the forums, but Turbine is a far worse company. This is something even EA would not do. This is insane: 40 to 70$ for a quest pack. Realy? I am so dissapointed...Wtf are they thinking...

 

You sure about EA? Didn't see their press conference at E3? Pretty much "DLC Milk your money" about a couple dozen times to nickle and dime every cent out. 

 

Anyways, this does sound like turbine starting to get greedy. Its not good for the game... but I'm sure they will notice when they suddenly find players in decline because of their greedy practices.

  Torvaldr

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6/10/12 11:53:38 AM#14

This thread makes me laugh.  There are better games to play for less money.  Hell, even SoE offers a better deal with EQ2 and that cluster of a F2P model.  Turbine is incompetent and deceptive, stop playing their game.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  kevjards

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6/10/12 11:54:35 AM#15

i think now we are seeing first hand of what is planned..to rip off anyone that likes the game..i will not pay for rohan,screw that.no dungeons and then having to pay for them later,they can go fuck themselves.5 yrs been playing this game..no morre money off me ever again turbine..and that includes any future games.

  Not_Khaeros

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6/10/12 11:58:17 AM#16

This is just the next step for Turbine, considering what they are trying with DDO.  Of course, they know that LotRO has more players and can therefore up the prices considerably - plus it's more costly of a game to run.

 

For those of you who play LotRO but not DDO, take your current gain of TP through gameplay and cut it to 1/10, and you have DDO's rate of earning passive TP.  Because LotRO is easier to earn TP in, you're going to start to see these things as they notice that free players are getting way too much.

  Stizzled

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6/10/12 11:59:21 AM#17
Originally posted by Purutzil

You sure about EA? Didn't see their press conference at E3? Pretty much "DLC Milk your money" about a couple dozen times to nickle and dime every cent out. 

 

Anyways, this does sound like turbine starting to get greedy. Its not good for the game... but I'm sure they will notice when they suddenly find players in decline because of their greedy practices.

Turbine has been greedy since the day that F2P was released. I knew they were going to go down a horrible path the moment they made previous players repay for content. We had already bought our licence to the SoA content but if we stopped our sub we had to pay for all of it again, if we wanted to keep playing. Such bullshit considering that you kept access to all of the MoM content.

 

But, we were flamed back then. Told that it didn't matter, we were just being a bunch of whiney, entitled gamers. Honestly puts a smile on my face to see Turbine screwing over everybody now. Maybe people will finally realize just how greedy Turbine has become. They aren't the company they used to be, and it's only gotten worse with WB behind them.

  Odysses

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6/10/12 12:06:26 PM#18

This sounds more like a WB influence.  If this is correct the best thing to do is to boycott this expansion.   WB will be forced to change their greedy pricing stratagey.

  zyklonian

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6/10/12 12:09:08 PM#19

im glad i quit this game a couple of months back.  99% of the people that play are terrible at gaming in general.  Draigoch is still buggy one year later.  the isengard raid is broken and full of exploits.  and when they tried to be like blizz and add an instance finder it was broken as well.  ppl paying 2x as much for subpar dev work.  pointless pay2win pvp.  and now they're going to add mounted combat when they cant even get a dragon raid with 3 mechancs fixed...... right

  erictlewis

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6/10/12 12:10:05 PM#20

I am glad I stopped playing lotro back when it when free to play.  The cash store being all over the place. I knew at that time Turbine had become greedy, now turbine stepped to an all new low.  I have to wonder why folks are still so blind, but I guess they play it due to it being lord of the rings.

Oh well nothing surprises me any more about turbine, well Warner brothers.  The love your wallet and that's all they love.

 

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