Diablo 3 is simply a bad game at its core. Yes it looks nice, but that's it, it has nothing else. 

This is how a good ARPG works - 

Hack'n'slash-->loot-->find gear-->improve-->progress

But instead, in Diablo 3 it is

Hack'n'slash/farm-->loot-->find gear you can't use-->sell it to vendor-->buy gear on auctionhouse

I know they will change some of this in the future, but the Ah is still there, and when real money AH is the only way Blizzard is going to have a steady currency stream, you can be sure it is not going to go anywhere.

In over 70 hours of playtime and reaching Inferno, I have not once found an item where I thought "YES!".....The highest I can hope for is "Hmmm I think this can sell on the AH"

5/10

I think the score is absolutely appropriate.

Originally posted by oddjob

Diablo 3 is simply a bad game at its core. Yes it looks nice, but that's it, it has nothing else. 

This is how a good ARPG works - 

Hack'n'slash-->loot-->find gear-->improve-->progress

But instead, in Diablo 3 it is

Hack'n'slash/farm-->loot-->find gear you can't use-->sell it to vendor-->buy gear on auctionhouse

I know they will change some of this in the future, but the Ah is still there, and when real money AH is the only way Blizzard is going to have a steady currency stream, you can be sure it is not going to go anywhere.

In over 70 hours of playtime and reaching Inferno, I have not once found an item where I thought "YES!".....The highest I can hope for is "Hmmm I think this can sell on the AH"

5/10

I keep forgetting the AH even exists . I think I'm just one of the few that got some great drops early on but now I'm stuck and not finding anything better. I'll have to take a look at the AH and see what everyone is talking about.

Sorry, but with PoE free, TL2 20 dollars and Titan's Quest 15 (?) dollars, value is NOT 10/10.

Originally posted by IrishChai

Originally posted by oddjob

Diablo 3 is simply a bad game at its core. Yes it looks nice, but that's it, it has nothing else. 

This is how a good ARPG works - 

Hack'n'slash-->loot-->find gear-->improve-->progress

But instead, in Diablo 3 it is

Hack'n'slash/farm-->loot-->find gear you can't use-->sell it to vendor-->buy gear on auctionhouse

I know they will change some of this in the future, but the Ah is still there, and when real money AH is the only way Blizzard is going to have a steady currency stream, you can be sure it is not going to go anywhere.

In over 70 hours of playtime and reaching Inferno, I have not once found an item where I thought "YES!".....The highest I can hope for is "Hmmm I think this can sell on the AH"

5/10

 

I keep forgetting the AH even exists . I think I'm just one of the few that got some great drops early on but now I'm stuck and not finding anything better. I'll have to take a look at the AH and see what everyone is talking about.

 

When you reach Inferno, or maybe even Hell, you can't progress without using the AH unless you are extremely lucky. And when you visit the AH for the first time, and buy that real sweet weapon with high DPS and just the right stats, and you kill mobs with ease....you will feel all the fun drain out of the game. 

Originally posted by Zinzan

Originally posted by atuerstar

Diablo III burst on the scene a few weeks ago to instantly become the best-selling computer game in history ....

 

Really?

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Lie to me in your opening quote and ill assume everything you have to say from then on is to reinforce the validity of your lie.

 

 

Right, because wikipedia is solid reliable information....not.

Also the number of copies sold is irrelevant, the statement, while probably not true, doesn't detract from the review, had they said "D3 is the best game ever made and heres why..." then fine, but they didn't.

Haters gonna hate.

 

Obviously you have never heard of citing sources on wikipedia which most things do when they want to prove something lol..

Also, in reality, the longevity of this game will be hindered by the same old grind that was present in D2. The difference with D2 was, it wasn't as old then. Seeing as there may be some that are new to the genre though, it will probably remain a mixed bag at best.

Social itself is pretty laughable to me just because of what they started to do since SC2, which is to detract from the use of chat rooms which made being able to play with whomever you encountered that much more interesting. Not sure what reasoning Blizzard had behind this, but to me, it was more like a smack in the face for removing a feature that once made their games many times greater in terms of popularity.

Originally posted by GamerUntouch

Sorry, but with PoE free, TL2 20 dollars and Titan's Quest 15 (?) dollars, value is NOT 10/10.

 

 Value is determined by worth as compared to price. I would probably also give those games highmarks for value simply because the price is so low. I think their quality when compared to D3 wouldn't measure up.  

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The more I played the lower my score for D3 got and the less I liked the game. Pretty much everyone liked the game early on but the more you play the more you realize it's a shallow game that was poorly crafted. The loot tables are a joke. How can a company like Blizzard have this much time and a whole crapload of cash and design a game this watered down? I mean, they left out certain gems, prefixes, suffixes, runes, charms... the list is endless. The number of sets and *cough* "legendaries" alone is pathetic.

Garbage, game is garbage.

Hmmm I like Diablo 3, but I find the scores given a little too high. I do not think D3 has as much replayability as the first two Diablos just from the point of view that due to the way the skills are set up, there is never any need to reroll the same class more than twice theoretically (once for softcore, once for hardcore if you even want to do that). In D2, I had multiple accounts because I had several different specs for the same class.

With the AH, there is very little need to keep doing runs to kit out your characters in the best gear, unless you are seriously opposed to using it. This also lowers the expected replayability.

Ok, so I did gamble a bit on playing the game at release, which meant I had a week of not being able to log in at all due to Error 37. I can overlook that if it basically never happens again. However, it was extremely annoying not to be able to get in and play and again leads back to the arguments against having online-only play.

I would seriously knock down the score though on the issues of security. I think that that, even more so than the connectivity issue, is the most important problem facing this game. I dread to think what will happen on this front once the RMAH is in place. Having Blizz security check case-sensitive passwords, and changing back to user-chosen logins rather than email logins would be steps in the right direction.

As such, even with the great aspects of D3, I would not score this game higher than a 7/10 and I think I am being generous.

Originally posted by Kaynos1972

Originally posted by Jimmydean

lol 10/10 value, 9/10 longevity.   

Lol !  Who did that review ?  someone who played the game to level 10 ?

Thats why I quit reading reviews from here. They gave EQ2's latest expansion good numbers and it was a joke.

My thought on the game, it does not stack up to Diablo II.   The loot system is the main problem IMO.  I like to play the game with what I find.  Never bought from the auction house, not that I could afford to anyways, but I find that other players are critical of my characters strengths as I almost always have inferior equipment.   The great thing about Diablo II, you there was elite equipment and items sets for every level.  The only place you find them in Diablo III is late hell or inferno.

Played with a wizard the other day in nightmare he was basically soloing while 3 others of us were in the game.  After inspecting him I noticed his damage was twice what mine was and I have 8 characters at nightmare level and never found anything close to what he had.  Take a wizard for example, he does not benefit from equiping wizard items like a wand, he just has to equip the highest dps item he can equip.

All in all, I give the game a 6 at best and I do not in any way think it has the long term viability that Diablo II had.

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by berlight

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The more I played the lower my score for D3 got and the less I liked the game. Pretty much everyone liked the game early on but the more you play the more you realize it's a shallow game that was poorly crafted. The loot tables are a joke. How can a company like Blizzard have this much time and a whole crapload of cash and design a game this watered down? I mean, they left out certain gems, prefixes, suffixes, runes, charms... the list is endless. The number of sets and *cough* "legendaries" alone is pathetic.

Garbage, game is garbage.

 

The rumors say that the reason Diablo 3 took so long to be made was because they were sorting out all the legal mumbo jumbo regarding the real money AH internationally. 

Unfortunately, this game sucks.  I lived to play the Diablo games for years and waited for this installment for what seemed like forever.  This latest addition to the Diablo family is nothing more than Blizzard's attempt at a cash grab on multiple levels (the future RMT AH being the most blatant).  FU Blizzard; it's the last time I purchase any game from you. 

Originally posted by oddjob

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by berlight

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The more I played the lower my score for D3 got and the less I liked the game. Pretty much everyone liked the game early on but the more you play the more you realize it's a shallow game that was poorly crafted. The loot tables are a joke. How can a company like Blizzard have this much time and a whole crapload of cash and design a game this watered down? I mean, they left out certain gems, prefixes, suffixes, runes, charms... the list is endless. The number of sets and *cough* "legendaries" alone is pathetic.

Garbage, game is garbage.

 

The rumors say that the reason Diablo 3 took so long to be made was because they were sorting out all the legal mumbo jumbo regarding the real money AH internationally. 

That sounds about right.

And this is exactly the kind of crappy product you get when you design a game around a money-making scheme.

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To be fair, the reviewer played the game till level 30 or so, and at that level it is still a fun game. What I find a bit absurd is rewieving a game based on playing maybe 10% of the content. 

Originally posted by ThaneUlfgar

I think the score is absolutely appropriate.

gameplay could be lower especially with the problems of many players not being able to connect and with the lack of randomizations compared to how D2 was. 

The longevity is a joke score because seriously most players will tell you that by the time you get to inferno doing the same exact line of quests it gets boring. Unless they add something soon, this score is ridiculously out of touch with the real game.

and value is also a joke as this game is definitely not the finest Blizz could come out with deserving a perfect score. It's like the reviewers were looking through rose colored glasses when they decided on the scoring. It's really sad they couldn't find good talent to keep this franchise going instead of putting hacks in charge. i had high hopes that what happened to WoW wouldn't happen to this series but it looks like this will be the VERY last time i buy and play blizzard anything ever again.

Longevity: 9.5/10

Value: 10/10

What a load of shit.

Originally posted by berlight

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Yes, yes. Of course. Every review should give bad scores to a game simply because it is a certain genre.... /facepalm

I know it's cool for the MMO hipsters to hate on Blizzard.  But facts are facts:  This is a very, very good game.  Score is appropriate.