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  DeaconX

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OP  6/06/12 6:17:00 PM#1

Kickstarter: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1675907842/pathfinder-online-technology-demo

If you haven't yet checked out this ambitious project where a team of MMO and tabletop vets are working to produce a sandbox MMORPG experience based on the pathfinder D&D ruleset where the players get to forge their world and really take control - both in game and out of game given how much they're focusing on player feedback.

If you've ever wished an MMO company would listen to your ideas and you're sick of the themepark experience, it might be worth a look :)


Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.

BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.

  MMOExposed

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6/06/12 6:18:42 PM#2

I dont understand how the site works. care to explain whats going on?

  BlackUhuru

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"When you are confused, you are learning something"

6/06/12 6:27:29 PM#3
Fight the good fight! Support innovation and change, become a Goblin Squad member and back this project!

Out with the AAA theme park trash and in with the innovative sandbox!

Fight for something or fall for nothing!

"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes

  DeaconX

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OP  6/06/12 6:32:46 PM#4
Originally posted by MMOExposed

I dont understand how the site works. care to explain whats going on?

Are you asking how kickstarter works?

Clicky: http://www.kickstarter.com/start?ref=home_start

There's even a video for anyone who doesn't like reading


Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.

BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.

  MMOExposed

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6/06/12 7:15:01 PM#5
Originally posted by DeaconX
Originally posted by MMOExposed

I dont understand how the site works. care to explain whats going on?

Are you asking how kickstarter works?

Clicky: http://www.kickstarter.com/start?ref=home_start

There's even a video for anyone who doesn't like reading

well you do say it has 2 days left. Does that mean it shuts down or something?

  DeaconX

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Stand up for what you believe; Even if you stand alone.
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OP  6/06/12 7:20:25 PM#6
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by DeaconX
Originally posted by MMOExposed

I dont understand how the site works. care to explain whats going on?

Are you asking how kickstarter works?

Clicky: http://www.kickstarter.com/start?ref=home_start

There's even a video for anyone who doesn't like reading

well you do say it has 2 days left. Does that mean it shuts down or something?

Yes - after about 46 hours now, you will no longer be able to support the project through Kickstarter.  They've already met their original goal and now they're hoping to reach 200K which is a decent sum to help them develop the technology required and possibly win over some big time investors - also, depending on how much you donate to the project, you recieve various levels of rewards which can also be seen on the site linked above.

But basically, it's a great opportunity for anyone who believes in what they're doing and wants to help make it happen.

In this case, they're trying to build the type of MMORPG that large came companies won't go near because historically, sandboxes have not been safe bets (though they also haven't been well built for the most part).

With the technology available today, I personally feel that incredible sandbox experiences CAN be built and that there's a large enough demand for it -- but so long as cookie cutter mmo's make bucks, that's what big studios will focus on.


Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.

BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.

  MMOExposed

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Posts: 5103

6/06/12 7:33:25 PM#7
Originally posted by DeaconX
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by DeaconX
Originally posted by MMOExposed

I dont understand how the site works. care to explain whats going on?

Are you asking how kickstarter works?

Clicky: http://www.kickstarter.com/start?ref=home_start

There's even a video for anyone who doesn't like reading

well you do say it has 2 days left. Does that mean it shuts down or something?

Yes - after about 46 hours now, you will no longer be able to support the project through Kickstarter.  They've already met their original goal and now they're hoping to reach 200K which is a decent sum to help them develop the technology required and possibly win over some big time investors - also, depending on how much you donate to the project, you recieve various levels of rewards which can also be seen on the site linked above.

But basically, it's a great opportunity for anyone who believes in what they're doing and wants to help make it happen.

In this case, they're trying to build the type of MMORPG that large came companies won't go near because historically, sandboxes have not been safe bets (though they also haven't been well built for the most part).

With the technology available today, I personally feel that incredible sandbox experiences CAN be built and that there's a large enough demand for it -- but so long as cookie cutter mmo's make bucks, that's what big studios will focus on.

are they using a inhouse engine, or non exclusive/ licensed Engine here?

  nariusseldon

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Posts: 11934

6/06/12 7:41:02 PM#8
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by DeaconX
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by DeaconX
Originally posted by MMOExposed

I dont understand how the site works. care to explain whats going on?

Are you asking how kickstarter works?

Clicky: http://www.kickstarter.com/start?ref=home_start

There's even a video for anyone who doesn't like reading

well you do say it has 2 days left. Does that mean it shuts down or something?

Yes - after about 46 hours now, you will no longer be able to support the project through Kickstarter.  They've already met their original goal and now they're hoping to reach 200K which is a decent sum to help them develop the technology required and possibly win over some big time investors - also, depending on how much you donate to the project, you recieve various levels of rewards which can also be seen on the site linked above.

But basically, it's a great opportunity for anyone who believes in what they're doing and wants to help make it happen.

In this case, they're trying to build the type of MMORPG that large came companies won't go near because historically, sandboxes have not been safe bets (though they also haven't been well built for the most part).

With the technology available today, I personally feel that incredible sandbox experiences CAN be built and that there's a large enough demand for it -- but so long as cookie cutter mmo's make bucks, that's what big studios will focus on.

are they using a inhouse engine, or non exclusive/ licensed Engine here?

200k for a chance to sell to investors?

I wouldn't throw money at a pipe dream. If they can make a MMO, make one and i will see if it is fun. I don't believe in people who have no solid financial backings to go into projects that needs millions.

  maplestone

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Joined: 12/10/08
Posts: 2310

6/06/12 8:31:32 PM#9

"Of course, those who simply wish to avoid any PvP at all will choose to remain within the very high security zones close to NPC settlements where PvP is effectively impossible. Such players will have fewer opportunities to find adventure or to earn treasure than their braver and less risk-averse peers, but they'll be safe from griefers."

When the developers are pre-griefing you, it hardly feels safe.

  Moaky07

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Joined: 2/24/07
Posts: 2199

MMO sandbox games are as exciting as watching paint dry.

6/06/12 8:36:46 PM#10
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by DeaconX
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by DeaconX
Originally posted by MMOExposed

I dont understand how the site works. care to explain whats going on?

Are you asking how kickstarter works?

Clicky: http://www.kickstarter.com/start?ref=home_start

There's even a video for anyone who doesn't like reading

well you do say it has 2 days left. Does that mean it shuts down or something?

Yes - after about 46 hours now, you will no longer be able to support the project through Kickstarter.  They've already met their original goal and now they're hoping to reach 200K which is a decent sum to help them develop the technology required and possibly win over some big time investors - also, depending on how much you donate to the project, you recieve various levels of rewards which can also be seen on the site linked above.

But basically, it's a great opportunity for anyone who believes in what they're doing and wants to help make it happen.

In this case, they're trying to build the type of MMORPG that large came companies won't go near because historically, sandboxes have not been safe bets (though they also haven't been well built for the most part).

With the technology available today, I personally feel that incredible sandbox experiences CAN be built and that there's a large enough demand for it -- but so long as cookie cutter mmo's make bucks, that's what big studios will focus on.

are they using a inhouse engine, or non exclusive/ licensed Engine here?

200k for a chance to sell to investors?

I wouldn't throw money at a pipe dream. If they can make a MMO, make one and i will see if it is fun. I don't believe in people who have no solid financial backings to go into projects that needs millions.

Down to the gun to raise 200k for a MMO sandbox, and yet we are to think those style of games are popular? Yeah OK.

 

I wish them the best reaching their goal, as it is good for folks to have whatever type game they want to play.  That said, the stories of MMO sandbox being wanted by many were a bit premature methinks.

Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.

  DeaconX

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Joined: 2/08/05
Posts: 2986

Stand up for what you believe; Even if you stand alone.
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SHH, my COMMON SENSE is tingling!

 
OP  6/06/12 8:59:14 PM#11
Originally posted by Moaky07
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by DeaconX
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by DeaconX
Originally posted by MMOExposed

I dont understand how the site works. care to explain whats going on?

Are you asking how kickstarter works?

Clicky: http://www.kickstarter.com/start?ref=home_start

There's even a video for anyone who doesn't like reading

well you do say it has 2 days left. Does that mean it shuts down or something?

Yes - after about 46 hours now, you will no longer be able to support the project through Kickstarter.  They've already met their original goal and now they're hoping to reach 200K which is a decent sum to help them develop the technology required and possibly win over some big time investors - also, depending on how much you donate to the project, you recieve various levels of rewards which can also be seen on the site linked above.

But basically, it's a great opportunity for anyone who believes in what they're doing and wants to help make it happen.

In this case, they're trying to build the type of MMORPG that large came companies won't go near because historically, sandboxes have not been safe bets (though they also haven't been well built for the most part).

With the technology available today, I personally feel that incredible sandbox experiences CAN be built and that there's a large enough demand for it -- but so long as cookie cutter mmo's make bucks, that's what big studios will focus on.

are they using a inhouse engine, or non exclusive/ licensed Engine here?

200k for a chance to sell to investors?

I wouldn't throw money at a pipe dream. If they can make a MMO, make one and i will see if it is fun. I don't believe in people who have no solid financial backings to go into projects that needs millions.

Down to the gun to raise 200k for a MMO sandbox, and yet we are to think those style of games are popular? Yeah OK.

 
$180,351

pledged of $50,000 goal


Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.

BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.

  BlackUhuru

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6/06/12 9:03:50 PM#12
20k away from an additional dungeon made by non other then the Forgotten Realms creator Ed Greenwood!!!!

Go go go go!!!

"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes

  DeaconX

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Stand up for what you believe; Even if you stand alone.
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SHH, my COMMON SENSE is tingling!

 
OP  6/06/12 9:13:30 PM#13

The $30 I put towards helping them was next to nothing for me but I'm glad fans showed support:

  • 361%/100% funded
  • $180,636 pledged
  • 44 hours to go


Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.

BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.

  DeaconX

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Joined: 2/08/05
Posts: 2986

Stand up for what you believe; Even if you stand alone.
-==X==-
SHH, my COMMON SENSE is tingling!

 
OP  6/07/12 8:18:41 AM#14
 
3,052

Backers

$192,278

pledged of $50,000 goal

33

hours to go

Looks like they're gonna make the 200K :)


Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.

BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.

  RebelScum99

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6/07/12 8:20:49 AM#15
Originally posted by BlackUhuru
Fight the good fight! Support innovation and change, become a Goblin Squad member and back this project!

Out with the AAA theme park trash and in with the innovative sandbox!

Fight for something or fall for nothing!

 

Yawn.

  wrekognize

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Joined: 7/30/07
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6/07/12 8:30:40 AM#16
Originally posted by RebelScum99
Originally posted by BlackUhuru
Fight the good fight! Support innovation and change, become a Goblin Squad member and back this project!

Out with the AAA theme park trash and in with the innovative sandbox!

Fight for something or fall for nothing!

 

Yawn.

 Cheers!

  MumboJumbo

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Posts: 2773

Veni, Vidi, Converti

6/07/12 8:39:39 AM#17

Pledge levels appear to be about 50-50 - rewards + funding. The rewards themselves are not a bad value either. Eg at the $15 level you will get about 100 pages pdf consisting of x4 Thornkeep dungeons + design notes on Pathfinder Online. That's reasonable deal and support the funding. Higher levels are more for either: Very vested interest in seeing PfO game (reg. dev updates) OR using materials/book in PF campaigns.

$15 level is very value. albeit it's $5 over my "Rule of max. $10 upfront funding". ;)

  User Deleted
6/07/12 8:41:28 AM#18

HAHAHAHA i love how they insult all those themeparks, but everything they describe about their games is the same.

"A fantasy sandbox with generic fantasy races and creatures based on older tabletop games where player actions impact the world and we tell the stories of the world". So, every single fantasy sandbox mmo there is. Extremely original.

EDIT: I love sandboxes, with politics, crafting, exploring, skill based, etc, etc, but this isn't what i call a unique sandbox.

  MumboJumbo

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6/07/12 8:58:42 AM#19
Originally posted by FredomSekerZ

HAHAHAHA i love how they insult all those themeparks, but everything they describe about their games is the same. -snip-

Here's the KS description summary:

 

Pathfinder Online is a hybrid sandbox/theme park-style MMO where characters explore, develop, find adventure and dominate a wilderness frontier in a land of sword and sorcery. The Pathfinder world is high fantasy in the tradition of epics like The Lord of the Rings, Conan, The Wheel of Time and Game of Thrones.

 
The Pathfinder setting includes many different classic and modern fantasy elements, from lost cities shrouded in misty jungles to decaying pyramids amidst deserts of burning sands to a fantastic island metropolis where folk from across the world live side by side with all manner of fantastic creatures. The Pathfinder world has a place for any story a player wants to tell. (For more information on the world of Pathfinder and the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, please visit http://paizo.com/pathfinder.)
 
Pathfinder Online’s robust trading system puts players in control of the world’s economy with player-created items, consumables, fortifications, and settlements. Character-controlled settlements can grow into full-fledged kingdoms that compete for resources as they seek to become the dominant force in the land, raising vast armies to hold their territory against the depredations of monstrous creatures, NPC factions, and other player characters.
 
Social organizations scale from small parties of a few adventurers to player nations inhabited by thousands. As settlements develop, the surrounding wilderness develops more complex and challenging features, including randomly generated encounters and resources as well as exciting scripted adventures.
 
 
We have heard it all before, many times true.  But some good reading at the blogs for the intention of the game worth a look also: https://goblinworks.com/blog/
 
Blogs:
  • A Journey of a Thousand Miles Begins with a Single Step
  • Introducing the Crusader Road
  • Your Pathfinder Online Character
  • To Live and Die in the River Kingdoms
  • Adventure in the River Kingdoms
  • LFG (Looking for Group)!
  • Player Created Buildings and Structures
  • Time is the Fire In Which We Burn
  • Money Changes Everything
  • Butchers, Bakers and Candlestick Makers
  • Where The Wild Things Are
  • The Blog About Kickstarter
  • Signed...In Blood
  • Designing Thornkeep
  DeaconX

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SHH, my COMMON SENSE is tingling!

 
OP  6/07/12 9:40:15 AM#20
Originally posted by MumboJumbo

Pathfinder Online is a hybrid sandbox/theme park-style MMO where characters explore, develop, find adventure and dominate a wilderness frontier in a land of sword and sorcery. The Pathfinder world is high fantasy in the tradition of epics like The Lord of the Rings, Conan, The Wheel of Time and Game of Thrones.

 
The Pathfinder setting includes many different classic and modern fantasy elements, from lost cities shrouded in misty jungles to decaying pyramids amidst deserts of burning sands to a fantastic island metropolis where folk from across the world live side by side with all manner of fantastic creatures. The Pathfinder world has a place for any story a player wants to tell. (For more information on the world of Pathfinder and the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, please visit http://paizo.com/pathfinder.)
 
Pathfinder Online’s robust trading system puts players in control of the world’s economy with player-created items, consumables, fortifications, and settlements. Character-controlled settlements can grow into full-fledged kingdoms that compete for resources as they seek to become the dominant force in the land, raising vast armies to hold their territory against the depredations of monstrous creatures, NPC factions, and other player characters.
 
Social organizations scale from small parties of a few adventurers to player nations inhabited by thousands. As settlements develop, the surrounding wilderness develops more complex and challenging features, including randomly generated encounters and resources as well as exciting scripted adventures.
 


This is EXACTLY the reason I decided to fund.  I've always believed the hybrid sandbox/themepark is the future of great MMORPGs.


Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.

BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.

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