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  miguksaram

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6/03/12 10:07:28 AM#41

There are numerous possible reasons but I suspect the most basic reason for any hack is the prime suspect.  Lots of lucrative targets.  It's the same reason most Malmare effectsWindows based systems more often than Apple or Linux.

  Latronus

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PC is not political correctness, it means Political Cowardice!

6/03/12 10:13:35 AM#42
I have played tons of MMOs since EQ and I find it funny how I've never had a single account in any game except my trial account in WoW hacked/compromised. I'm not saying Blizzard is behind it, but it's about time all you fanbois realize that if it isn't them doing the hacking (which I dont believe for a minute) then there is something within battle net that allows it. Either way, Blizzard is to blame, not the players.

  zevni78

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6/03/12 10:13:42 AM#43
Don’t attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.
 
A major reason I don't play Blizzard games is due to being hacked so many times, they need to work harder, for games this high profile the risks are higher.
 
 
 
 
 
P.S. Battle.net can kiss my pale flabby bottom.
  TheCrow2k

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6/03/12 10:15:36 AM#44
Originally posted by miguksaram

There are numerous possible reasons but I suspect the most basic reason for any hack is the prime suspect.  Lots of lucrative targets.  It's the same reason most Malmare effectsWindows based systems more often than Apple or Linux.

I wouldnt say "than apple" because right at the minute the iOS has a great big target painted on its back and under that are the words "Welcome". Apple PC's maybe cos thye have low market saturation but apple as a whole is struggling to stay ahead of trouble with iOS.

I suspect with the number of cases cropping up that blizzards system is at fault, could be Sony all over again only if Blizzard had had therir way with real ID the hackers would know pretty much everything they needed for ID theft as well.

  miguksaram

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6/03/12 10:22:07 AM#45
Originally posted by TheCrow2k
Originally posted by miguksaram

There are numerous possible reasons but I suspect the most basic reason for any hack is the prime suspect.  Lots of lucrative targets.  It's the same reason most Malmare effectsWindows based systems more often than Apple or Linux.

I wouldnt say "than apple" because right at the minute the iOS has a great big target painted on its back and under that are the words "Welcome". Apple PC's maybe cos thye have low market saturation but apple as a whole is struggling to stay ahead of trouble with iOS.

I suspect with the number of cases cropping up that blizzards system is at fault, could be Sony all over again only if Blizzard had had therir way with real ID the hackers would know pretty much everything they needed for ID theft as well.

In this instance "Apple" in my statement referred to their desktops specifically because they don't hold the market share in that department.  Nothing is "Hack-proof" is just a matter of time and effort.  Even if Blizzard had the best protection in place (I kinda doubt it though) given it's market share it would be hacked and accounts stolen because it's lucrative.

  Laughing-man

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I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

6/03/12 10:27:08 AM#46
Originally posted by hellsnot

maybe to promote their authenticator sherlock?

As they sell them AT COST, this theory is clearly not correct.

OTHER game companies charge more for the authenticator, if you do a little research the authenticator company that makes Blizz's makes everyones authenticators, and they sell them in bulk, at a discount.  So Blizz can sell them for the cheapest cus they buy up a large amount and resell them to their customers at cost.

Which has been stated multiple times, and if you really care to find out you could always go to the authenticator website and do some math yourself to figure it all out.

OR  you could continue to enjoy that tin foil hat.

  crazynanny

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Joined: 9/03/10
Posts: 170

6/03/12 10:52:30 AM#47

Remind me again how many men statistically watch porn? Because- "around 90 per cent of consumption was on the internet" due to article from telegraph.co.uk from 2009. But hell yeah my PC is clean 100% I used private browsing!

But in this days being able to blame Yourself is sadly rarity. And sadly part of good business practice is to nod to those sort of people and help, instead telling them to YKW(you know what). As result we have Blizzard hacking people to sell free apps on mobile phones.

What was the Enistain saying again - only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

Using FREE mobile authenticator for like 4 years. No issues. Using special dedicated e-mail for b-net. Not a single phishing mail or viagra spam. And still I'd most likely start from blaming myself if I ever got hacked...

  hellsnot

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Joined: 12/26/10
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6/03/12 10:52:51 AM#48
Really? Selling at cost? That is laughable and so is shipping and handling its mailed in a damn envelope us postal service
  hellsnot

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6/03/12 10:56:36 AM#49
And yet not one self righteous fanboi will even acknowledge I was compromised while servers were offline
  crazynanny

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6/03/12 10:57:55 AM#50
Originally posted by hellsnot
Really? Selling at cost? That is laughable and so is shipping and handling its mailed in a damn envelope us postal service

You can get them FREE just check here:

http://itunes.apple.com/app/battle.net-mobile-authenticator/id306862897?mt=8

http://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/13011/

 

and prolly more phones that I'm not bothered too look for.

  Latronus

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PC is not political correctness, it means Political Cowardice!

6/03/12 10:58:27 AM#51
Originally posted by hellsnot
And yet not one self righteous fanboi will even acknowledge I was compromised while servers were offline

 

Of course not. Did you actually expect them to?

  DrunkWolf

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Joined: 5/07/09
Posts: 810

6/03/12 11:00:25 AM#52

I had a email that i used for years that i didnt ever attach to a game. i allways made new emails for games that way each game would have a different email. after i attached this email to battle.net for my star craft game i started getting fishing emails saying my " wow acount " was being compromised click the link to fix it blah blah blah. i dont even have a wow acount but it showed me battlenet isnt secure at all.

  Laughing-man

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Joined: 4/23/09
Posts: 2660

I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

6/03/12 11:02:49 AM#53
Originally posted by hellsnot
Really? Selling at cost? That is laughable and so is shipping and handling its mailed in a damn envelope us postal service

So I'm guessing you didn't use google?

Here, I'll google for you, while I'm at it, I'll mention FFXI, who had authenticators FIRST, sold them for 11 dollars.... AT COST.

So...

Heres the link, this is the website that manufactures them.  Feel free to complain to them.

Since Blizzard doesn't MAKE them, and they sell them AT COST from ANOTHER company, are you going to change your story?

  hellsnot

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6/03/12 11:06:05 AM#54
Oh ya that's another thing as soon as I put my email into battle.net the spam started spam in the form of links via chat messages. From junk email address's
  crazynanny

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6/03/12 11:09:16 AM#55
Originally posted by Laughing-man
Since Blizzard doesn't MAKE them, and they sell them AT COST from ANOTHER company, are you going to change your story?

You mean will hater use logic and be reasonable? Never! Blizzard hacked him because he knows. And You are fanboi if You dare to use words like responsibility or nonsence. Eh wish world was so simple for me :)

  Laughing-man

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Joined: 4/23/09
Posts: 2660

I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

6/03/12 11:09:38 AM#56
Originally posted by miguksaram

There are numerous possible reasons but I suspect the most basic reason for any hack is the prime suspect.  Lots of lucrative targets.  It's the same reason most Malmare effectsWindows based systems more often than Apple or Linux.

This, a thousand times this.

If you are going to try to randomly phish someone, why would you try to phish for a less popular game, and thereby less likely for you to be successful.

They are targeting the largest audience, for obvious reasons.

  udon

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Posts: 829

6/03/12 11:10:23 AM#57
Originally posted by hellsnot
Really? Selling at cost? That is laughable and so is shipping and handling its mailed in a damn envelope us postal service

Have you ever looked at what these things cost?  I managed a RSA SecurID system for a company several years ago and we paid more than twice what the Blizzard charges for these things and we didn't get custom graphics on ours.  Granted we were buying them a thousand or so at a time but still.  Plus, that's not even counting the license costs for the backend hardware which is a pretty heafty yearly recuring expense for Blizzard I'm sure not to mention all the Web site/database intergration work and support requirements.  And don't forget that "free" app for smart phones isn't really free for Blizzard since they still have to pay a per user license fee for the tech.

I'm not a Blizzard fan and I'm not currently playing any Blizzard games but I do believe them when they say they sell those things at cost.  In fact I pretty sure Blizzard looses money on the whole system.  But then again they can aford to and it's good PR.

  User Deleted
6/03/12 11:11:48 AM#58

I had a blizzard authenticator on my iphone and I never got hacked with ANY blizzard game. So. Here's a thought. You could avoid all this by going to random ass websites on your smart phone that could potentially hack your authenticator on your phone (Yes it is doable) and also probably refrain from visiting websites that could install keyloggers on your computer that could potentially leading to your account getting hacked.

  expresso

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6/03/12 11:12:00 AM#59
Originally posted by hellsnot
And yet not one self righteous fanboi will even acknowledge I was compromised while servers were offline

proof?

  Laughing-man

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Joined: 4/23/09
Posts: 2660

I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

6/03/12 11:12:13 AM#60
Originally posted by udon
Originally posted by hellsnot
Really? Selling at cost? That is laughable and so is shipping and handling its mailed in a damn envelope us postal service

Have you ever looked at what these things cost?  I managed a RSA SecurID system for a company several years ago and we paid more than twice what the Blizzard charges for these things and we didn't get custom graphics on ours.  Granted we were buying them a thousand or so at a time but still.  Plus, that's not even counting the license costs for the backend hardware which is a pretty heafty yearly recuring expense for Blizzard I'm sure not to mention all the Web site/database intergration work and support requirements.  And don't forget that "free" app for smart phones isn't really free for Blizzard since they still have to pay a per user license fee to RSA for the tech.

I'm not a Blizzard fan and I'm not currently playing any Blizzard games but I do believe them when they say they sell those things at cost.  In fact I pretty suret Blizzard looses money on the whole system.

Yeah if you check out the company that manufactures these things they mention they offer bulk discounts, I remember WoW having run out of physical authenticators before, so I'd have to imagine they bought A LOT, and all of them sold.  I remember they used to be 6 dollars even, now they're 6.50, I bet Blizz just bought a huge lot of em, but not as many as the first time, I mean I doubt they expect as many to be needed as have already been used at this point.

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