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  Z3R01

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6/02/12 1:26:35 PM#1

That's right stop wasting money.

let us Host Skyrim Servers with a 50 player cap.

Drop everyone into the world, add perma death, pvp and survivability mechanics like needing to eat to survive ala New Vegas.

make the mobs harder.... yadda, yadda, yadda... seriously this MMO is going to fail look at all the negative press and player responses.

 

Who's with me? DayZ mod for Skyrim?

I would jump all over that.

 

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  Jellytoezz

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6/02/12 1:29:48 PM#2

Ignoring all the problems that COULD arise, that sounds brilliant.

  JeroKane

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6/02/12 1:34:34 PM#3

Sadly. The Elder Scrolls games don't provide Multiplayer functionality. :-(

  Nitth

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6/02/12 1:36:38 PM#4


Originally posted by JeroKane
Sadly. The Elder Scrolls games don't provide Multiplayer functionality. :-(

Skyrim online is kinda a joke, but its a start

Atleast they have the item syncing down now, pitty it suffers from horrible lag.


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  MMOExposed

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6/02/12 3:23:56 PM#5

gameplay wise, would would be interesting about a multiplayer Skyrim?

doesnt make sense....

 

Skyrim is Themepark RPG by design. So boring. Only thing interesting about Elder Scroll games on consoles has been the Open World feel to them. thats it.

 

the gameplay is a bore. Nothing about the gameplay is better or even close to that found in a standard themepark MMORPG.

 

sad but a reality. most of you that keep asking for a sandbox TES MMO, dont realize what you are asking for....

  MajorBiggs

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6/02/12 3:31:06 PM#6

Um....uh huh.

Arena, Daggerfall, and the gigantic Morrowind were huge leaps in the CRPG department in terms of open world gameplay. It was a solo thing, no party like in Might & Magic and Wizardry. I'm assuming you've played those games too AND thought they were boring?

How about Ultima Underworld? Arx Fatalis? The solo open-world first-person RPG WITH SKILL BASED GAMEPLAY are godsends to alot of RPG fans.

Boring? Sure thats your opinion. I think the games you like are fucking boring. My opinion.

  MajorBiggs

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6/02/12 3:42:44 PM#7

But back to the OP, i think i know what you mean...If DayZ added say some sort of skill-based improvement i.e. your aim improves a little after enough shooting exp, you dont have to eat as much after a while of play(that is if you SURVIVE).

No overall leveling, just small little attributes that improve. This could work for a huge mod or TC for Skyrim lol.

I love elder scrolls games (after oblivion it started to get a little more...accessible to people) but I have no hope for the MMO. They need to stop with this shit.

  MMOExposed

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6/02/12 3:42:54 PM#8
Originally posted by MajorBiggs

Um....uh huh.

Arena, Daggerfall, and the gigantic Morrowind were huge leaps in the CRPG department in terms of open world gameplay. It was a solo thing, no party like in Might & Magic and Wizardry. I'm assuming you've played those games too AND thought they were boring?

How about Ultima Underworld? Arx Fatalis? The solo open-world first-person RPG WITH SKILL BASED GAMEPLAY are godsends to alot of RPG fans.

Boring? Sure thats your opinion. I think the games you like are fucking boring. My opinion.

Skyrim MMO with large scale multiplayer wouldnt last longer than even APB... please!!! come back to reality... we miss you..

  INFWarpath

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6/02/12 3:59:41 PM#9

To MMOExposed-----You sit there and say "we" like everyone shares your opinion. Making stupid statements like this isn't helping you prove any points. Some people would like to see such a game, just because you aren't one of them doesn't mean that the concept alone wouldn't work. 

Of course adaptation would need to be made, but to sit there and scoff at the idea of such a game working is downright foolish. Have you studied the market? Are you in-tune with the target demographic? Are you a game dev? No, so don't sound so sure. 

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  PyrateLV

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6/02/12 4:01:42 PM#10

ARMAII had the advantage of having mutiplayer already built into the game so modding it for DayZ was much easier than trying to mod Skyrim for Multiplayer

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  INFWarpath

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6/02/12 4:04:59 PM#11
Originally posted by PyrateLV

ARMAII had the advantage of having mutiplayer already built into the game so modding it for DayZ was much easier than trying to mod Skyrim for Multiplayer

Very true. I personally don't think it would be possible with Skyrim, but a similar game type with a multiplayer component would be extremely engaging. Hell, I would settle for 2-player coop within a game world as beautiful as Skyrim. 

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  Z3R01

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6/02/12 5:15:15 PM#12
Originally posted by MMOExposed

gameplay wise, would would be interesting about a multiplayer Skyrim?

doesnt make sense....

 

Skyrim is Themepark RPG by design. So boring. Only thing interesting about Elder Scroll games on consoles has been the Open World feel to them. thats it.

 

the gameplay is a bore. Nothing about the gameplay is better or even close to that found in a standard themepark MMORPG.

 

sad but a reality. most of you that keep asking for a sandbox TES MMO, dont realize what you are asking for....

Whats so interesting about Arma 2? The Dayz mod dropped 50 people on a large map, turned pvp perma death mode on and added in zombies. While you wouldnt do the zombie thing with Skyrim you can just increase the difficulty of the monsters.

Honestly you do nothing in Day Z but roam around and survive as long as you can. This can't be done in Skyrim to the same effect?

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  MMOExposed

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6/02/12 5:38:23 PM#13
Originally posted by Z3R01
Originally posted by MMOExposed

gameplay wise, would would be interesting about a multiplayer Skyrim?

doesnt make sense....

 

Skyrim is Themepark RPG by design. So boring. Only thing interesting about Elder Scroll games on consoles has been the Open World feel to them. thats it.

 

the gameplay is a bore. Nothing about the gameplay is better or even close to that found in a standard themepark MMORPG.

 

sad but a reality. most of you that keep asking for a sandbox TES MMO, dont realize what you are asking for....

Whats so interesting about Arma 2? The Dayz mod dropped 50 people on a large map, turned pvp perma death mode on and added in zombies. While you wouldnt do the zombie thing with Skyrim you can just increase the difficulty of the monsters.

Honestly you do nothing in Day Z but roam around and survive as long as you can. This can't be done in Skyrim to the same effect?

BECAUSE,,, its no longer Skyrim if you do all this. why not make a game built around that kind of gameplay. Because what you are asking for, is noting to do with TES games. So whats the point of using TES IP at all?

  Corehaven

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6/02/12 5:44:41 PM#14

Well they have that new Dawnguard expansion coming.  I'd think someone could probably make a great mod using that.  Alter it up a bit.  Seems they have flying vampires and all sorts of crazy stuff. 

 

Id be for hunting down vampire lairs added in the mod during the day with monsters guarding the vamps.  Meanwhile at night the sky is filled with bats, flying vamps, and all sorts of horror and you just try to survive.  Doing it with other people would probably be a blast. 

 

Would be nice to have the towns mostly uninhabited and desolate.  Giving a feel of desperation.  Sure you'd need some vendors and stuff maybe.  But Id take out people walking in the open and give the idea of a society under seige.  A sort of apocalyptic scenario to it all.  Throwing in a few werewolves here and there for good measure.  

 

Converting Skyrim to a horror centric game via a mode would take a ton of work, but sure would be interesting to play.

  DarkPony

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6/02/12 5:46:28 PM#15

Yes plx.

Or for Fallout NV.

 

 

  TruthXHurts

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6/02/12 5:54:00 PM#16

I'd like to see a "Land of teh Dead" server that has a large central hub with the sandbox elements fromthe life servers. Each faction could have it's own capital city. Then it wouldn't seem so pointless. imagine if there was a place you could trade yoru baked beans in safety, and buy bunkers or humvee with HMG. Would sure beat running around seeing how long you can not die.

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  GTwander

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6/02/12 5:54:05 PM#17
Originally posted by MMOExposed

Skyrim is Themepark RPG by design. So boring. Only thing interesting about Elder Scroll games on consoles has been the Open World feel to them. thats it.

the gameplay is a bore. Nothing about the gameplay is better or even close to that found in a standard themepark MMORPG.

I cannot believe you can say that in all in basically the same breath....

Skyrim is boring, but a standard themepark MMO isn't? I could argue all day about the combat alone, let alone presentation, world design, etc, etc.

Millions disagree with you.

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  MMOExposed

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6/02/12 6:24:48 PM#18
Originally posted by GTwander
Originally posted by MMOExposed

Skyrim is Themepark RPG by design. So boring. Only thing interesting about Elder Scroll games on consoles has been the Open World feel to them. thats it.

the gameplay is a bore. Nothing about the gameplay is better or even close to that found in a standard themepark MMORPG.

I cannot believe you can say that in all in basically the same breath....

Skyrim is boring, but a standard themepark MMO isn't? I could argue all day about the combat alone, let alone presentation, world design, etc, etc.

Millions disagree with you.

standard Themepark MMO has WAY MORE FEATURES THAN SKYRIM ALONE!!!!

 

you seem to ignore that.... Rift has more content than Skyrim themepark RPG gameplay. The World is big only on a singleplayer console game terms. Its nothing to be excited about once you play MMORPGs....

 

and the world feels empty at that.

 

explain to me, how Skyrim is anymore exciting gameplay wise than any crapfest MMO, or even any sandbox low pop MMO like Darkfall or MO?

it isnt. the gameplay is boring. Even Demon Soul has more fun gameplay. the quest are boring, just like traditional questing in a themepark MMO. And the Dungeons are a bore fest copy paste over and over. I seen better Dungeons in a Themepark MMO. and at least they have Multiplayer to keep things dynamic and entertaining. Skyrim does not!!!!

come on,,, show me something that Skyrim does better than a Themepark MMO!!!

  Uhwop

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6/02/12 6:31:41 PM#19
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by GTwander
Originally posted by MMOExposed

Skyrim is Themepark RPG by design. So boring. Only thing interesting about Elder Scroll games on consoles has been the Open World feel to them. thats it.

the gameplay is a bore. Nothing about the gameplay is better or even close to that found in a standard themepark MMORPG.

I cannot believe you can say that in all in basically the same breath....

Skyrim is boring, but a standard themepark MMO isn't? I could argue all day about the combat alone, let alone presentation, world design, etc, etc.

Millions disagree with you.

standard Themepark MMO has WAY MORE FEATURES THAN SKYRIM ALONE!!!!

 

you seem to ignore that.... Rift has more content than Skyrim themepark RPG gameplay. The World is big only on a singleplayer console game terms. Its nothing to be excited about once you play MMORPGs....

 

and the world feels empty at that.

 

explain to me, how Skyrim is anymore exciting gameplay wise than any crapfest MMO, or even any sandbox low pop MMO like Darkfall or MO?

it isnt. the gameplay is boring. Even Demon Soul has more fun gameplay. the quest are boring, just like traditional questing in a themepark MMO. And the Dungeons are a bore fest copy paste over and over. I seen better Dungeons in a Themepark MMO. and at least they have Multiplayer to keep things dynamic and entertaining. Skyrim does not!!!!

come on,,, show me something that Skyrim does better than a Themepark MMO!!!

 Because at no point am I required to achieve an objective laid out by the developer. 

Which is the only thing that seperates a themepark from a sandbox.  The lack of structured goals, otherwise known as an objective, that can't be ignored. 

But I can see from the tone of your post that the only reason you have this absurd idea of what a sandbox is is because you have some sort of issue with sandbox gameplay.   You're last sentence clearly shows that you would prefer to chase carots instead of growiing your own.

 

PS: someone is working on a multiplayer mod for Skyrim.  Just need someone to take it a little further and host it on servers that allowed for more then 3 or 4 people.

  MMOExposed

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6/02/12 6:34:58 PM#20
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by GTwander
Originally posted by MMOExposed

Skyrim is Themepark RPG by design. So boring. Only thing interesting about Elder Scroll games on consoles has been the Open World feel to them. thats it.

the gameplay is a bore. Nothing about the gameplay is better or even close to that found in a standard themepark MMORPG.

I cannot believe you can say that in all in basically the same breath....

Skyrim is boring, but a standard themepark MMO isn't? I could argue all day about the combat alone, let alone presentation, world design, etc, etc.

Millions disagree with you.

standard Themepark MMO has WAY MORE FEATURES THAN SKYRIM ALONE!!!!

 

you seem to ignore that.... Rift has more content than Skyrim themepark RPG gameplay. The World is big only on a singleplayer console game terms. Its nothing to be excited about once you play MMORPGs....

 

and the world feels empty at that.

 

explain to me, how Skyrim is anymore exciting gameplay wise than any crapfest MMO, or even any sandbox low pop MMO like Darkfall or MO?

it isnt. the gameplay is boring. Even Demon Soul has more fun gameplay. the quest are boring, just like traditional questing in a themepark MMO. And the Dungeons are a bore fest copy paste over and over. I seen better Dungeons in a Themepark MMO. and at least they have Multiplayer to keep things dynamic and entertaining. Skyrim does not!!!!

come on,,, show me something that Skyrim does better than a Themepark MMO!!!

 Because at no point am I required to achieve an objective laid out by the developer. 

Which is the only thing that seperates a themepark from a sandbox.  The lack of structured goals, otherwise known as an objective, that can't be ignored. 

But I can see from the tone of your post that the only reason you have this absurd idea of what a sandbox is is because you have some sort of issue with sandbox gameplay.   You're last sentence clearly shows that you would prefer to chase carots instead of growiing your own.

what? using that logic, all Themepark MMO are now Sandbox, because I can run off and do whatever I want to instead of endgame raiding 24/7....

 

HEY EVERYBODY RIFT AND GW2 ARE SANDBOX MMO!!! SPREAD THE WORD!!!!....

 

 

/end sarcasm

 

 

addressing that last part of your post.

sorry but Carrot on the Stick, is only in the head. You can have fun regardless. in Skyrim, you could say, getting stronger was your carrot on the stick. logic applies here. its alll in the head. I can play the way I want to. thats not what makes a game themepark or not.

Sandbox are known for player made content. Skyrim's only Sandbox element comes from the open PC version of the game's modding. thats it.... nothing gameplay wise about Skyrim is sandbox. its themepark.

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