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  superniceguy

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Joined: 2/17/07
Posts: 2228

NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

 
OP  6/01/12 11:17:31 AM#141
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by evilastro

Taken from an interview with the SoE CEO:

If the intellectual property of Galaxies was wholly owned by SOE, then the decision might have been moot because the game would likely continue to make money for a long time, even with TOR lurking. "That's the problem with licenses: they end," Smedley said. "We're going to continue to do some licensed work, but we're largely going to stick to original IP [going forward] because then we won't have this issue. We'll never have this problem with EverQuest."

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/111549-SOE-Bids-Fond-Farewell-to-Star-Wars-Galaxies

Basically they didnt think it was profitable to renew the license when competing with another Star Wars MMO.

That is just taking what Smedley says out of context and twists it

It still does not mean it was not profitable. It takes 2 to secure a licence, and it sounds like LA made it a pain for SOE, when he says he is largely going to stick to original IP [going forward]. If LA were easy going, he probably would have done more outside IP stuff.

SOE seemed to be well keen to continue with SWG, but LA had other ideals. Smedley himself said that LA called the shots with SWG, which is linked in a locked topic of mine on these forums.

This is what makes it show that it was profitable, from a respected level headed person, who is in the know of these things.. You n the other hand have a rep for just bashing SWG. Nothing on the internet can be believed but I take what Fishermage knows to be more accurate than what you think

Its not taking what he said out of context at all. He very clearly says "The game would have continued to be profitable IF we didnt have to pay the license".  There is no other way to read it.

Also I have a rep for bashing SWG? Thats laughable considering that I played the game for 5 years. What I am presenting to you is reality. You seem to live in some magical fantasy world where SWG was the most successful MMO ever and every corporation in the world is desperate to revive it due to its massive money making potential. You need to get a grip son. Its dead, go play on the servers that shall not be mentioned if you want to live in the past.

Also I love how someones post with no proof or backing whatsoever is proof that it was profitable and would continue to be profitable after paying the license. But because he agrees with what you want to believe that makes him respected and level headed. You really are delusional. 


He also promotes SWTOR here which is not what I want to hear. I have seen his posts on the Official SWG forums, and talking about merges or free transfers. I know him well. I know you well too

  User Deleted
6/01/12 11:18:13 AM#142
Originally posted by superniceguy
Yeah because the contract was up for renewal, and LA did not want to renew the contract. SWG shuts down DEc 15th, SWTOR releases 20th. If there was a time to shut it down then Dec 15th was it, but still does not mean it was not making money.

SWTOR was predicted to eclipse SWG in the making money dept. If they were right then shutting down SWG would have been the time to turn it off, and these threads would not exist.

These threads exist because crazy people like to believe in conspiracy theories rather than dealing with reality.

  superniceguy

Elite Member

Joined: 2/17/07
Posts: 2228

NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

 
OP  6/01/12 11:21:17 AM#143
Originally posted by ignore_me

This is the effect produced by killing this game. They martyred it. Because it's not a person it has the possibility (however improbable and impractical) of coming back in some form, so for those who were forced out and have no game to go to, it feels more satisfying to just try and find neverland.

I am not going for SWG 2 as chances are uit will just turn into a generic piece of crap like SWTOR.

SWG is already written, and requires no development cost, it just needa agreeance by someone to officially host it.

Why bother with another game, when it will get shut down anyway.

SWG deserves the chance to be F2P.

  superniceguy

Elite Member

Joined: 2/17/07
Posts: 2228

NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

 
OP  6/01/12 11:22:42 AM#144
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by superniceguy
Yeah because the contract was up for renewal, and LA did not want to renew the contract. SWG shuts down DEc 15th, SWTOR releases 20th. If there was a time to shut it down then Dec 15th was it, but still does not mean it was not making money.

SWTOR was predicted to eclipse SWG in the making money dept. If they were right then shutting down SWG would have been the time to turn it off, and these threads would not exist.

These threads exist because crazy people like to believe in conspiracy theories rather than dealing with reality.

What like you? All my posts are based off people who are reasonable about the situation and do not hate on SWG

People like you just fuel these threads into arguments and twist the facts to suit your own needs which makes them last longer

  User Deleted
6/01/12 11:24:20 AM#145
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by superniceguy
Yeah because the contract was up for renewal, and LA did not want to renew the contract. SWG shuts down DEc 15th, SWTOR releases 20th. If there was a time to shut it down then Dec 15th was it, but still does not mean it was not making money.

SWTOR was predicted to eclipse SWG in the making money dept. If they were right then shutting down SWG would have been the time to turn it off, and these threads would not exist.

These threads exist because crazy people like to believe in conspiracy theories rather than dealing with reality.

What like you?

Hahahahaha. What amazing comeback will be next?

  ignore_me

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/04/11
Posts: 2034

6/01/12 11:26:01 AM#146
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by ignore_me

This is the effect produced by killing this game. They martyred it. Because it's not a person it has the possibility (however improbable and impractical) of coming back in some form, so for those who were forced out and have no game to go to, it feels more satisfying to just try and find neverland.

I am not going for SWG 2 as chances are uit will just turn into a generic piece of crap like SWTOR.

SWG is already written, and requires no development cost, it just needa agreeance by someone to officially host it.

Why bother with another game, when it will get shut down anyway.

SWG deserves the chance to be F2P.

Well if you only want SWG Pre-CU FTP then you know that exists in the form that we cannot talk about.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  eddieg50

Hard Core Member

Joined: 6/22/05
Posts: 1468

6/01/12 11:28:00 AM#147

well if it does come back hopefully they clean up the lag and graphics

  superniceguy

Elite Member

Joined: 2/17/07
Posts: 2228

NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

 
OP  6/01/12 11:31:26 AM#148
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by ignore_me

This is the effect produced by killing this game. They martyred it. Because it's not a person it has the possibility (however improbable and impractical) of coming back in some form, so for those who were forced out and have no game to go to, it feels more satisfying to just try and find neverland.

I am not going for SWG 2 as chances are uit will just turn into a generic piece of crap like SWTOR.

SWG is already written, and requires no development cost, it just needa agreeance by someone to officially host it.

Why bother with another game, when it will get shut down anyway.

SWG deserves the chance to be F2P.

Well if you only want SWG Pre-CU FTP then you know that exists in the form that we cannot talk about.

No, the game that was shut down on 15th Dec 2011, with 8.5 years of characters and stuff done it. I am not starting from scratch in any other game, when LA can pull the plug whenevr they want. If it was dead when it shut down, then it would be a different matter, but the there was 4 full servers in June, 3 more than there was in April. The game had potential to live on. SWG did not die, it got murdered.

 

  ktanner3

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6/01/12 11:32:23 AM#149
Originally posted by superniceguy

 

He also said , "It was time to turn it off."  No one says something like that about a game that is making money.


Yeah because the contract was up for renewal, and LA did not want to renew the contract.

Where has LA said that they didn't want to renew the contract?

SWG shuts down DEc 15th, SWTOR releases 20th. If there was a time to shut it down then Dec 15th was it, but still does not mean it was not making money.

 No one in the world of business shuts down a project that is making money. You have provided nothing but ancedotal evidence to back up your claims.  Do you have any hard evidence eg: numbers,SOE and LA statements that specifically state the game was making a profit? And no, second hand "he said" "she said" from one of your favorite posters doesn't count.

SWTOR was predicted to eclipse SWG in the making money dept. If they were right then shutting down SWG would have been the time to turn it off, and these threads would not exist.

The SIMS Online was shut down years ago and yet that forum still exists here.  These threads will always exist because there will always be fans for every game. Doesn't mean that they represent a large majority of the gaming public.

 

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  User Deleted
6/01/12 11:35:05 AM#150
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by ignore_me

This is the effect produced by killing this game. They martyred it. Because it's not a person it has the possibility (however improbable and impractical) of coming back in some form, so for those who were forced out and have no game to go to, it feels more satisfying to just try and find neverland.

I am not going for SWG 2 as chances are uit will just turn into a generic piece of crap like SWTOR.

SWG is already written, and requires no development cost, it just needa agreeance by someone to officially host it.

Why bother with another game, when it will get shut down anyway.

SWG deserves the chance to be F2P.

Well if you only want SWG Pre-CU FTP then you know that exists in the form that we cannot talk about.

No, the game that was shut down on 15th Dec 2011, with 8.5 years of characters and stuff done it. I am not starting from scratch in any other game, when LA can pull the plug whenevr they want. If it was dead when it shut down, then it would be a different matter, but the there was 4 full servers in June, 3 more than there was in April. The game had potential to live on. SWG did not die, it got killed.

 

Uh the servers he is talking about is unlikely to get shut down by LA since they are how shall we say... not legal.

Blame whoever you want, but SWG isnt coming back in a legitimate way, regardless of SWTORs success or failure. 

  ignore_me

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Joined: 7/04/11
Posts: 2034

6/01/12 11:44:19 AM#151
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by ignore_me

This is the effect produced by killing this game. They martyred it. Because it's not a person it has the possibility (however improbable and impractical) of coming back in some form, so for those who were forced out and have no game to go to, it feels more satisfying to just try and find neverland.

I am not going for SWG 2 as chances are uit will just turn into a generic piece of crap like SWTOR.

SWG is already written, and requires no development cost, it just needa agreeance by someone to officially host it.

Why bother with another game, when it will get shut down anyway.

SWG deserves the chance to be F2P.

Well if you only want SWG Pre-CU FTP then you know that exists in the form that we cannot talk about.

No, the game that was shut down on 15th Dec 2011, with 8.5 years of characters and stuff done it. I am not starting from scratch in any other game, when LA can pull the plug whenevr they want. If it was dead when it shut down, then it would be a different matter, but the there was 4 full servers in June, 3 more than there was in April. The game had potential to live on. SWG did not die, it got murdered.

 

Ok well that's a different story. If you have played the (DELETED) any time recently then you can see that the game could not survive in today's world without a Vertical vector, graphics + physics updates, and a better combat system (The Queue is really boring, it takes way too long to kill even menial stuff. I like long kill times, but it's actually ridiculous and unengaging--NGE was better in this aspect).

Your stuff is gone bro, and all that it meant. They Death Star'd our achievements, time, and fun. I can't tell you to let it go, but as a sympathetic cohort I feel I should ask you to examine the probablility that you will get SWG back from SOE with the database intact from shutdown.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  superniceguy

Elite Member

Joined: 2/17/07
Posts: 2228

NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

 
OP  6/01/12 11:48:34 AM#152
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by superniceguy

 

He also said , "It was time to turn it off."  No one says something like that about a game that is making money.


Yeah because the contract was up for renewal, and LA did not want to renew the contract.

Where has LA said that they didn't want to renew the contract?

SWG shuts down DEc 15th, SWTOR releases 20th. If there was a time to shut it down then Dec 15th was it, but still does not mean it was not making money.

 No one in the world of business shuts down a project that is making money. You have provided nothing but ancedotal evidence to back up your claims.  Do you have any hard evidence eg: numbers,SOE and LA statements that specifically state the game was making a profit? And no, second hand "he said" "she said" from one of your favorite posters doesn't count.

SWTOR was predicted to eclipse SWG in the making money dept. If they were right then shutting down SWG would have been the time to turn it off, and these threads would not exist.

The SIMS Online was shut down years ago and yet that forum still exists here.  These threads will always exist because there will always be fans for every game. Doesn't mean that they represent a large majority of the gaming public.

 


Where has SOE said they were not making money?  That is where SOE said that LA did not want to renew the licence, and I have already explained.

SOE would have no choice to shut down the game if LA was not in agreeance. LA had SWTOR to fall back on.

There is no hard evidence, because the real facts will never be known, but what has been said by SOE makes more sense than what you say.

All my posts and reasoning are stated from people who do not hate SWG and have no bias. It is obvious you do not like SWG and will see the neagtive side to it, and for you try and make your point clear will always be a waste of time, and have seen it many times.

The SIMS online do not have many posts in their forums, unlike SWG.

I post in the SWTOR forums because the game is active, and is the only SW MMO to play atm, and I want a SW MMO to play. If SWTOR shuts down, before improving to my liking, I will not be posting against people who want it to come back, and nor I have I done with the SIMS online. You do here because SWG has MASS attraction.

  superniceguy

Elite Member

Joined: 2/17/07
Posts: 2228

NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

 
OP  6/01/12 11:56:39 AM#153
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by ignore_me

This is the effect produced by killing this game. They martyred it. Because it's not a person it has the possibility (however improbable and impractical) of coming back in some form, so for those who were forced out and have no game to go to, it feels more satisfying to just try and find neverland.

I am not going for SWG 2 as chances are uit will just turn into a generic piece of crap like SWTOR.

SWG is already written, and requires no development cost, it just needa agreeance by someone to officially host it.

Why bother with another game, when it will get shut down anyway.

SWG deserves the chance to be F2P.

Well if you only want SWG Pre-CU FTP then you know that exists in the form that we cannot talk about.

No, the game that was shut down on 15th Dec 2011, with 8.5 years of characters and stuff done it. I am not starting from scratch in any other game, when LA can pull the plug whenevr they want. If it was dead when it shut down, then it would be a different matter, but the there was 4 full servers in June, 3 more than there was in April. The game had potential to live on. SWG did not die, it got murdered.

 

Ok well that's a different story. If you have played the (DELETED) any time recently then you can see that the game could not survive in today's world without a Vertical vector, graphics + physics updates, and a better combat system (The Queue is really boring, it takes way too long to kill even menial stuff. I like long kill times, but it's actually ridiculous and unengaging--NGE was better in this aspect).

Your stuff is gone bro, and all that it meant. They Death Star'd our achievements, time, and fun. I can't tell you to let it go, but as a sympathetic cohort I feel I should ask you to examine the probablility that you will get SWG back from SOE with the database intact from shutdown.


I would think they would hold on to the databases for a while in case (as they held on to EU Credit Card details from 2007 which got hacked last year), but may lose unclaimed account perks. Vendors and harvestors would probably go poof, but other thjings would be OK.

When a couple of account closed by mistake on Sep 15th, SOE managed to restore the accounts and characters but lost all the stuff on the subscription details. It was like a new account, and /getvet were 0 days.

  ktanner3

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Posts: 4103

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6/01/12 12:18:41 PM#154
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by superniceguy

 

He also said , "It was time to turn it off."  No one says something like that about a game that is making money.


Yeah because the contract was up for renewal, and LA did not want to renew the contract.

Where has LA said that they didn't want to renew the contract?

SWG shuts down DEc 15th, SWTOR releases 20th. If there was a time to shut it down then Dec 15th was it, but still does not mean it was not making money.

 No one in the world of business shuts down a project that is making money. You have provided nothing but ancedotal evidence to back up your claims.  Do you have any hard evidence eg: numbers,SOE and LA statements that specifically state the game was making a profit? And no, second hand "he said" "she said" from one of your favorite posters doesn't count.

SWTOR was predicted to eclipse SWG in the making money dept. If they were right then shutting down SWG would have been the time to turn it off, and these threads would not exist.

The SIMS Online was shut down years ago and yet that forum still exists here.  These threads will always exist because there will always be fans for every game. Doesn't mean that they represent a large majority of the gaming public.

 


Where has SOE said they were not making money?  That is where SOE said that LA did not want to renew the licence, and I have already explained.

SOE would have no choice to shut down the game if LA was not in agreeance. LA had SWTOR to fall back on.

There is no hard evidence, because the real facts will never be known, but what has been said by SOE makes more sense than what you say.

All my posts and reasoning are stated from people who do not hate SWG and have no bias. It is obvious you do not like SWG and will see the neagtive side to it, and for you try and make your point clear will always be a waste of time, and have seen it many times.

The SIMS online do not have many posts in their forums, unlike SWG.

I post in the SWTOR forums because the game is active, and is the only SW MMO to play atm, and I want a SW MMO to play. If SWTOR shuts down, before improving to my liking, I will not be posting against people who want it to come back, and nor I have I done with the SIMS online. You do here because SWG has MASS attraction.

This is why most don't like to engage in conversation with you. When your argument fails you attack the poster.For your information(mis-information more like it) I enjoyed my time in the game. I didn't like what it became in late 2005 and I left. Just because I didn't like the NGE doesn't mean the facts I have presented are wrong. YOu can keep sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming la la la la, but it won't change anything.

You again fail to provide any links of any kind that support your argument. Me as well as others here have provided links that support our argument. We were also able to do it without attacking you personally.That's how real conversations work. Not everybody is going to agree with you and just because they don't see the world through your lens doesn't mean they have a hidden agenda of some kind. YOu called another poster here someone with a bias that hates the game and he was a SWG player for five years. If you don't like people who have a different viewpoint and you feel they are a waste of time, then don't respond to our posts. Just put us on ignore.

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  CasualMaker

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Joined: 3/10/06
Posts: 848

Spelling and grammar do matter.

I find your lack of real-life skills disturbing.

6/01/12 12:27:17 PM#155
Originally posted by GreenHell
Remember when LA released that statement saying they were going to keep both games going and then they changed their minds? If it had been a contractual issue they would have never released that. The contract between BW/EA and LA would have been finalized long before that statement was made.

Uh huh. And did anyone actually believe LA when they said that? I read it as " We don't want players wandering off to maybe find another game they like better. Just keep them playing the Star Wars IP until the new game is ready, and then we can cut loose this albatross."

  User Deleted
6/01/12 1:07:48 PM#156
Originally posted by CasualMaker
Originally posted by GreenHell
Remember when LA released that statement saying they were going to keep both games going and then they changed their minds? If it had been a contractual issue they would have never released that. The contract between BW/EA and LA would have been finalized long before that statement was made.

Uh huh. And did anyone actually believe LA when they said that? I read it as " We don't want players wandering off to maybe find another game they like better. Just keep them playing the Star Wars IP until the new game is ready, and then we can cut loose this albatross."

I sincerely doubt that LucasArts would even care if two companies had conflicting games with a Star Wars IP. Regardless of which one a customer buys they are still getting a cut, the only loser is the game publisher, not LucasArts.

If anything it would have suited LucasArts to have both games still running, but they dont give stuff away for free. SoE made the final call not to continue the game because it wasnt worth it to them to renew the license.

  superniceguy

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Joined: 2/17/07
Posts: 2228

NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

 
OP  6/01/12 1:19:17 PM#157
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by superniceguy
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by superniceguy

 

He also said , "It was time to turn it off."  No one says something like that about a game that is making money.


Yeah because the contract was up for renewal, and LA did not want to renew the contract.

Where has LA said that they didn't want to renew the contract?

SWG shuts down DEc 15th, SWTOR releases 20th. If there was a time to shut it down then Dec 15th was it, but still does not mean it was not making money.

 No one in the world of business shuts down a project that is making money. You have provided nothing but ancedotal evidence to back up your claims.  Do you have any hard evidence eg: numbers,SOE and LA statements that specifically state the game was making a profit? And no, second hand "he said" "she said" from one of your favorite posters doesn't count.

SWTOR was predicted to eclipse SWG in the making money dept. If they were right then shutting down SWG would have been the time to turn it off, and these threads would not exist.

The SIMS Online was shut down years ago and yet that forum still exists here.  These threads will always exist because there will always be fans for every game. Doesn't mean that they represent a large majority of the gaming public.

 


Where has SOE said they were not making money?  That is where SOE said that LA did not want to renew the licence, and I have already explained.

SOE would have no choice to shut down the game if LA was not in agreeance. LA had SWTOR to fall back on.

There is no hard evidence, because the real facts will never be known, but what has been said by SOE makes more sense than what you say.

All my posts and reasoning are stated from people who do not hate SWG and have no bias. It is obvious you do not like SWG and will see the neagtive side to it, and for you try and make your point clear will always be a waste of time, and have seen it many times.

The SIMS online do not have many posts in their forums, unlike SWG.

I post in the SWTOR forums because the game is active, and is the only SW MMO to play atm, and I want a SW MMO to play. If SWTOR shuts down, before improving to my liking, I will not be posting against people who want it to come back, and nor I have I done with the SIMS online. You do here because SWG has MASS attraction.

This is why most don't like to engage in conversation with you. When your argument fails you attack the poster.For your information(mis-information more like it) I enjoyed my time in the game. I didn't like what it became in late 2005 and I left. Just because I didn't like the NGE doesn't mean the facts I have presented are wrong. YOu can keep sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming la la la la, but it won't change anything.

You again fail to provide any links of any kind that support your argument. Me as well as others here have provided links that support our argument. We were also able to do it without attacking you personally.That's how real conversations work. Not everybody is going to agree with you and just because they don't see the world through your lens doesn't mean they have a hidden agenda of some kind. YOu called another poster here someone with a bias that hates the game and he was a SWG player for five years. If you don't like people who have a different viewpoint and you feel they are a waste of time, then don't respond to our posts. Just put us on ignore.


I am not attacking you, you have made it clear that you do not like SWG (at least the NGE) and have not played the game since 2007, and prefer SWTOR to SWG, and so you are not exactly fully clued up by all things SWG as a result.

I am the one being attacked. If anyone does not like what I say, I get called delusional, crazy, out of it etc etc, but when other people say it was profitable no one says anything or insulting. As a reult this is why discussion with me get out of hand, because I get attacked first.

Another fact that LA was more involved was that SWG had 6 months notice for closure, instead of 1-2 months. The Matrix SOE gave 2 months notice, and EQOA they gave 1 months notice. SOE gave 6 months for SWG as they were ordered to by LA. In all the 10 years I have played SOE games, they never give much notice for anything. This just contributes to the fact that SWG was profitable and needed to give the many people playing a longer heads up, and it was all part of the plan for SWTORs release. If it was not worth renewing the licence, and was all up to SOE, they would have only given the usual 1-2 months notice, and closed it in 2012 when the licence was acually ending.

If SOE/LA had any business sense at all, they would have waited to see if all the people that guadrupled SWGs population, would still be playing, in July, and then if they did not, and it just plummeted, then they could have made the announcement in August and still give plenty notice for closure in Dec 15th. The fact is, LA did not care whether all these people subbed or not, SWG was shutting down to make way for SWTOR.

 

  Lowcaian

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/01/11
Posts: 265

6/01/12 1:58:22 PM#158

You know I hate the "you are a tinfoil hat" argument. Why? Because it's being misused by kiddies. It has been hinted that EA wanted to make sure they were the sole publisher of a SW mmorpg so SWG had to go wether it was sustainable or not. That is business. Even if it's not absolutely proven to be true it is very plausible and thus no conspiracy theory. This things happen every day in business.

Tinfoil hat I would be if I claimed the Illuminati shut SWG down.

  ktanner3

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Posts: 4103

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6/01/12 2:12:52 PM#159
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by CasualMaker
Originally posted by GreenHell
Remember when LA released that statement saying they were going to keep both games going and then they changed their minds? If it had been a contractual issue they would have never released that. The contract between BW/EA and LA would have been finalized long before that statement was made.

Uh huh. And did anyone actually believe LA when they said that? I read it as " We don't want players wandering off to maybe find another game they like better. Just keep them playing the Star Wars IP until the new game is ready, and then we can cut loose this albatross."

I sincerely doubt that LucasArts would even care if two companies had conflicting games with a Star Wars IP. Regardless of which one a customer buys they are still getting a cut, the only loser is the game publisher, not LucasArts.

If anything it would have suited LucasArts to have both games still running, but they dont give stuff away for free. SoE made the final call not to continue the game because it wasnt worth it to them to renew the license.

 

This is another good point. Why would Lucasarts care about another Star Wars game competing with each other? That kind of thing happens all the time. How many Star Wars games have been in the market the last ten years? He didn't demand that SOE close down the Clone Wars game. Why not?

I highly doubt that Lucasarts said "Let's pull SWG because that will hurt TOR." If anything I would think that he wouldn't care about that because that is just one more company that has to pay a license fee to him. I'm sure we can all agree that Lucas is a greedy son of a gun who doesn't care what is done to his IP so long as he is getting paid. So why would he demand to cut a game  knowing that will make him lose revenue? 

Everything seems to point back to SOE. Seems to me it was a business decision based on the fact that it wasn't worth the cost of renewing the license. And since they are the only ones that have the actual numbers I'll take them at their word when they say that it was time to end the game.

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  ukforze

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/01/06
Posts: 367

6/01/12 2:26:51 PM#160
Originally posted by ktanner3

Everything seems to point back to SOE. Seems to me it was a business decision based on the fact that it wasn't worth the cost of renewing the license. And since they are the only ones that have the actual numbers I'll take them at their word when they say that it was time to end the game.

SOE did not destroy galaxies, lets make that clear right now, i am not fan of SOE whatsoever but

the fact is they made one of the most innvovative mmo's of all time (argue all you like) the fact is

it has one of the most hardcore followings & one of the oldest, they made a game that could of

been so much more... that aside it was LA that ruined the game with the push for the CU & NGE

as LA WANTED MORE SUBS LIKE WOW, PLAIN & SIMPLE, typical LA greed.

 

Why would SOE ruin their own game? they had a few hundred thousand players, which fell

almost overnight with the 'WOW' style CU/NGE changes to the game, you only have to look at

SW:TOR & it stinks of NGE/WOW similarities.

 

The funniest thing is SW:TOR subs started plummeting after the 1st month & kept on falling

even with their BEGGIN MAILS & FREE MOTNH OFFERS! ...it will last a fraction of the time

SWG lasted & will have zero hardcore followers...

 

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