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  Fadedbomb

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5/29/12 10:55:40 AM#41
Originally posted by MikeB
Originally posted by Mystais1

Problem is:

Hard enough getting into a server now.  A large influx of players will just make it take longer.  Not enough servers as it is.  I really wish they could do virtual servers or phasing/instancing like the  AAA mmorpgs do.

It's only in alpha state.  Perhaps someone should ask Rocket (dev) first.  Advertising Xsyon on here, with the resulting huge player influx and consequential lag issues, pretty much killed that game, first impression-wise.

 

The next update to DayZ is entirely focused on server stuff, including logins and stability as a top priority. I do think that convincing people that this is afterall a mod that is in Alpha is probably Rocket's most challenging task, but it seems most people are dealing with the state of the game just fine. I've got a couple friends that don't really have as high a tolerance for bugs and glitchiness as I do, but they're so addicted to the mod that they're just dealing with these things as they arise.

As for the 100+population servers those are completely unstable and not supported by Rocket thus do not exist yet. A LOT of server optimization needs to happen still.

 

Additionally, my clan just put up TWO 60man servers, and both filled up within minutes of going online for the first time. We have clan members constantly spamming enter to get into one of our two servers. Additionally, when Rocket puts in code to nuke enter-spamming we'll be forced to start kicking for member slots. :O

 

There's around 73 servers up right now always capped at 50-60 players rofl. xD

 

Prior to DayZ launching in Alpha Arma2 had a very very small population seeing as how it's a War Sim product :P.

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  spookydom

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5/29/12 10:57:34 AM#42
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by username509

While were at it we might as well at skyrim-online mod to MMORPG.com too.  It's basically a mod that turns Skyrim into an MMO. Skryim-Online.com

Maybe this site needs a new category of games, Mods to MMO's or something like that.

I voted yes, the site these days covers titles of interest to the general MMORPG community, I just hope we can draw the line at sports simulations. 

Bump for the mod section. Personaly I think a lot of the best gameing experiances are to be found on mods and it's surprising how many people are not aware of them.

 O.T For myself I voted yes.  Why not? Even if it's not an mmorpg it's still relevant to the type of game lot's of people on these boards have been looking for. I feel this mod is a step in the right direction and as such is worthy of discusion.

  Woopin

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5/29/12 11:03:57 AM#43
Originally posted by Fadedbomb
Originally posted by MikeB
Originally posted by Mystais1

Problem is:

Hard enough getting into a server now.  A large influx of players will just make it take longer.  Not enough servers as it is.  I really wish they could do virtual servers or phasing/instancing like the  AAA mmorpgs do.

It's only in alpha state.  Perhaps someone should ask Rocket (dev) first.  Advertising Xsyon on here, with the resulting huge player influx and consequential lag issues, pretty much killed that game, first impression-wise.

 

The next update to DayZ is entirely focused on server stuff, including logins and stability as a top priority. I do think that convincing people that this is afterall a mod that is in Alpha is probably Rocket's most challenging task, but it seems most people are dealing with the state of the game just fine. I've got a couple friends that don't really have as high a tolerance for bugs and glitchiness as I do, but they're so addicted to the mod that they're just dealing with these things as they arise.

As for the 100+population servers those are completely unstable and not supported by Rocket thus do not exist yet. A LOT of server optimization needs to happen still.

 

Additionally, my clan just put up TWO 60man servers, and both filled up within minutes of going online for the first time. We have clan members constantly spamming enter to get into one of our two servers. Additionally, when Rocket puts in code to nuke enter-spamming we'll be forced to start kicking for member slots. :O

 

There's around 73 servers up right now always capped at 50-60 players rofl. xD

 

Prior to DayZ launching in Alpha Arma2 had a very very small population seeing as how it's a War Sim product :P.

You get caught kicking for members your server gets black listed seen 5 servers get taken off so far because of this. There is some strict rules to follow and yes people do report them on the forums.

  Larsa

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5/29/12 12:12:59 PM#44

Well, there are probably a few hundred NWN1/2 mods that are more MMO and more RPG than DayZ. :) Not to talk about Skyrim mods or Mount & Blade. :)

But no big deal anyway, the staff here lists games

  • that meet the requirements of an MMORPG as stated in the FAQ
  • or games that are popular and probably bring a large number of page hits (aka Diablo 3).

I'm fine with that, I understand the reasons. Thus if you want to list popular mods for FPSs, go ahead.

The main problem with that policy is of course that the game list is a mess right now. And with every listed game that isn't even an MMO, not to speak that it isn't an RPG, the game list will only get worse.

 

I maintain this List of Sandbox MMORPGs. Please post or send PM for corrections and suggestions.

  Ontblod

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Hey ho, lets go!

5/29/12 4:48:10 PM#45
Originally posted by Z3R01

I hear that Arma 3 will have the DayZ mod included in the base game as a extra mode. I think I may wait for that.

 

OMG are you sure, is this confirmed anywhere? If thats the case then I wait, ARMA III is

not that far away anyway.

  MumboJumbo

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5/29/12 6:01:32 PM#46

I don't know about categorization, but it's DEFINTELY related interest. What seems to make this so interesting from a mmorpg perspective:

  1. Unscripted survival gameplay
  2. Immersive simulation of "world + zombies" eg The Road? which might be similar to Undead Labs project.
  3. Some interesting mechanics eg permadeath implementation, real OS map vs blank if you do not have one.
It rocks the mmorpg boat, in a good way. 
  AdamTM

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5/29/12 6:11:32 PM#47
Originally posted by Larsa

Well, there are probably a few hundred NWN1/2 mods that are more MMO and more RPG than DayZ. :) Not to talk about Skyrim mods or Mount & Blade. :)

But no big deal anyway, the staff here lists games

  • that meet the requirements of an MMORPG as stated in the FAQ
  • or games that are popular and probably bring a large number of page hits (aka Diablo 3).

I'm fine with that, I understand the reasons. Thus if you want to list popular mods for FPSs, go ahead.

The main problem with that policy is of course that the game list is a mess right now. And with every listed game that isn't even an MMO, not to speak that it isn't an RPG, the game list will only get worse.

 

This.

Yes its your website and you can put anything you want on here, but the game-list and categorization is already a mess and horribly unspecific about games.

Don't make the problem worse.

Why not make a completely separate section for the "almost MMO" games (or general interest games).

Else what does make this site any different from IGN and the likes?

 

Your distinguishing identity as a website and portal is at stake here, why blend yourself more and more with the rest of the "review-sites"?

  mr.neutron

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5/29/12 6:21:46 PM#48

Massive

Dayz: 200+ square kilometers of map which you can seamlessly roam, your character gets saved across all servers so you play on maps (instances) with max up to 50 people, but since you can change servers you can play with all dayz players

lol 5 vs 5 not massive at all

tor with 30+ characters on screen not playable - not massive at all

Multiplayer:  yes it is

Online: yes it is

Role Playing Game:

Beside people playing it as deathmatches I've seen by far the most roleplaying in this game (I did P&P, so I know what roleplaying means) than in any other so called mmo"rpg". This game practically forces roleplaying and is a true and pure sandbox.

Most important of all: Dayz brings to currently horribly stale and bland world of mmos features which most players desperately want from such kind of games. Making a lot of fuss around this game can only do good for us all.

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  Larsa

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5/29/12 7:35:28 PM#49

Well, per MMORPG.com's own rules it cannot get on the list. Maybe it's time to change the rules? :)

From the FAQ found at http://www.mmorpg.com/faq.cfm/showFaq/4/I-think-there-is-a-game-that-needs-to-be-added-to-your-list-How-do-I-submit-this.html

--- quote ---

  1. Make sure that the game isn't already on our list. We know that this sounds simple, but there are a lot of them and sometimes they get overlooked.
  2. The game should have the capability to support at least 500 congruent users on a single server. This is not a reflection of the game's current subscriber count, but rather reflects the capabilities of a game's technology.
  3. The game must include some form of common area where players can interact with one another inside of the persistent game world. This excludes lobby and chat room based interaction. Exceptions are made where logical (such as sports MMOs) that still fit within the spirit of what an MMO is.
  4. The game must make use of persistent characters. This means that you should be able to log in after logging out and find your character as advanced as you left them (or more).
  5. The game must contain some form of advancement.
--- end quote ---
 
Obviously DayZ doesn't meet the requirements. No big deal, many other games listed here don't meet the requirements too. :)
 
There is even an exception stated at the above link, but per the text that's limited to "visual representation rules".
 
[Edited to add a more constructive suggestion: keep the above rules for the game list (and remove all games from the list that don't meet the requirements) but make forums for all games that you feel your users would like, no matter whether the game is on the list or not.]

I maintain this List of Sandbox MMORPGs. Please post or send PM for corrections and suggestions.

  UOvet

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5/30/12 12:16:41 PM#50

Maybe DayZ will open peoples eyes up to what an actual sandbox MMO would be like and how amazing it could turn out. I mean, if you think about it DayZ is like a tiny taste of what a AAA Sandbox MMO would be like.

 

How many people do you think would buy DayZ the MMO tomorrow if they released it with current graphics except the world would be fleshed out and of course more people, etc? I'd bet a lot.

 

Add things like being able to build forts and structures and we may have something.

  Mardukk

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5/30/12 4:55:34 PM#51
Originally posted by AdamTM
Originally posted by Larsa

Well, there are probably a few hundred NWN1/2 mods that are more MMO and more RPG than DayZ. :) Not to talk about Skyrim mods or Mount & Blade. :)

But no big deal anyway, the staff here lists games

  • that meet the requirements of an MMORPG as stated in the FAQ
  • or games that are popular and probably bring a large number of page hits (aka Diablo 3).

I'm fine with that, I understand the reasons. Thus if you want to list popular mods for FPSs, go ahead.

The main problem with that policy is of course that the game list is a mess right now. And with every listed game that isn't even an MMO, not to speak that it isn't an RPG, the game list will only get worse.

 

This.

Yes its your website and you can put anything you want on here, but the game-list and categorization is already a mess and horribly unspecific about games.

Don't make the problem worse.

Why not make a completely separate section for the "almost MMO" games (or general interest games).

Else what does make this site any different from IGN and the likes?

 

Your distinguishing identity as a website and portal is at stake here, why blend yourself more and more with the rest of the "review-sites"?

You hit the nail on the head.

  Betaguy

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5/30/12 5:07:12 PM#52

Can I get a hellllllllll ya!

  MMOarQQ

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5/30/12 5:23:43 PM#53

Just put whatever you want on the site and stop patronizing people.  You've got D3 on here ffs, so it's open season at this point.

  AdamTM

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5/30/12 9:10:44 PM#54

So can we get a Minecraft on here too?

Because if DayZ is deserving of the MMORPG attention, Minecraft sure as hell is too.

Also notchs new game 0×10.

Or Miner Wars.

 

  User Deleted
5/30/12 9:13:23 PM#55


Originally posted by AdamTM
So can we get a Minecraft on here too?

Because if DayZ is deserving of the MMORPG attention, Minecraft sure as hell is too.

Also notchs new game 0×10.

Or Miner Wars.

 



I agree. Miner Wars needs some love on this site.

  Kilrane

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5/31/12 2:16:59 AM#56

I know I'm late to the game on this subject but I'm really glad you guys are expanding the horizons on this site.  I know there is a group of people here who only want MMORPG's listed, hence the name of the site. It's just good to see that the staff is adding games (or in this case a mod) that might fit the bill for good multiplayer fun.  I don't need MMO attached to my game as long as there is a thriving community to play against and along side with.

  Ichmen

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5/31/12 2:30:04 AM#57

i have posted this similar suggestion on the DayZ thread(s)

 

but if MMORPG is going to continue down this trend of "mod" mmos can we please get a sub catagory for it?? listing its a F2P when its a mod that requires you to buy 1+ other games to run it, does not make it F2P.. and is also false advertising. 

 

perhaps a MOD game catagory for game/mods like DayZ that require other programs to run it, similar to mods in minecraft require minecraft to use them. i have no problem with this and other products being reviewed/posted on the site. but i would like it to be clearly defined that the program while Free to download requires X game/program to acess it. 

granted people should research programs before commiting to them, i would rather not get excited for a program, and go to search it out only to find out i have to spend 100 bucks on some other game to use it.

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  User Deleted
5/31/12 2:59:41 AM#58

Dayz your dropped in  a OPEN zoneless huge world and give you right away from the start a feeling of mmo world.

On top of that it screams EXPLORING same asin mmo's.

It save your progress so you can jumpin where you left off.

But limited players 50 avarage in whole world 250 square KM map and no quests or build up character for starts or any armor, collecting stuff to survive is your main goal build little things also.

Game have to my surrpirse also Castles land inwards to explore awesome:)

Survial to extreme with permadeath.

Thats DAYZ but as mmo fan im love this game as if im playing a sandbox mmo only dont need to bother with lvls quests or stats/gear.

 

  Larsa

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5/31/12 5:30:35 AM#59
Originally posted by Kilrane

... It's just good to see that the staff is adding games (or in this case a mod) that might fit the bill for good multiplayer fun. ...

I like "good multiplayer fun" too although what I find "fun" someone else might find "boring".

Anyway, if this site would list any game or mod that provides "good multiplayer fun" to someone they're probably looking at adding another 1.000 to 1.500 games/mods to the list.

I maintain this List of Sandbox MMORPGs. Please post or send PM for corrections and suggestions.

  MikeB

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OP  5/31/12 3:49:25 PM#60

Good news folks! We've gone ahead and added DayZ to the list!

Michael "MikeB" Bitton
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