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General Discussion  » Is the setting too far fetched? (explain it to me)

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  aspekx

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5/25/12 2:46:22 PM#21
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by Thorbrand

Because that is the game setting we have been given!

We have to ask ourselves:  Why are we getting this setting and who is behind it all?......

LOL

 

it's funny cuz its True.

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  gestalt11

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5/25/12 3:05:28 PM#22

My understanding is the premise of the game is that things have gone wildly out of proportion recently for some reason.

 

Kingsmouth is much larger and more ominous than previous things.  In the templar beginning stuff they mention that things are getting so out of hand that they are showing up on the news.

I may be wrong but I think they also mention there are alot more people manifesting magic talents.

So is a game based around conspiracies somehwat far fetched.  Um yes of course. 

 

But they do explain why the current setting is different than the past.  So it is at least somewhat plausible that if things were an order of magnitude smaller these various conspriacies may be able to keep a lid on it.

  gestalt11

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5/25/12 3:07:52 PM#23
Originally posted by VowOfSilence
Originally posted by Sovrath

2, I don't understand this question. If a normal person can see and interact with these events would they not be able to be more successful if they had magic? Or were great with a pistol or knew how to use a katana?

Sure they're more powerfull - but why not send in the army as well? I mean, the apocalypse is about to hit, apparently. I don't understand what's the point of keeping it a secret at this point. Why not throw everything you got at it?

Everything you got at what?

Part of the game is figuring out what the deuce is going on.

  gestalt11

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5/25/12 3:09:02 PM#24
Originally posted by ShakyMo
It needs more pointy toothed gnomes with giant robots and giant cat men with blunderbusses, that would make it more realistic.

Are they cats or cows?  Or cow cats?

  Icewhite

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5/25/12 3:15:20 PM#25
Originally posted by VowOfSilence
Is that correct? Sounds incredibly far-fetched to me.

The question is, does it sound far-fetched:

a) because of moderate and possibly rational skepticism, or

b) an inability to suspend disbelief in the name of entertainment?

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  gestalt11

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5/25/12 3:33:02 PM#26
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by VowOfSilence
Is that correct? Sounds incredibly far-fetched to me.

The question is, does it sound far-fetched:

a) because of moderate and possibly rational skepticism, or

b) an inability to suspend disbelief in the name of entertainment?

or

c) you have been brain-washed by the illuminati and don't know it

  Myrdynn

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5/25/12 3:41:18 PM#27
Originally posted by VowOfSilence
Originally posted by Sovrath

2, I don't understand this question. If a normal person can see and interact with these events would they not be able to be more successful if they had magic? Or were great with a pistol or knew how to use a katana?

Sure they're more powerfull - but why not send in the army as well? I mean, the apocalypse is about to hit, apparently. I don't understand what's the point of keeping it a secret at this point. Why not throw everything you got at it?

because if you throw everything at it, you expose the event to the rest of the world, hence lose the thought of Secret World.  My theory is that Kingsmouth is under control, and used as a training grounds for new recruits

 

  Elikal

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5/25/12 4:14:20 PM#28
Originally posted by VowOfSilence

It seems that events like Kingsmouth happen in OUR world - right in front of everybody. These events have been happening for centuries, but nobody is aware of it, because the secret societies have kept it a secret.

Is that correct? Sounds incredibly far-fetched to me. Before playing the BWE, i though the secret world is actually sort of a  parallel dimension (like in Longest Journey, Dreamfall, or the anime Gantz). I liked that idea much more, makes more sense to me and sounds more mysterious.

 

What i don't understand is:

1) How the heck is it possible to keep all of that a secret for such a long time? And why even bother to keep it a secret?

2) Why are the player's "magic" abilites so important, if normal persons can see and interact with those events as well?

I am not sure what the ingame explanation is. I can assume various reasons though:

- It's a parallel world, so not really "ours"

- magic just recently returned or erupted, a bit like in ShadowRun-reality

- the powers that be are REALLY much better with media control and manipulation than we think! ;)

 

Personally I think it the 2nd is what I think is most likely, that the world just recently changed.

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  Sora2810

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5/25/12 4:35:02 PM#29
Originally posted by VowOfSilence

It seems that events like Kingsmouth happen in OUR world - right in front of everybody. These events have been happening for centuries, but nobody is aware of it, because the secret societies have kept it a secret.

Is that correct? Sounds incredibly far-fetched to me. Before playing the BWE, i though the secret world is actually sort of a  parallel dimension (like in Longest Journey, Dreamfall, or the anime Gantz). I liked that idea much more, makes more sense to me and sounds more mysterious.

 

What i don't understand is:

1) How the heck is it possible to keep all of that a secret for such a long time? And why even bother to keep it a secret?

2) Why are the player's "magic" abilites so important, if normal persons can see and interact with those events as well?

Kingsmouth is very odd.. The way the characters react to seeing zombies seems un-dramatic(?). I can assure you the rest of the gameplay is different. This may play like a parallel dimension, but I assume they think more along the matrix. Only the selected really know the truth.

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  VowOfSilence

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OP  5/25/12 4:51:24 PM#30
Originally posted by chelan

far-fetched just seems ... well it seems like too far-fetched a question to be asking about a videogame.

the only thing any kind of fiction needs to be 'believable' is internal consistency.

Don't get me wrong - i agree with that of course, especially with the internal consistency.

That's why i would be fine with the explanation that the secret world is a parallel dimension, and only people with special abilities are able to notice it or even cross over into that dimension. Can't argure with that, it's a fool-proof setup. It's the setup that Ragnar Tornquist used for his Longest Journey stories, so i kinda expected TSW to be the same.

But if that stuff happens in our world... Trying to keep that a secret (f.e. that "earth is hollow" stuff) would be like trying to keep people from figuring out that earth isn't flat. Well, it didn't work. That's why this setup isn't really convinving for me.

But who knows... the game might come up with more explanations later on. Or maybe I just a few thinga wrong.

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  JuJutsu

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5/25/12 5:17:32 PM#31
Originally posted by VowOfSilence

It seems that events like Kingsmouth happen in OUR world - right in front of everybody. These events have been happening for centuries, but nobody is aware of it, because the secret societies have kept it a secret.

Is that correct? Sounds incredibly far-fetched to me. Before playing the BWE, i though the secret world is actually sort of a  parallel dimension (like in Longest Journey, Dreamfall, or the anime Gantz). I liked that idea much more, makes more sense to me and sounds more mysterious.

 

What i don't understand is:

1) How the heck is it possible to keep all of that a secret for such a long time? And why even bother to keep it a secret?

2) Why are the player's "magic" abilites so important, if normal persons can see and interact with those events as well?

In a genre populated by orcs, elves, dwarves, dragons, sorcerers, you find the setting for TSW far-fetched. Really?

  aspekx

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5/25/12 6:19:37 PM#32
Originally posted by gestalt11
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by VowOfSilence
Is that correct? Sounds incredibly far-fetched to me.

The question is, does it sound far-fetched:

a) because of moderate and possibly rational skepticism, or

b) an inability to suspend disbelief in the name of entertainment?

or

c) you have been brain-washed by the illuminati and don't know it

all of the above.

that is, if you don't want a black van parked outside your house for the next week.

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One could be called finite, the other infinite.
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  gestalt11

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5/27/12 2:23:06 PM#33
Originally posted by JuJutsu
Originally posted by VowOfSilence

It seems that events like Kingsmouth happen in OUR world - right in front of everybody. These events have been happening for centuries, but nobody is aware of it, because the secret societies have kept it a secret.

Is that correct? Sounds incredibly far-fetched to me. Before playing the BWE, i though the secret world is actually sort of a  parallel dimension (like in Longest Journey, Dreamfall, or the anime Gantz). I liked that idea much more, makes more sense to me and sounds more mysterious.

 

What i don't understand is:

1) How the heck is it possible to keep all of that a secret for such a long time? And why even bother to keep it a secret?

2) Why are the player's "magic" abilites so important, if normal persons can see and interact with those events as well?

In a genre populated by orcs, elves, dwarves, dragons, sorcerers, you find the setting for TSW far-fetched. Really?


Well I guess the question should reall add in "Too far fetched to be set in the 'real' world".

 

I guess in the end the answer boils down to all the fiction written in the vein.  Things like HP Lovecraft, Dresden Files/urban fantasy,  Hellboy and others.

 

I think the major difference here is that in Kingsmouth we have a very large event, that has basically killed an entire large town/small city.  Its in military lockdown.  On the news.  Its a disaster and its known world wide by everybody.

 

In the fiction above while there are constantly incidents they either are in a very small town and only affect a few people or are in city and cloaked in the chaos that is part of a city and again do not directly affect the majority of people.  Usually this is explained by people's natural tendecy to want things to conform to normal explanations and lack of any obvious proof (usually this is the part where the conspriacy comes in).

 

Funcom is basically sort of assuming you are already familiar with this idea.  Kingsmouth is your introduction that all of this has been blown out of the water.  We have not only a disaster but a persistent disaster none of the major conspiracies have been able to deal with and the entire world is watching and knows about it.  Failure on a massive scale combined with other mysterious phenomenon.

The fact that the dominance of the last couple centuries of the "secret" has so spectacularly failed is meant to set the stage to imply that something truly earth shaking is happening.  Its against precedent.

  doho7744

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5/27/12 2:37:44 PM#34

Is it farfetched to believe that Umbrella corporation is testing a virus to bring dead soldiers back to life?  That the virus gets released due to corporate espionage and takes over Racoon City?  That Umbrella is prepared to nuke the city and claim it was a meltdown at the local nuclear power plant?

All entertainment media is farfetched.   Good always prevails (and wears white).  Bad guys get their come-uppance.  The loser will get the hot chick in the end.

  Lagoz

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5/27/12 4:37:22 PM#35
Originally posted by doho7744

Is it farfetched to believe that Umbrella corporation is testing a virus to bring dead soldiers back to life?  That the virus gets released due to corporate espionage and takes over Racoon City?  That Umbrella is prepared to nuke the city and claim it was a meltdown at the local nuclear power plant?

All entertainment media is farfetched.   Good always prevails (and wears white).  Bad guys get their come-uppance.  The loser will get the hot chick in the end.

Everything in TSW is taken from old mythologies so I don't find it farfetched at all.

Maybe vampires and werewolves don't exist nowdays, but maybe these did exist in the past.

Something like Star Wars is farfetched, modern setting with everything take from mythologies from the past is certainly not farfetched ;)

 

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  Cyberdeck7

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5/29/12 1:58:29 PM#36

I'd use the ongoing environmental crisis in the Gulf of Mexico as an example of events with widespread effects that no one speaks about- talk about a media lock down. People getting sick from globs of crap being washed ashore. Whole pods of dolphins washing ashore dead in Florida. 

You'd think there'd be at least US - wide outrage, but no... BP has nothing to do with it.

Or the birther movement, the anti-immunization movement - people believe whatever they're told to.

  Nethriil

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5/29/12 2:17:29 PM#37
Wow!!!!!! Are we seriously Even discussing this :) maybe op should Play the sims. I hear thats just like real life
  Soandsoso

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5/29/12 2:33:37 PM#38

If you believe you were created by (insert any god you believe in), then how do you know your god didn't create life elsewhere?

If you believe you were created by a fluke chance of random whatever coming together then how come that cannot happen anywhere else?

 

Also reminds me of a friend at work who said her boyfriend could play one of the dance games as a ninja, but he could get past the ninja was wearing pink. I responed, he could get into playing a dancing ninja but not a dancing ninja wearing pink? We all just laughed.

 

 

  User Deleted
5/29/12 2:37:04 PM#39

It's a matter of taste.  Logic and reason works for the world the story builds for itself.  Within the world of The Secret World, what doesn't makes sense is only another mystery yet to be solved.

 

edit- oh and one of the conversations say that Kingsmouth 'dropped off the grid and you have to go through Agartha to reach it.'

  VowOfSilence

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OP  6/18/12 3:52:59 PM#40

* 2 weeks later... *

 

BWE3 convinced me that the story is indeed too farfetched.

The Illuminati and their starting area took the cake. Everything felt so friggin random.

It feels like Ragnar didn't even try this time. He wrote a whole lot of character dialogue (monologue?) that is indeed pretty good and funny - but the actual plot is imo pretty incoherent, random, and slow. TSW certainly isn't on par with stuff like Longest Journey, Dreamfall, or Alan Wake...

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