Originally posted by Bigbadwlf
You have to look at the review in context. Both SW:TOR and Tera were rated both on one aspect of the game, which is the leveling portion. In that regard it makes sense that SW:TOR got a 8.5 and Tera got 7.7 as SW:TOR has a better grind to cap then Tera does.

That said I will not accept any score that only judges one portion of the game, 50+ hours or not. I could care less if the reviewer got to 60 in Tera and gave it a 4. The point is that he at least played the whole game and can give an accurate assessment.

MMORPG.com your job is to give fair an accurate reviews of games players want to play. You know darn well how MMOs work, there's a leveling game and a completely separate endgame portion. How can MMO players take your reviews seriously if you yourselves don't treat games like an MMO?

I only got to 42 so I can understand the reviewer not getting there. Also, most people have taken this review seriously since most agree with it and think it's pretty fair.

Obviously mmorpg.com haven't been paid like in SWTOR case.

Comparing TERA with RIFT and SWTOR. I cannot fathom how did it not get at least an 8.

Basically Tera = rift + better combat mechanic + BAM + politic system.

Reputation of mmorpg.com doing honest and unbiase review is going down the drain and the quality of video they put up for GW2 and such is dissapointing for a professional gaming website.

Originally posted by Sorrow

Originally posted by BillMurphy

Originally posted by bluemagi

But what really pissed me off about this game is calling it an "Asian Grinder". 

 But I didn't call it one. If you read that paragraph again, you'll see that I said it would be one without its other features and content. And no, the term's not racist either. I don't think I have to explain why.

In fact, you might want to read the review and realize that I LIKE the game you came in to defend before going into a blind rage post.

LOL you must not have played much of it, either that or you are buying into this BS about end game content that is coming eventually. AS the game sits now it is nothing but another  Asian grinder, counting on the fact that american gamers, correction american's in general have become total and complete morons.

These guys took a F2P asian grinder, 1 of a million just like it and convinced americans that don't know any better that it is different and innovative, thankfully however only a small amount of our overall population of idiots actually fell for this one.

But hey I'm not judging in fact I feel sorry for you, you are just one more victim of our governments slave class mentality agenda public education conditioning program. Sadly you may not even be the first generation, we now have 3 generations that have been educated to be non thinking, compliant, worker drones.

 

 

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Originally posted by BillMurphy

Originally posted by MMOGamer71

Wait didn't Mr. Murphy rate SWTOR 8.7? Pretty much makes all "official" reviews questionable IMO.

Actually that was Mike Bitton, not me. FYI. :)

 

So let me see if I have this right, Mr. Murphy.

If you give Tera a bad score... fanboys bash you?

If you give Tera a good score... fanboys bash you?

If you don't give the game a score.... you are not doing your job?

If Mike Bitton gives some other game a good score... fanboys bash you?

If you give a score for a game 4 years ago that was good at the time but has gone down hill.... fanboys bash you?

Wow, Brother.... all I need to know is if you were the 3rd shooter on the grassy knoll!!!

################ So Im a troll for sticking up for the OP... and this guy Is not a troll... RIGHT?? Way to play it down the line MMORPG!! And Im out!!################

 

I couldn't touch this game since 2 weeks ago. Once the combat novelty wears off (and it does wear off, unless it's the first action game you play), there's nothing left to keep it different from every other generic mmos around.

Originally posted by channel84

Obviously mmorpg.com haven't been paid like in SWTOR case.

Comparing TERA with RIFT and SWTOR. I cannot fathom how did it not get at least an 8.

Basically Tera = rift + better combat mechanic + BAM + politic system.

Reputation of mmorpg.com doing honest and unbiase review is going down the drain and the quality of video they put up for GW2 and such is dissapointing for a professional gaming website.

Considering that IGN, which has be used the most for marketing even using it as a way to get member into prime membership, TERA gave it a 6.5, I think MikeB was pretty generous with the 7.5. I mean I was shocked when I started reading the review, I would have expected IGN to buckle on the marketing department and gave it a higher score.

But i suppose, fanboys are never going to be happy about anything, even a mediocre game with a forgetable combat system and yes I played the freaking game i even spent 70 bucks trying to get into KOBT and got bored at level 30, forced myself to play to 44 and quit, 4 weeks into my 8 week sub.

Originally posted by silvermember

Originally posted by channel84

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Considering that IGN, which has be used the most for marketing even using it as a way to get member into prime membership, TERA gave it a 6.5, I think MikeB was pretty generous with the 7.5. I mean I was shocked when I started reading the review, I would have expected IGN to buckle on the marketing department and gave it a higher score.

But i suppose, fanboys are never going to be happy about anything, even a mediocre game with a forgetable combat system and yes I played the freaking game i even spent 70 bucks trying to get into KOBT and got bored at level 30, forced myself to play to 44 and quit, 4 weeks into my 8 week sub.

 

How is this game worst than any AAA mmo on the market right now? Even SWTOR with it's superior story quest is not superior to TERA if you review it in all aspect (gvg, politic, combat system) and the "boring" questing in Tera is way much better than aion and even rift imo, then later due to the more interesting plot twist and characterization in the main story quest. Combat is what most player spent their time doing in an mmo and TERA manage to revolutionize it. So for a gamers who have been playing a lot of mmo in the past, you'll definately appreciate the improvement more. So far on the market there isn't any MMO offering a more complete package than Tera to mmo gamer and i challenge you to compare any AAA mmo to it and state why it deserved this score other than it's korean.

I like how Eligium recently got a 6.5 score for innovation, beating out Tera's 6. Haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 

Originally posted by silvermember

Originally posted by channel84

Obviously mmorpg.com haven't been paid like in SWTOR case.

Comparing TERA with RIFT and SWTOR. I cannot fathom how did it not get at least an 8.

Basically Tera = rift + better combat mechanic + BAM + politic system.

Reputation of mmorpg.com doing honest and unbiase review is going down the drain and the quality of video they put up for GW2 and such is dissapointing for a professional gaming website.

Considering that IGN, which has be used the most for marketing even using it as a way to get member into prime membership, TERA gave it a 6.5, I think MikeB was pretty generous with the 7.5. I mean I was shocked when I started reading the review, I would have expected IGN to buckle on the marketing department and gave it a higher score.

But i suppose, fanboys are never going to be happy about anything, even a mediocre game with a forgetable combat system and yes I played the freaking game i even spent 70 bucks trying to get into KOBT and got bored at level 30, forced myself to play to 44 and quit, 4 weeks into my 8 week sub.

 

The korean version and  US version  are not the same game, therefore your arguement is invalid.

Nice work on the review. I don't agree with all of your points and think the score could have been a trifle higher, but , I do feel the review was both fair and thoughtful. I think many would appreciate seeing more reviews done this way going forward.

 If many parts of the game feel ripped from other games, how is that hardly surprising? The devs on this game stole the code for Lineage 3 from NCSoft, got caught at it, the judge said they stole it, but refused to give an injunction against them releasing it. Having gotten away with that, why wouldn't they simply steal large chunks of content from other games?

  If you don't think TERA is a bad game, why is it already 1/2 off at Amazon? At least Rift waited 3 months before falling that far.

I would say 7.7 is a bit high personally but not everyone has the same taste in games some things put people off that others love. As an all round score I would say maybe 7 dead. It is a good game don't get me wrong but there is just something lacking in the game maybe I will find this when I hit max level who knows.

An honest and pretty accurate review in my opinion. I would have rated it a bit lower myself. It is an average MMO at best. A few elements might be above average but the rest are average if not below average. I tried to play this with 3 of my friends and we all quit pretty quickly because of how boring the questing was. They quests were never challenging and always boring. We never came close to dying. We even tried skipping ahead and doing the BAM dungeons only but the game held us back (by not letting us and/or giving us unusable gear because our levels were too low). I played Lancer which was excruciatingly boring but even my friends who were dps and heals were bored as well. Storylines are not engaging/non-existant. Choosing a race is a comedic undertaking and not in a good way. The world is broken up into "compartments" that the game forces you to quest in. There was no sense of an open world or an ability to explore (at least in as far as we made it in the game). For some reason the mounts really bothered me. The same exact horse for EVERYBODY. If you are a 4 foot panda thing or a 10 foot golem your horses are exactly the same just perfectly sized to your body. At least you could spam spacebar to annoy yourself further. I don't play it anymore but I honestly enjoyed Vindictus  more than this game. I'm glad for those of you who are enjoying the game. I honestly really wanted to myself. Unfortunately it wasn't meant to be. I would have rated this game in the low 7's because other than the graphics (which are undeniably beautiful) and a DIFFERENT combat system (but not necessarilly better or fun) everything else is average or below average. 

(We/I only leveled into the 20s somewhere so I am biased in that regard. There wasn't enough to get me to keep playing beyond that.)  

7.7 seems about right just because of the combat, unfortunetly the rest of the game seems to be lacking anything that's different from your run-of-the-mill mmo. It's still a game with small zones and hand holding (really a themepark which isnt a bad thing i guess) with the combat being the only thing that stands out. Been playing for a bit and have a lvl 32 and i've had fun, but i can't help but notice how small the zones are and how closed off the zones are to eachother. I don't feel like im in a fictional worl, just a game where the main goal is to reach max level and never go back to the lowbie zones ever again. I wasn't expecting a sandbox, but i also wasn't expecting a game that had such small zones and little content other than leveling and an instance every now and then for the early levels.

I think Bill was playing a different game from the rest of us as to give TERA 7.7 seems a very high score for what is basically a bad game. IGN for example, usually a site famed for throwing soft balls at bad games, only rated it 6.5, and the quote that sticks in my mind about hte game is :

The story is uninspired and utterly bereft of characters actually worth caring about, and voicework ranges from mediocre to downright embarrassing.

That was my take on the game and I would have given it about 6/10 myself. This game is clearly quickly done mmo for the Korean PC Bang market where graphics count for more than actually having any solid RPG gameplay to it, and the game pays for itself by a full-blown cash shop for the players and time cards.

Game is a turd everyone...avoid! 

Originally posted by Lazarus71

Loved the graphics, loved the combat and loved the world. However after hitting 40 on my Sorc I just can't take the questing anymore. Never have I felt such dread at going to the next quest hub to start the same repetitive questing all over again. I will admit that It could just be that I am havoing a bad case of MMO burnout, but I just can't force myself to log in anymore.

Funny you mention this, because it's the exact same dread I feel when playing SWTOR.  I think these quest hub games, while fun at first, don't know when to ease it up a bit and keep the same pace.  Ends up being just a grind to level via this way, much like grinding mobs was the issue with MMOs pre WoW era.  This is why TSO and GW2 are evolving the quest hub grind by making it more organic, freeform and rewarding.  Plus scaling or lack of levels really helps a game that revolves around quests.  Tera, if it did this, would probably be pretty good.  But then..there isn't much else in the game to get excited about.  Like exploration, go explore in GW2 or TSW and then try exploring in Tera and you will see where it fails.

1st. I belive reviewer's an old mmo player with decent experience with the genre so the score in his eyes is a score of a "I seen it all long time ago" player,

2nd. If someone is new to the mmo gaming then he MIGHT like the game a little more,

3rd. If a player comes from grindy-games where he spent a lot of time and isn't tired of same stuff we see in Tera then he MIGHT like the game more,

This is why ppl do not agree with the reviewer. In my eyes (i play mmos since 1999) this game is nothing that i can enjoy in a long run since i am tired of all this stuff I was doing in many other games before and just COMBAT SYSTEM nor GRAPHICS cant save it. I played this game and tried all classes. Finally i decided to roll a popori archer. Lasted till lvl 33 and now i just dont want to play it anymore. I tried to ,some day ago, and just chatted on guild chat with guildies never leaving safe zone then logging off. This game is boring to me as THERES NOTHING NEW IN IT beside combat system ( graphics is meant to be better since we have better and better pc's). Bah.... this game is retail (even longer in Asia) and i still feel like playimg BETA. 

Like i said in a post on previous pages. Score is quite objective (if not even too high) for a player that is with the genre for a longer time.

PS. If GW2 fails to deliver all those changes they promise I think i'll leave the genre coz it became too "generic" to me to enjoy it.

Regards.

/EDIT minor errors :)

For the record, IGN gave SWTOR a 9, and only gave TERA a 6.5

Clearly SWTOR gives a better first impression for reviewers. Whether this is relevant to the longevity of either game as a MMO is another matter. But given the short time frame that reviewers have to work with they have to base it on the first few weeks of gameplay.

The TERA score given was moer than fair, and the point is that you should be reading what the reviewer actually said, not just jumping to an obscure number which means nothing without the text.

Here is the closing text of the IGN review and I couldnt agree more:

"Tera's an action-MMO that nails the “action” part and then manages a face-palm-inducing face-plant on all the other bits. Combat moves quickly and feels great, but dirt-dull quests, a generic, disjointed story, repetition, repetition, and repetition ensure that any fun you might stumble across is short-lived. Even grouping to take on colossal, world-roaming boss monsters – initially a thrill few other MMOs can match – eventually grows old due to a lack of variety. Between impressive graphics and flashy battles, Tera has mountains of style. Substance, however, is still sadly lacking."