I played a fair bit in the recent BWE, then during the Monday stress test.  In the interim, I was playing some Tera.  I found that I was defeated a couple of times early in the stess test.  It as like I had to re-learn how to play my Guardian in GW2.  Anyone else have a similar experience?

Yeah. I felt the same way with my Warrior when I decided to jump straight into sPvP right after logging in during the Stress Test. Of course, the lag I was having and changing my keybinds for some stuff didn't help improve the matter and I eventually decided to move on to WvW. By the end of the Stress Test I was having everything back under control, though. :)

I had the same issue and I haven't even played any other MMOs since the BWE. A lot easier to get back up to speed than to have gotten to that point on the learning curve originally, but it was challenging to try to hop right back into a level 20 Elementalist. Some knowledge and player skills stick with you, but you definitely need to refresh yourself on a good bit as well.

When I first got my Elementalist to level 20, I was surprised how much I had learned all along the way and I had a real sense that there was still quite a bit of a learning curve left to transverse until I approached a true level of adeptness. I think true mastery will take some time indeed, which is one thing I love about GW2!

Same thing happened to me as well, i got used to GW2 again in like 2 hours though, this also happened while playing Dota2 after Diablo3, i was simply pressing shift to attack, pressed 1234 instead of QWER,  :P

I keep trying to dodge in other games I play :/

Since Guild Wars 2 is not like a traditional MMO you need to rethink your strategy and how you play the game. I'm used to playing tanks in MMOs so I created a Guardian in Guild Wars 2, of course playing the Guardian felt completely different to any other tanks I've played before. I had to adjust my play style to the requirements of the game. After the tutorial I think I was already accustomed to it ;)

 I also try to dodge in other games I play... it's frustrating when I can't

The EXACT same thing happened to me, with a new Guardian during the stress test.  I came close to dying multiple times but it wasn't a difficulty issue.  It was the fact that going from Tera's combat to GW2 combat was like being  handcuffed and then told to run through jello.  It just felt so totally off after a couple of weeks of playing Tera.  After thinking about it,  I think it all came down to the Tab targeting in GW2 and the fact that when you hit something in Tera it FEELS like you are fucking some shit up.

I'm not saying Tera is a better game or anything, the combat is the only thing it's got going for it over GW2.  But I loved GW2 combat up until that point.  Kind of a pisser.

I am somewhat of a solo player in all mmorpgs. Playing solo has helped me learn one thing when things are going wrong. RUN!

There wasn't to much of a learning curve for me other than trying to remember to pay attention to what I was doing a bit more than other games. No tv on in the the background until I get further developed in an awesome new game!

Originally posted by Homitu

I keep trying to dodge in other games I play :/

Originally posted by seridan

 I also try to dodge in other games I play... it's frustrating when I can't

I know what you mean; in GW2 I'm going to have to rebind dodge to RClick, the way I have it in Tera...

Originally posted by Sybnal

The EXACT same thing happened to me, with a new Guardian during the stress test.  I came close to dying multiple times but it wasn't a difficulty issue.  It was the fact that going from Tera's combat to GW2 combat was like being  handcuffed and then told to run through jello.  It just felt so totally off after a couple of weeks of playing Tera.  After thinking about it,  I think it all came down to the Tab targeting in GW2 and the fact that when you hit something in Tera it FEELS like you are fucking some shit up.

I'm not saying Tera is a better game or anything, the combat is the only thing it's got going for it over GW2.  But I loved GW2 combat up until that point.  Kind of a pisser.

Ha!  Yeah, when I first logged into the stress test I wondered if there was something wrong with my computer, the character was moving so slowly.  I don't usually tab target in GW2 on a melee (unless I'm fighting downed), so I didn't notice that aspect you mentioned, and I was playing two-handed sword on Guardian, so it was my Tera warrior that felt like I was nickel and diming in comparison, but there was definitely a sense that GW2 movement was slow in comparison, which is funny because I can move while attacking in GW2 but am rooted during animations in Tera.

Originally posted by fiontar

I had the same issue and I haven't even played any other MMOs since the BWE. A lot easier to get back up to speed than to have gotten to that point on the learning curve originally, but it was challenging to try to hop right back into a level 20 Elementalist. Some knowledge and player skills stick with you, but you definitely need to refresh yourself on a good bit as well.

When I first got my Elementalist to level 20, I was surprised how much I had learned all along the way and I had a real sense that there was still quite a bit of a learning curve left to transverse until I approached a true level of adeptness. I think true mastery will take some time indeed, which is one thing I love about GW2!

I played Ele to 10 in the BWE, and there is definitely some learning curve required there.  My buds and I were doing an event in a swamp with a Corrupted Oakheart Champion that was a ton of fun.  I went into the fight using Scepter/Dagger, and was switching between Attunements as fast as I could to use Ring of Fire for combos, Air to blind and for the Scepter's first two attacks which do good damage, Earth for more blinding, when I tried to switch to water for the healing rain spell ... and, doh! that's a staff spell.

I think (at least some of the) other classes also have learning curves and what I consider surprising depth of play available.  One of my roommates was saying he's not sure how he feels about using the same 5 longbow skills from level 4 to 80.  I keep telling him, "There are other weapons available, and lots of choices.  He says, "That means I can't just be a longbow specialist or I'm gimping the character!"

Yes there is definately a learning curve in GW2, not to play so much, but to play well and effectively.

While playing I commented to my husband at least 5 times " thank God it's not another game designed for morons.. "

It's because of the way the game is set up, camera angles, style, etc.  It makes your brain want to pull off certain traditional, learned tactics from games that looked and played somewhat similar to GW2 over the past ten years, but the game is different and it just takes some getting used to.  The opposite is true too, at least for me - I keep finding myself trying to dodge in other MMOs between these betas.

Originally posted by Jimmydean

Originally posted by Sorrow

Yes there is definately a learning curve in GW2, not to play so much, but to play well and effectively.

While playing I commented to my husband at least 5 times " thank God it's not another game designed for morons.. "

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Did you feel insulted by her comment?  What game are you playing?

Originally posted by Eir_S

Originally posted by Jimmydean

Originally posted by Sorrow

Yes there is definately a learning curve in GW2, not to play so much, but to play well and effectively.

While playing I commented to my husband at least 5 times " thank God it's not another game designed for morons.. "

True, not like that other game designed for morons, where you run around in circles and bunny hop as much as possible. 

 

Oh wait, thats exactly the strategy for combat in GW2. 

Did you feel insulted by her comment?  What game are you playing?

No, I just don't like when people act like GW2 is so much better than any other game.  Because your quests are called "hearts" they are better than standard MMO quests? Because you run around in circles while spamming auto attack your combat is better than other MMOs? Give me a break.

Originally posted by Jimmydean

No, I just don't like when people act like GW2 is so much better than any other game.  Because your quests are called "hearts" they are better than standard MMO quests? Because you run around in circles while spamming auto attack your combat is better than other MMOs? Give me a break.

The fact that you limit the content available in GW2 to the "hearts" and that you think combat is limited to running around in circles shows how little you know about the game. I have no problem with negative opinions, as long as they rely on real facts, and not imaginary stuff created with the sole purpose of bashing the game or by someone who obviously didn't play the game much and knows little about it. This really sounds like a "WoW clone" player who didn't manage to adapt to the different gameplay and therefore only saw the tip of the iceberg.

Oh... and your post history pretty much gives you away, too.

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Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by Jimmydean

No, I just don't like when people act like GW2 is so much better than any other game.  Because your quests are called "hearts" they are better than standard MMO quests? Because you run around in circles while spamming auto attack your combat is better than other MMOs? Give me a break.

The fact that you limit the content available in GW2 to the "hearts" and that you think combat is limited to running around in circles shows how little you know about the game. I have no problem with negative opinions, as long as they rely on real facts, and not imaginary stuff created with the sole purpose of bashing the game or by someone who obviously didn't play the game much and knows little about it. This really sounds like a "WoW clone" player who didn't manage to adapt to the different gameplay and therefore only saw the tip of the iceberg.

I actually don't play WoW, or a WoW clone. I do play a game that is ACTUALLY different than wow / it's clones, rather than being the same exact thing while calling itself different. And I will be the first one to play GW2, because I liked guild wars. However, from my experience in the BWE and Stress, this game is no different than any other WoW clone except that it doesnt have a monthly fee. Which is a plus btw, and probably GW2's only saving grace.

I don't know on what part you are lying, but pretending GW2 is a WoW clone is definitely a lie.

Either you never played a WoW clone, or you didn't play GW2, or (as your post history seems to confirm) you're on a negative post spree about this game. But somewhere, you don't tell the truth and distort it to fit your agenda.

Or you are just so bad at the game that the only way you found to fight is to run to hearts and run in circles. You're gonna have to find something better to convince us you're not simply spewing hatred here, because those who participated in the beta week ends know that what you're saying is total nonsense.

I didn't want to say that, but it's true.  Most MMOs have been based off of WoW and as such, don't offer any new strategies.  GW2 does, and it's a little silly to say there is no strategy involved.  Try spamming auto attacks later in the game, you will probably be singled out and either get less rewards based on it (and consequently bore yourself to death) or be outright kicked from a dungeon group for not doing enough damage, and that's to say nothing of solo'ing since it can and WILL get you killed.  "Bunny hopping"?  I didn't see anyone doing that even in PVP, and I hardly think it's viable in PVE for that matter.

Maybe GW2 isn't better than other games, it's all opinion after all, but many of us here have played the game and trying to trivialize its mechanics is going to look desperate.

Originally posted by Jimmydean

I actually don't play WoW, or a WoW clone. I do play a game that is ACTUALLY different than wow / it's clones

Awesome, I'm glad you're having fun.  What miraculous game is this, maybe I'll try it.

Originally posted by Jimmydean

Originally posted by Eir_S

Originally posted by Jimmydean

I actually don't play WoW, or a WoW clone. I do play a game that is ACTUALLY different than wow / it's clones

Awesome, I'm glad you're having fun.  What miraculous game is this, maybe I'll try it.

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It's Tera isn't it.  Tera is no different than WoW except for combat.  Maybe you meant EVE.

Originally posted by Eir_S

Originally posted by Jimmydean

Originally posted by Eir_S

Originally posted by Jimmydean

I actually don't play WoW, or a WoW clone. I do play a game that is ACTUALLY different than wow / it's clones

Awesome, I'm glad you're having fun.  What miraculous game is this, maybe I'll try it.

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It's Tera isn't it.

Lol it's not actually. If that were the case then I wouldnt say its so different from WoW. The only thing TERA has on WoW is it's combat, BAMs, and Open World Dungeons. Questing is the same as WoW/ GW2.