I put my hopes in this game. 

I'm not a programmer but based on what we've seen of the hero engine, it's horrible.  It's hard to believe it could just be incompetence on the part of SWTOR devs, and if the hero engine was my product I'd be worried for the bad press.  

Obviously a lot of people that follow gaming passionately had a visceral response on learning of the hero engine's utilization in ESO.  

Originally posted by Terranah

I'm not a programmer but based on what we've seen of the hero engine, it's horrible.  It's hard to believe it could just be incompetence on the part of SWTOR devs, and if the hero engine was my product I'd be worried for the bad press.  

 

Obviously a lot of people that follow gaming passionately had a visceral response on learning of the hero engine's utilization in ESO.  

Lets see the first game to launch with the hero engine had terrible proformance and died in just over a month (Faxion) and the second has horrible proformance and, despite what the fans/developers say, seems to have an arterial subsriber bleed (Swtor). Dominus got cancelled, the studio saying they just coulden't make the game good enough for theri fans, who knows if the engine had anything to do with that.

So two strikes and a miss so far on an engine designed to allow people to quickly and easily make quality online games. Take a look at the hero engine site.

Originally posted by Ramanadjinn

for everyone's information, the developers of major titles have complete access to the source code for their engines. this means they could theoretically rewrite any and all parts of that engine. to blame the engine for any problems you have ever had with a game is, to put it frankly, ignorant.

This.

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Anyways, what Zenimax did with Skyrim was use the Gamebryo engine as a base, heavily modify enough so they can call it something else.  I imagine they are doing the same with the Hero engine. 

Originally posted by Worstluck

You think the OP is being paid to link a magazine article about a game using a specific enging?  

Yes, exactly and he admitted it.

A good friend of ours is involved in the ESO Project and just shared this link with me.

I was firmly in the camp of HeroEngine...er.....um..... BITTER BEER FACE! when I heard my friend was going to work for Zenimax and would be attached to ESO.

After learning that HeroEngine was only being used as a "whiteboard" I feel better.

What I am saying is that No HeroEngine = GOOD DEAL 

It's still a difference between No Hero Engine and a modified Engine.

Originally posted by Silverbarr

BTW to touch on what I wrote above, the video interviews with Paul Sage - lead on Ultima Online, show that they really are trying to make the best game they can - whether this occurs or not is yet to be seen ofcourse. :)

 

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 Paul Sage's contribution to UO?  Felluca, and classes.  He was a designer for UO.

And every company tries to make the best game possible, the key is that they try to make the best game possible, for the payerbase they're trying to attract.  Unfortunetly I feel that they're tying to make the best game possible, at the expence of a particullar group of people.

Originally posted by dronfwar

Originally posted by Worstluck

You think the OP is being paid to link a magazine article about a game using a specific enging?  

Yes, exactly and he admitted it.

A good friend of ours is involved in the ESO Project and just shared this link with me.

I was firmly in the camp of HeroEngine...er.....um..... BITTER BEER FACE! when I heard my friend was going to work for Zenimax and would be attached to ESO.

After learning that HeroEngine was only being used as a "whiteboard" I feel better.

What I am saying is that No HeroEngine = GOOD DEAL 

 

It's still a difference between No Hero Engine and a modified Engine.

 Not to mentiion that the article clearly states that the interview was done as a means of damage control.

ZeniOnline is paying attention to what people are saying, and people are saying all over the place they're not interested.  It's not just here.  They're saying it on every site talking about ESO, including Beths forums.  They're trying to shore up some of the negativety now.

Personally I used the HeroEngine and the amount of time they would of saved using it over their own or another would be a big cost savings, but if their own engine and system is capable of doing what the HeroEngine can do in terms of speed then they may very well have a good time frame on this one still, otherwise it will take much longer now.

I am not that Tech savvy.

After reading their Q & A, it seems they are using a modified Hero engine, right?  

Cos the 2007 graphics texture stills look like it is from Hero Engine. 

Originally posted by xmenty

I am not that Tech savvy.

After reading their Q & A, it seems they are using a modified Hero engine, right?  

Cos the 2007 graphics texture stills look like it is from Hero Engine. 

 Textures aren't created by the engine.  An artist actually sits down and uses a digital art suite like Coral PsP to paint the textures and then appy them to the modells that were created within the engine.

It's impossible to look at a texture and say what engine is being used. 

Originally posted by xmenty

I am not that Tech savvy.

After reading their Q & A, it seems they are using a modified Hero engine, right?  

Cos the 2007 graphics texture stills look like it is from Hero Engine. 

Ehh... no. Have you even read the article?

They only used it to prototype in. Nothing more.

They have written their own engine, specifically for this game.

ESO not using HeroEngine?  Now THIS is good news. Patiently waiting for ESO to launch

I haven't seen anything of the game yet, so I will wait with my judgement until I see and know something more. What we know so far does sound like I am suspicious, but I will wait for now what will be shown.

What engine they use will not change the fact that this game couse of it is named the elder scrolls will downgrade the Elder Scrolls worth as a game series.

Originally posted by Vidir

What engine they use will not change the fact that this game couse of it is named the elder scrolls will downgrade the Elder Scrolls worth as a game series.

LOL not really, im sure bethseda will release another classic and then we can read all the threads from the crybabies entitled "I wish they made (Insert New ES Title) a mmo or "Why isnt ESO like (Insert New ES Title)" and so on and so forth.

Originally posted by Silverbarr

This is great! I was feeling majorly apprehensive about the Hero Engine being used, granted the engine itself is good in development terms but it is antiquated in feel and general workings, now that this has been clarified I have to say that the game has a nice new appeal.

Also what a great idea to use the Hero Engine to view the art ingame and get a feel for the artistic direction of the game.

Hopefully the game features and workings will appeal even more once an increased amount of information is released - the screens sure look nice so far anyways - though the Copernicus screens released recently sure gave me a new lease on the "cartoon" art direction. (R.I.P. 38)

 

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 personally heroengien or not didnt bother me, its what they are going to do with the game that counts. Turns out nothing special.

Hope we see a ton of gameplay during E3.