I've been reading a lot of hate towards EA, but let's be honest.  EA gave Bioware the funds, and Bioware mismanaged their resources by focusing on voice actors and the storytelling elements, of swtor.

Some people will say "they just needed 6 more months to polish the game before release", but how long could EA wait?  They already gave them enough time and money.  My point is, Bioware has to take some blame in all of this.

Anyone want to offer more insight?

p.s. I'm not an expert at game development or running a video game business. :p

Umm they are the same? EA bought BioWare for the name... period.

EA is responsible for their part Bioware theirs.

The blame for what? People on a site more inclined towards sandbox games not liking it? As has been stated, bioware are just a department of EA anyway.

Originally posted by Kabaal

The blame for what? People on a site more inclined towards sandbox games not liking it? As has been stated, bioware are just a department of EA anyway.

I'm a sandbox fan and I liked the leveling process in TOR. BUt I would assume the blame he's talking about falls on the lack of end-game options avilable. Which is the games biggest problem.

Originally posted by Kabaal

The blame for what? People on a site more inclined towards sandbox games not liking it? As has been stated, bioware are just a department of EA anyway.

Perfect avatar.

For failing to "WOW" us.

Oh wait, they did, nm.

They're not really separate imo. Both are to blame as BW was bought out by EA. They never listened to testers about the concerns of not having mmo features of what a 2011-2012 game should have at launch.

In a sense, Bioware no longer exist.

Bioware sold out to EA, since when, they have been merged with other dev companies, and just allowed to keep the name.

The only reason they kept the Bioware name is simple really, to trade on it, based on previous successful titles.

Originally posted by Distopia

Originally posted by Kabaal

The blame for what? People on a site more inclined towards sandbox games not liking it? As has been stated, bioware are just a department of EA anyway.

I'm a sandbox fan and I liked the leveling process in TOR. BUt I would assume the blame he's talking about falls on the lack of end-game options avilable. Which is the games biggest problem.

His question was just a general "who's to blame?", kinda open ended and a bit pointless IMO. With such a general question it'll just be another one of those threads saying the same things that have been said for months now.

There is no more bioware, just like no more Mythic or Westwood. As soon as they make as much cash as they can off the BW name it will fade into the past. As it is now its just a brand on the box.

I predict they will put the BW stamp on every half assed game they can, make as much as they can, then forget about that brand and move on to another. They still have a few games left before the BW name is complete trash. Maybe DA:3 and another ME title, both of which will suck and be shadows of what they once were. But will sell millions, get raped in reviews because they suck, and then fade out.

Just my opinion. I personally wont be buying another BW game.

I've heard many times the EA left BW alone to develop the game.  Bioware created something that simply wasn't engaging for enough gamers.  The design and concept was all their call.  EA cutting their losses and running now, like the weasels they are, have nothing to do with how the game has performed.  That's ALL on Bioware's shoulders.  They failed to recognize the strengths and weaknesses of the medium/genre they were developing for (MMOs that is), and made a game that fit poorly into it.

As far as I'm concerned, Bioware started believing in their own infallibility and their arrogance did the rest.

Bioware failed to research what the demographic wanted and failed to develop a game that people wanted to play for months into years. So, yeah, this game had disaster on it's label from the second someone said "Let's copy WoW!" And now, EA is looking at BW's falure and is saying "EFF This!"

I'm not about to blame either one of them. Personally, I think the fault lies on the person posting below.

In the end run it really makes no difference. EA's reputation with consumers was already in the trash can and Bioware can now proudly join them for pursuing the almighty dollar at any cost.

There is no Bioware anymore. Only EA.

EA bought Bioware some time ago and it has been subsumed into the giant clusterfuck that is EA.

EA just use Bioware as a trading name since it has (had) a good reputation.

Since Bioware is now just a department of EA, the values and idealogies of Bioware are long gone, as are most of the original staff. 

I'd have to go BioWare. There is bad design throught.  From Ilum to itemization to load times and bad performance.

Both.  Someone for EA should have made sure that SWTOR released with at least as many features as Rift did.  A group finder was essential, but the arrogant devs thought they hurt the community.

Originally posted by stragen001

There is no Bioware anymore. Only EA.

EA bought Bioware some time ago and it has been subsumed into the giant clusterfuck that is EA.

EA just use Bioware as a trading name since it has (had) a good reputation.

Since Bioware is now just a department of EA, the values and idealogies of Bioware are long gone, as are most of the original staff. 

This is probably more true than you realize. I work for a software company that was aquired by a larger one. And yeah, that's pretty much how it goes.

I am sure that Blizzard is a name used outside of Activision, not inside.

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by stragen001

There is no Bioware anymore. Only EA.

EA bought Bioware some time ago and it has been subsumed into the giant clusterfuck that is EA.

EA just use Bioware as a trading name since it has (had) a good reputation.

Since Bioware is now just a department of EA, the values and idealogies of Bioware are long gone, as are most of the original staff. 

This is probably more true than you realize. I work for a software company that was aquired by a larger one. And yeah, that's pretty much how it goes.

I am sure that Blizzard is a name used outside of Activision, not inside.

Also, see my previous thread on the same subject:

Dont Hate Bioware, Hate EA

Originally posted by Kabaal

Originally posted by Distopia

Originally posted by Kabaal

The blame for what? People on a site more inclined towards sandbox games not liking it? As has been stated, bioware are just a department of EA anyway.

I'm a sandbox fan and I liked the leveling process in TOR. BUt I would assume the blame he's talking about falls on the lack of end-game options avilable. Which is the games biggest problem.

His question was just a general "who's to blame?", kinda open ended and a bit pointless IMO. With such a general question it'll just be another one of those threads saying the same things that have been said for months now.

Yep. Prepare for another round of "It's a singleplayer game", "EA sucks", "Bioware no longer exists", "They are arrogant", "They deserve to fail", "The game is dead", etc.etc.etc.